William and Mary vs. Boston College vs. Case Western

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Boston College playing fast and loose with their admissions statistics?

Shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

There seems to be a rat race for prestige for the Boston schools, between BC, BU, Northeastern and Tufts, all trying to pretend they are more prestigious than they really are.

Very accurate.

[Anonymous]

In BC's defense, the article that cited accepted student stats is from March. Schools didn't generally used to make any statements on the incoming class until it actually showed up (August). Now they put out early releases and share information to try to influence those accepted to attend. The only information any school will have for a March/April statement will be for accepted because enrolled data is unknown.

[Anonymous]

BC is #37. It doesn't try to be the #1 or 2 Catholic school. It doesn't try to be the #1 or #2 best school in Boston. It does try to compete to be #1 or #2 in men's ice hockey (and this year was #3 or 4). It seems to stay in its lane, sticking to its early mission to educate immigrants and the poor (subsidized today by the full pays) and to have students care about and be in service of others. Whenever there's a DCUM faux competition and cry of fake prestige, it's not brought on by BC boosters, but rather others who really seem afraid that you might say it's better than ND or Vandy. It appeals to a pretty self-selecting group and they're happy with their choice. Fortunately others can choose differently.

[Anonymous]

Guess it’s the Catholic BU

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BC is #37. It doesn't try to be the #1 or 2 Catholic school. It doesn't try to be the #1 or #2 best school in Boston. It does try to compete to be #1 or #2 in men's ice hockey (and this year was #3 or 4). It seems to stay in its lane, sticking to its early mission to educate immigrants and the poor (subsidized today by the full pays) and to have students care about and be in service of others. Whenever there's a DCUM faux competition and cry of fake prestige, it's not brought on by BC boosters, but rather others who really seem afraid that you might say it's better than ND or Vandy. It appeals to a pretty self-selecting group and they're happy with their choice. Fortunately others can choose differently.

Agree. Many excellent points here. Nobody goes to BC thinking they are getting academics on par with MIT, or a first-year salary comparable to Wharton. If you want to isolate one characteristic, there will always be colleges that are superior.

But what BC students are getting are really really good characteristics across the board: beautiful campus, safe area, ACC sports, exciting big city minutes away, boundless internship options, very good academics, excellent alumni cohesion, very good name recognition.

So, much better campus and sports than Georgetown, MIT, & CMU. Many more urban options than ND, UVA, Michigan. Safer than Chicago & Penn. When all factors are considered, not the highest ceiling, but a very high floor.

[Anonymous]

^Nice try but those schools from Georgetown to Penn are so much better in academics and prestige than BC. Wake, Villanova , Santa Clara, and URichmond would be peers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^Nice try but those schools from Georgetown to Penn are so much better in academics and prestige than BC. Wake, Villanova , Santa Clara, and URichmond would be peers.

BC's peers are Villanova, Saint Mary's, Providence College, Santa Clara, etc. They are definitely a step ahead of DePaul, St. Peter's and Seton Hall.

No one considers it a peer of Notre Dame or Georgetown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^Nice try but those schools from Georgetown to Penn are so much better in academics and prestige than BC. Wake, Villanova , Santa Clara, and URichmond would be peers.

Penn grads are destroying the country.

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Anonymous wrote:BC is where I draw the line for full pay. Not worth it, and extremely limited merit.

CS has merit. W&M in-state. Apply to both. I think CS might end up being about same price and has better program, but I could be wrong - not sure about W&M's new program yet. But if a kid really likes W&Ms vibe, sure.

Sorry. CWRU not CS. Still getting my coffee on.

College Scorecard shows higher salaries for W&M CS grads than CWRU CS grads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BC is #37. It doesn't try to be the #1 or 2 Catholic school. It doesn't try to be the #1 or #2 best school in Boston. It does try to compete to be #1 or #2 in men's ice hockey (and this year was #3 or 4). It seems to stay in its lane, sticking to its early mission to educate immigrants and the poor (subsidized today by the full pays) and to have students care about and be in service of others. Whenever there's a DCUM faux competition and cry of fake prestige, it's not brought on by BC boosters, but rather others who really seem afraid that you might say it's better than ND or Vandy. It appeals to a pretty self-selecting group and they're happy with their choice. Fortunately others can choose differently.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boston College playing fast and loose with their admissions statistics?

Shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

There seems to be a rat race for prestige for the Boston schools, between BC, BU, Northeastern and Tufts, all trying to pretend they are more prestigious than they really are.

Very accurate.

I live in boston and agreed.

Nescacs are a superior brand to the second tier Boston schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BC is #37. It doesn't try to be the #1 or 2 Catholic school. It doesn't try to be the #1 or #2 best school in Boston. It does try to compete to be #1 or #2 in men's ice hockey (and this year was #3 or 4). It seems to stay in its lane, sticking to its early mission to educate immigrants and the poor (subsidized today by the full pays) and to have students care about and be in service of others. Whenever there's a DCUM faux competition and cry of fake prestige, it's not brought on by BC boosters, but rather others who really seem afraid that you might say it's better than ND or Vandy. It appeals to a pretty self-selecting group and they're happy with their choice. Fortunately others can choose differently.

BC is not really represented in public service in Boston/MA like Harvard and tufts and even northeastern are…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boston College playing fast and loose with their admissions statistics?

Shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

There seems to be a rat race for prestige for the Boston schools, between BC, BU, Northeastern and Tufts, all trying to pretend they are more prestigious than they really are.

Very accurate.

I live in boston and agreed.

Nescacs are a superior brand to the second tier Boston schools

Tufts is Nescas

[Anonymous]

I consistently hear positive things about W&M.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:W&M then Case then BC. W&M and Case have stronger academics and both command more respect and prestige. BC is nothing special and way overpriced.

BC is very special if you plan on staying in Boston. If you’re staying in the Virginia area maybe W&M might be better. Definitely better name recognition in the Virginia area.

Boston College is considered a Tier 1 school, categorized as a Carnegie R1 institution. William and Mary is a Tier 2 school.

If these things matter to you William and Mary admit twice as many students as BC does.

In Boston you will meet a much larger group of students from all over the world. Within a ten mile radius you have BU, Emerson, Suffolk, MIT, Harvard, Emmanuel, Tufts plus smaller schools.

William and Mary is more isolate. You miss out in the cultural events that come to Cambridge and Boston. Relevant speakers at all the colleges that you might like to go to.

I think it comes down to the lifestyle that best suits the student. Both schools are more than capable of giving you a top education.