Advice from Parents of *Minority Students*

[Anonymous]

I'm Asian. I reject this weird poster with their claims of Asian hate everywhere. Of course my Asian kids would befriend your kid, OP.

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Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

UCLA appears to have the opposite effect: https://pacificties.org/toxic-asian-friend-groups-the-weaponization-of-the-minority-experience/

[Anonymous]

There is no reason to believe that people won't befriend your child OP: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4428968/

[Anonymous]

In general, people need to segregate less.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is a troll post

Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD is entering a top liberal arts college and has joined the class instagram page and group chat. It is bewilderingly white and asian compared to past classes, and even when she looks into the instagram pages of these students, their high school environments were clearly mostly white and/or asian. She is starting to regret her choice and is worried about fitting in. It's sad because this used to be one of the most diverse schools in the country, but it is clear politics has obliterated any chance of that returning.

I think most politically liberal college students are excited by a diverse academic environment and are upset by the racial acrimony that older generations have stirred up regarding college admissions.

People have a tendency to stick with others like them but I think that is pretty easy to overcome by being just a little bit friendlier to show that you're looking for friends.

When I look back at my shy, introverted college days, I realize now that it would have been so simple to be the "inviter" instead of the "waiting to be invited".

I think social media gives many misleading impressions. Certain geographic areas are way more into posting college results than others.

I think your daughter should be optimistic. There are some people who code switch with comfort and I think that is the right approach for a multicultural world. Sadly that behavior is considered a racially loaded burden in the US. But I have a job where I work with bilingual international people and sometimes it's funny how we each have more interest in the other person's culture. I'm going to their country on my vacation, and they are coming to mine for theirs. I'm watching C-dramas and they are excited about the Marvel universe. And I once bonded with a South American colleague who tried to talk sports with me. I admitted that I didn't care for American football and he admitted he didn't like soccer. That was a hilarious intercultural bonding moment, since sports talk is kind of a business small talk universal.

I hope your daughter has a great time at college!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no reason to believe that people won't befriend your child OP: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4428968/

Basketball, pop culture, there are a lot of things to share in life between Asian and Black. I don't understand the claim Asian and Black won't befriend each other. Not my life experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is a troll post

Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

UCLA appears to have the opposite effect: https://pacificties.org/toxic-asian-friend-groups-the-weaponization-of-the-minority-experience/

Greaty article. And the Republican party has taken advantage of this dynamic for votes from the Asian American community.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no reason to believe that people won't befriend your child OP: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4428968/

Basketball, pop culture, there are a lot of things to share in life between Asian and Black. I don't understand the claim Asian and Black won't befriend each other. Not my life experience.

The research article discusses it....right there.

[Anonymous]

I’m also a minority and attended a liberal arts college 30 years ago, when there were fewer minorities of any kind at most LAC’s. I recommend that your daughter find a couple campus organizations/activities in addition to the ones that are affinity group-based so she’s involved in the broader or wider campus culture.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is a troll post

Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is a troll post

Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

What? Op's child's college is over 21% asian: https://www.pomona.edu/news/2024/09/12-pomona-college-class-2028-profile . Amherst is 20% asian. Swarthmore at 17%. Asian Americans are only 7% of the US population. How could they not "attract many Asian students" while being nearly 3x the US population percentage.

+1, I also disagree that asian Americans don't think about the population of Asian students when deciding colleges. It was pretty important for DS to be in an environment where he could see his community.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You won't see much important from parents here. They're mostly white and love making fun of black students at any moment. I'd reach out to other parents in your community who are sympathetic. People here like inequality.

It might be that the times make the crazies and racists more vocal.

The people who disagree with them are contributing on other threads because confronting that behavior in anonymous settings doesn't fix the problem. In fact, it makes the problem worse because it creates a two-sided conversation that those crazies and racists want to have. I've seen it on threads where people are attacking DEI at my grad university. I will rebut it up to a point but that just gives them space to vomit up their talking points and makes the forum feel ruder and rougher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is a troll post

Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

...nothing about that is xenophobic. I'd stick with American students too if I were to go to college abroad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m also a minority and attended a liberal arts college 30 years ago, when there were fewer minorities of any kind at most LAC’s. I recommend that your daughter find a couple campus organizations/activities in addition to the ones that are affinity group-based so she’s involved in the broader or wider campus culture.

Do you think your experience would have been better with more students "of color" or are you normal and know that skin color doesn't matter?