Advice from Parents of *Minority Students*

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I have to agree…Trump took office AFTER most apps were in for this year already…

It about Trump for once. More about the racists tools who pushed the SFFA lawsuit.

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Is this seen in the classroom too? Or just social life?

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Anonymous wrote:Unless she only wants to socialize with black people for whatever reason, I’d assume it would be much easier this year than in other years to fit in and be accepted by all now that everyone knows your kid earned their spot based on merit rather than their skin color.

No one intelligent enough to get into a top college cares about this. You don't go to a good college to spend your 4 years proving you are smart enough to get in. Much of these schools are filled with wealthy, subpar students who had the right connections or athletes with craters in their skulls and the minimum stats for admission. You get over merit when you quickly realize those who climb quickest are never the smartest in the room.

This has to be one of the most nonsensical piles of ignorance that I have seen on DCUM which is saying a lot given that DVM posters demonstrate incredible levels of ignorance everyday. Well done fool, well done.

Sure I have years of experience in higher education, but I’m sure you, random civilian, know so much.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this seen in the classroom too? Or just social life?

A lot of lab groups are segregated by race and gender

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Anonymous wrote:Actual black student at an LAC here! I’ll be quite honest OP I was super nervous about coming to my LAC as it wasn’t as diverse as I’m used to (from southern NOVA). I tried to join the black organizations on campus to make black friends and suprisingly it was hard to make friends. Many were cliquey and didn’t interact with new students unless they knew them beforehand. I tried to make friends at a majority white organization and got the same coldness. I just joined an organization my friend suggested and I’ve made a great friend group that I consider diverse: mixed race, Asian, Latinx, white, etc. We all care for each other very strongly. Although it was a new experience and tough to get used to the cliquiness and segregation (not only by race but class) I’m glad I let go of my biases and became friends with many different people. I have black friends, white, Asian, etc. Try not to assume people won’t like you because of race but try to find friends based on interests. Hope this helps OP! If your child still wants black friends join a Divine 9 organization. I’m unsure if Pomona has one but you can join chapters at other schools. Some black students have done that at my LAC. Pomona is great and they have the other Claremont colleges to make friends. <3

This is the only helpful post the entire day!

Thanks I tried to share my experience as other students did with me. It really helped quell my anxieties and be more comfortable coming to campus.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry that now they are not supposed to ask higher standards for Asians.

Asians just aren’t interesting; get over it.

Evidence from Harvard case says the opposite.

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Anonymous wrote:Actual black student at an LAC here! I’ll be quite honest OP I was super nervous about coming to my LAC as it wasn’t as diverse as I’m used to (from southern NOVA). I tried to join the black organizations on campus to make black friends and suprisingly it was hard to make friends. Many were cliquey and didn’t interact with new students unless they knew them beforehand. I tried to make friends at a majority white organization and got the same coldness. I just joined an organization my friend suggested and I’ve made a great friend group that I consider diverse: mixed race, Asian, Latinx, white, etc. We all care for each other very strongly. Although it was a new experience and tough to get used to the cliquiness and segregation (not only by race but class) I’m glad I let go of my biases and became friends with many different people. I have black friends, white, Asian, etc. Try not to assume people won’t like you because of race but try to find friends based on interests. Hope this helps OP! If your child still wants black friends join a Divine 9 organization. I’m unsure if Pomona has one but you can join chapters at other schools. Some black students have done that at my LAC. Pomona is great and they have the other Claremont colleges to make friends. <3

Why are you scared of non-black people?

I’m not. It was just surprising to me coming to an LAC that championed diversity and many friend groups were segregated by race, national origin, ethnic group, socioeconomic class, etc. As stated before, I’m from southern NOVA where it is very diverse. Everyone interacts with everyone. Although race relations were not perfect, it’s much different than what I experienced coming to this college. For many of the students who come from a different background a school like mine may be the most diversity they’ve seen. However, for some of us this wasn’t close to diverse or integrated from what we’re used to. I wanted to share my experience as a black student but my experience does not match every single black person at an LAC. It’s different for everyone. But, as someone who was nervous to make friends in a new place that’s hours away from your home, there are people who’d like to be friends with you and don’t care about little things and accept you for you. As long as you do the same for them!

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Why is this thread becoming an Asian-bashing thread?? It’s not about black, white, yellow, brown, striped. It’s about finding one’s people and community at an SLAC. My advice to OP- acknowledge that race is there but don’t have your kid go into her SLAC experience with negative assumptions. You may be pleasantly surprised. Have your kid put herself out there, be open to a mix of students, and be proactive about meeting people. (Most) Everyone struggles in different ways to find their community in college- the struggles just take on different forms. The struggles to fit in and belong aren’ t always about race.

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Anonymous wrote:Unless she only wants to socialize with black people for whatever reason, I’d assume it would be much easier this year than in other years to fit in and be accepted by all now that everyone knows your kid earned their spot based on merit rather than their skin color.

No one intelligent enough to get into a top college cares about this. You don't go to a good college to spend your 4 years proving you are smart enough to get in. Much of these schools are filled with wealthy, subpar students who had the right connections or athletes with craters in their skulls and the minimum stats for admission. You get over merit when you quickly realize those who climb quickest are never the smartest in the room.

This has to be one of the most nonsensical piles of ignorance that I have seen on DCUM which is saying a lot given that DVM posters demonstrate incredible levels of ignorance everyday. Well done fool, well done.

Sure I have years of experience in higher education, but I’m sure you, random civilian, know so much.

You have no idea if I am a ‘random civilian’ or not. Just not a clue. But, I do know that if you actually had “years of experience in higher education” that you wouldn’t be spouting the above. Your poor grammar skills provide a pretty good clue as what you actually are, and your open disdain for certain institutions reinforces it. Finally, your last sentence fully outs you as an Asian with a complex.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry that now they are not supposed to ask higher standards for Asians.

Asians just aren’t interesting; get over it.

Evidence from Harvard case says the opposite.

People always forget that Harvard won the discrimination case. It’s an inconvenient truth that they prefer to ignore.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread becoming an Asian-bashing thread?? It’s not about black, white, yellow, brown, striped. It’s about finding one’s people and community at an SLAC. My advice to OP- acknowledge that race is there but don’t have your kid go into her SLAC experience with negative assumptions. You may be pleasantly surprised. Have your kid put herself out there, be open to a mix of students, and be proactive about meeting people. (Most) Everyone struggles in different ways to find their community in college- the struggles just take on different forms. The struggles to fit in and belong aren’ t always about race.

All the positive thinking and happy thoughts and trying really really hard to be friendly, as you suggest, doesn't matter if other students take one look at a student and dismiss her value due to her color. So your advice to her to just make a good effort falls flat.

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I hate this whole entire thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I hate this whole entire thread.

Why?

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Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

...nothing about that is xenophobic. I'd stick with American students too if I were to go to college abroad.

Immigrants' kids are still Americans. Are you excluding them from your circle just because they are Asian immigrants' kids?

Oh my god you’re so dense. I’m specifically talking about Asian immigrant students, who are significant block of American higher ed

They aren’t a block.

Seriously, why are Americans so set on lumping more than half of the world’s population into one category?

Do you really think a Korean kid and a Sri Lankan kid see each other as members of some tribe together?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is a troll post

Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

...nothing about that is xenophobic. I'd stick with American students too if I were to go to college abroad.

Immigrants' kids are still Americans. Are you excluding them from your circle just because they are Asian immigrants' kids?

Oh my god you’re so dense. I’m specifically talking about Asian immigrant students, who are significant block of American higher ed

They aren’t a block.

Seriously, why are Americans so set on lumping more than half of the world’s population into one category?

Do you really think a Korean kid and a Sri Lankan kid see each other as members of some tribe together?

This isn’t unique to Asian people. That’s just how race works.