William and Mary vs. Boston College vs. Case Western

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BC engages in sly, misleading actions...it claims the number of "admitted" students' stats but who cares about the stats of the admitted students? What were the stats of the enrolled students? They are a lot, lot, considerably weaker than admitted students. As someone pointed out the Common Data Set is there for all to see.

Plus BC takes such a large percentage of its class early decision. When the vast majority of students are admitted early decision that manipulates the admission and yield rates to give fake prestige.

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Anonymous wrote:W&M would be in-state. Either CS or Data Science major. Likely full pay at all. DS is amenable to all locations.

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary, hands down. Not even close.

First question is money. Do you have a ton? If so it changes the answer. If 90k a year is nothing to you either because it is saved already or you are rich or high income then BC is the answer hands down. On the other hand if the above is not accurate go instate to W&M. CWU would lose in either case unless your kid loved it and you can afford it.

Whoever said BC is a B+ school is nuts. Have you looked at stats?

only 28% bother to submit an SAT, my brother. They take 2/3rds of their class from early decision. They're not getting the best and brightest

Aww, this brother has trouble with fractions. For BC, 3/4 submitted test scores snd averaged over 1500.

You mean 28% a little over 1/4?

Facts. BC is ranked #37. 75% submitted test scores for the class of 2029. Average SAT was over 1500. Yes, it's expensive, especially compared to a state school. Case Western reports a COA at $92,130.

How would you even know about test scores for class of 29? That data hasn't yet been shared. The last CDS shared was for the class of 27, and that data showed 44% submitted test scores. 75% is an enormous number. Even Notre Dame is less than that.

Is your google broken?

Help me out then. If you have a link, share it. You can't because it doesn't exist.

literally came up in the first google search. you can do it!

It doesn't exist. You just proved it. Plus, no school anywhere has shared 2025-2026 CDS (which would be class of 29) yet.

haha you think only CDS has this data. so sad!

CDS would be the only legitimate source for this data. If you are getting it elsewhere, it is flawed. No way 75% submitted test scores. There is only one place you could have pulled that data and it is not from google but from part of your body I will not decline naming.

You're such an ugly deterrent for anyone coming here looking for helpful college advice. Please go back to reddit or wherever it is you hang out.

My information is actually accurate while yours seeks to mislead and confuse. People, please don't let college website numbers confuse you. If you want to know for sure, look at the common data set, which is data supplied by all institutions for the sake of accuracy and fair comparisons. The 75% number is a gross misrepresentation because they are using admitted students, not enrolled students. Enrolled students is the only numbers that matter.

Does BC say these numbers are for admitted students?

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary, hands down. Not even close.

First question is money. Do you have a ton? If so it changes the answer. If 90k a year is nothing to you either because it is saved already or you are rich or high income then BC is the answer hands down. On the other hand if the above is not accurate go instate to W&M. CWU would lose in either case unless your kid loved it and you can afford it.

Whoever said BC is a B+ school is nuts. Have you looked at stats?

only 28% bother to submit an SAT, my brother. They take 2/3rds of their class from early decision. They're not getting the best and brightest

Aww, this brother has trouble with fractions. For BC, 3/4 submitted test scores snd averaged over 1500.

You mean 28% a little over 1/4?

Facts. BC is ranked #37. 75% submitted test scores for the class of 2029. Average SAT was over 1500. Yes, it's expensive, especially compared to a state school. Case Western reports a COA at $92,130.

How would you even know about test scores for class of 29? That data hasn't yet been shared. The last CDS shared was for the class of 27, and that data showed 44% submitted test scores. 75% is an enormous number. Even Notre Dame is less than that.

Is your google broken?

Help me out then. If you have a link, share it. You can't because it doesn't exist.

literally came up in the first google search. you can do it!

It doesn't exist. You just proved it. Plus, no school anywhere has shared 2025-2026 CDS (which would be class of 29) yet.

haha you think only CDS has this data. so sad!

CDS would be the only legitimate source for this data. If you are getting it elsewhere, it is flawed. No way 75% submitted test scores. There is only one place you could have pulled that data and it is not from google but from part of your body I will not decline naming.

You're such an ugly deterrent for anyone coming here looking for helpful college advice. Please go back to reddit or wherever it is you hang out.

My information is actually accurate while yours seeks to mislead and confuse. People, please don't let college website numbers confuse you. If you want to know for sure, look at the common data set, which is data supplied by all institutions for the sake of accuracy and fair comparisons. The 75% number is a gross misrepresentation because they are using admitted students, not enrolled students. Enrolled students is the only numbers that matter.

Does BC say these numbers are for admitted students?

This is where BC manipulates just like its ED. Right from the horse's mouth: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/bc-news/articles/2025/spring/boston-college-admits-undergraduate-class-of-2029.html#:~:text=Academically%2C%2095%20percent%20of%20the,the%20University's%20test%20optional%20policy.

"Academically, 95 percent of the admitted students rank within the top 10 percent of their graduating classes and their SAT/ACT test scores average 1503 and 34, respectively. A total of 74 percent submitted standardized scores, despite the University’s test optional policy."

Then you look at the Common Data Set and realize that only 28% of enrolled freshmen submitted an SAT score.
2023-2024 common data set
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/cds/CDS_2023-2024-Final.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary, hands down. Not even close.

First question is money. Do you have a ton? If so it changes the answer. If 90k a year is nothing to you either because it is saved already or you are rich or high income then BC is the answer hands down. On the other hand if the above is not accurate go instate to W&M. CWU would lose in either case unless your kid loved it and you can afford it.

Whoever said BC is a B+ school is nuts. Have you looked at stats?

only 28% bother to submit an SAT, my brother. They take 2/3rds of their class from early decision. They're not getting the best and brightest

Aww, this brother has trouble with fractions. For BC, 3/4 submitted test scores snd averaged over 1500.

You mean 28% a little over 1/4?

Facts. BC is ranked #37. 75% submitted test scores for the class of 2029. Average SAT was over 1500. Yes, it's expensive, especially compared to a state school. Case Western reports a COA at $92,130.

How would you even know about test scores for class of 29? That data hasn't yet been shared. The last CDS shared was for the class of 27, and that data showed 44% submitted test scores. 75% is an enormous number. Even Notre Dame is less than that.

Is your google broken?

Help me out then. If you have a link, share it. You can't because it doesn't exist.

literally came up in the first google search. you can do it!

It doesn't exist. You just proved it. Plus, no school anywhere has shared 2025-2026 CDS (which would be class of 29) yet.

haha you think only CDS has this data. so sad!

CDS would be the only legitimate source for this data. If you are getting it elsewhere, it is flawed. No way 75% submitted test scores. There is only one place you could have pulled that data and it is not from google but from part of your body I will not decline naming.

You're such an ugly deterrent for anyone coming here looking for helpful college advice. Please go back to reddit or wherever it is you hang out.

My information is actually accurate while yours seeks to mislead and confuse. People, please don't let college website numbers confuse you. If you want to know for sure, look at the common data set, which is data supplied by all institutions for the sake of accuracy and fair comparisons. The 75% number is a gross misrepresentation because they are using admitted students, not enrolled students. Enrolled students is the only numbers that matter.

Does BC say these numbers are for admitted students?

This is where BC manipulates just like its ED. Right from the horse's mouth: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/bc-news/articles/2025/spring/boston-college-admits-undergraduate-class-of-2029.html#:~:text=Academically%2C%2095%20percent%20of%20the,the%20University's%20test%20optional%20policy.

"Academically, 95 percent of the admitted students rank within the top 10 percent of their graduating classes and their SAT/ACT test scores average 1503 and 34, respectively. A total of 74 percent submitted standardized scores, despite the University’s test optional policy."

Then you look at the Common Data Set and realize that only 28% of enrolled freshmen submitted an SAT score.
2023-2024 common data set
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/cds/CDS_2023-2024-Final.pdf

Are you saying the data they present is wrong?

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary, hands down. Not even close.

First question is money. Do you have a ton? If so it changes the answer. If 90k a year is nothing to you either because it is saved already or you are rich or high income then BC is the answer hands down. On the other hand if the above is not accurate go instate to W&M. CWU would lose in either case unless your kid loved it and you can afford it.

Whoever said BC is a B+ school is nuts. Have you looked at stats?

only 28% bother to submit an SAT, my brother. They take 2/3rds of their class from early decision. They're not getting the best and brightest

Aww, this brother has trouble with fractions. For BC, 3/4 submitted test scores snd averaged over 1500.

You mean 28% a little over 1/4?

Facts. BC is ranked #37. 75% submitted test scores for the class of 2029. Average SAT was over 1500. Yes, it's expensive, especially compared to a state school. Case Western reports a COA at $92,130.

How would you even know about test scores for class of 29? That data hasn't yet been shared. The last CDS shared was for the class of 27, and that data showed 44% submitted test scores. 75% is an enormous number. Even Notre Dame is less than that.

Is your google broken?

Help me out then. If you have a link, share it. You can't because it doesn't exist.

literally came up in the first google search. you can do it!

It doesn't exist. You just proved it. Plus, no school anywhere has shared 2025-2026 CDS (which would be class of 29) yet.

haha you think only CDS has this data. so sad!

CDS would be the only legitimate source for this data. If you are getting it elsewhere, it is flawed. No way 75% submitted test scores. There is only one place you could have pulled that data and it is not from google but from part of your body I will not decline naming.

You're such an ugly deterrent for anyone coming here looking for helpful college advice. Please go back to reddit or wherever it is you hang out.

My information is actually accurate while yours seeks to mislead and confuse. People, please don't let college website numbers confuse you. If you want to know for sure, look at the common data set, which is data supplied by all institutions for the sake of accuracy and fair comparisons. The 75% number is a gross misrepresentation because they are using admitted students, not enrolled students. Enrolled students is the only numbers that matter.

Does BC say these numbers are for admitted students?

This is where BC manipulates just like its ED. Right from the horse's mouth: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/bc-news/articles/2025/spring/boston-college-admits-undergraduate-class-of-2029.html#:~:text=Academically%2C%2095%20percent%20of%20the,the%20University's%20test%20optional%20policy.

"Academically, 95 percent of the admitted students rank within the top 10 percent of their graduating classes and their SAT/ACT test scores average 1503 and 34, respectively. A total of 74 percent submitted standardized scores, despite the University’s test optional policy."

Then you look at the Common Data Set and realize that only 28% of enrolled freshmen submitted an SAT score.
2023-2024 common data set
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/cds/CDS_2023-2024-Final.pdf

Are you saying the data they present is wrong?

DP, but it appears what they are saying is BC is sharing data that may be misleading because it is for admitted students, not enrolled students (students that were accepted by BC AND accepted BC). This is different than data for enrolled students, which is in the CDS and is the best source for apples-to-apples comparisons.

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary, hands down. Not even close.

First question is money. Do you have a ton? If so it changes the answer. If 90k a year is nothing to you either because it is saved already or you are rich or high income then BC is the answer hands down. On the other hand if the above is not accurate go instate to W&M. CWU would lose in either case unless your kid loved it and you can afford it.

Whoever said BC is a B+ school is nuts. Have you looked at stats?

only 28% bother to submit an SAT, my brother. They take 2/3rds of their class from early decision. They're not getting the best and brightest

Aww, this brother has trouble with fractions. For BC, 3/4 submitted test scores snd averaged over 1500.

You mean 28% a little over 1/4?

Facts. BC is ranked #37. 75% submitted test scores for the class of 2029. Average SAT was over 1500. Yes, it's expensive, especially compared to a state school. Case Western reports a COA at $92,130.

How would you even know about test scores for class of 29? That data hasn't yet been shared. The last CDS shared was for the class of 27, and that data showed 44% submitted test scores. 75% is an enormous number. Even Notre Dame is less than that.

Is your google broken?

Help me out then. If you have a link, share it. You can't because it doesn't exist.

literally came up in the first google search. you can do it!

It doesn't exist. You just proved it. Plus, no school anywhere has shared 2025-2026 CDS (which would be class of 29) yet.

haha you think only CDS has this data. so sad!

CDS would be the only legitimate source for this data. If you are getting it elsewhere, it is flawed. No way 75% submitted test scores. There is only one place you could have pulled that data and it is not from google but from part of your body I will not decline naming.

You're such an ugly deterrent for anyone coming here looking for helpful college advice. Please go back to reddit or wherever it is you hang out.

My information is actually accurate while yours seeks to mislead and confuse. People, please don't let college website numbers confuse you. If you want to know for sure, look at the common data set, which is data supplied by all institutions for the sake of accuracy and fair comparisons. The 75% number is a gross misrepresentation because they are using admitted students, not enrolled students. Enrolled students is the only numbers that matter.

Does BC say these numbers are for admitted students?

This is where BC manipulates just like its ED. Right from the horse's mouth: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/bc-news/articles/2025/spring/boston-college-admits-undergraduate-class-of-2029.html#:~:text=Academically%2C%2095%20percent%20of%20the,the%20University's%20test%20optional%20policy.

"Academically, 95 percent of the admitted students rank within the top 10 percent of their graduating classes and their SAT/ACT test scores average 1503 and 34, respectively. A total of 74 percent submitted standardized scores, despite the University’s test optional policy."

Then you look at the Common Data Set and realize that only 28% of enrolled freshmen submitted an SAT score.
2023-2024 common data set
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/cds/CDS_2023-2024-Final.pdf

Are you saying the data they present is wrong?

What ADMITTED STUDENTS have as far as SAT scores, class rank, etc. have is IRRELEVANT. JMU could have an admitted students range of 1530-1600 but only the bottom 10% enrolls. Same for BC, as is shown in their CDS.

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary, hands down. Not even close.

First question is money. Do you have a ton? If so it changes the answer. If 90k a year is nothing to you either because it is saved already or you are rich or high income then BC is the answer hands down. On the other hand if the above is not accurate go instate to W&M. CWU would lose in either case unless your kid loved it and you can afford it.

Whoever said BC is a B+ school is nuts. Have you looked at stats?

only 28% bother to submit an SAT, my brother. They take 2/3rds of their class from early decision. They're not getting the best and brightest

Aww, this brother has trouble with fractions. For BC, 3/4 submitted test scores snd averaged over 1500.

You mean 28% a little over 1/4?

Facts. BC is ranked #37. 75% submitted test scores for the class of 2029. Average SAT was over 1500. Yes, it's expensive, especially compared to a state school. Case Western reports a COA at $92,130.

How would you even know about test scores for class of 29? That data hasn't yet been shared. The last CDS shared was for the class of 27, and that data showed 44% submitted test scores. 75% is an enormous number. Even Notre Dame is less than that.

Is your google broken?

Help me out then. If you have a link, share it. You can't because it doesn't exist.

literally came up in the first google search. you can do it!

It doesn't exist. You just proved it. Plus, no school anywhere has shared 2025-2026 CDS (which would be class of 29) yet.

haha you think only CDS has this data. so sad!

CDS would be the only legitimate source for this data. If you are getting it elsewhere, it is flawed. No way 75% submitted test scores. There is only one place you could have pulled that data and it is not from google but from part of your body I will not decline naming.

You're such an ugly deterrent for anyone coming here looking for helpful college advice. Please go back to reddit or wherever it is you hang out.

My information is actually accurate while yours seeks to mislead and confuse. People, please don't let college website numbers confuse you. If you want to know for sure, look at the common data set, which is data supplied by all institutions for the sake of accuracy and fair comparisons. The 75% number is a gross misrepresentation because they are using admitted students, not enrolled students. Enrolled students is the only numbers that matter.

Does BC say these numbers are for admitted students?

This is where BC manipulates just like its ED. Right from the horse's mouth: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/bc-news/articles/2025/spring/boston-college-admits-undergraduate-class-of-2029.html#:~:text=Academically%2C%2095%20percent%20of%20the,the%20University's%20test%20optional%20policy.

"Academically, 95 percent of the admitted students rank within the top 10 percent of their graduating classes and their SAT/ACT test scores average 1503 and 34, respectively. A total of 74 percent submitted standardized scores, despite the University’s test optional policy."

Then you look at the Common Data Set and realize that only 28% of enrolled freshmen submitted an SAT score.
2023-2024 common data set
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/cds/CDS_2023-2024-Final.pdf

Reminds me of Virginia Tech saying they had XXX number of spots for XXX number of applicants completely ignoring the fact that they admit far more than there are spots for.

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary, hands down. Not even close.

First question is money. Do you have a ton? If so it changes the answer. If 90k a year is nothing to you either because it is saved already or you are rich or high income then BC is the answer hands down. On the other hand if the above is not accurate go instate to W&M. CWU would lose in either case unless your kid loved it and you can afford it.

Whoever said BC is a B+ school is nuts. Have you looked at stats?

only 28% bother to submit an SAT, my brother. They take 2/3rds of their class from early decision. They're not getting the best and brightest

Aww, this brother has trouble with fractions. For BC, 3/4 submitted test scores snd averaged over 1500.

You mean 28% a little over 1/4?

Facts. BC is ranked #37. 75% submitted test scores for the class of 2029. Average SAT was over 1500. Yes, it's expensive, especially compared to a state school. Case Western reports a COA at $92,130.

How would you even know about test scores for class of 29? That data hasn't yet been shared. The last CDS shared was for the class of 27, and that data showed 44% submitted test scores. 75% is an enormous number. Even Notre Dame is less than that.

Is your google broken?

Help me out then. If you have a link, share it. You can't because it doesn't exist.

literally came up in the first google search. you can do it!

It doesn't exist. You just proved it. Plus, no school anywhere has shared 2025-2026 CDS (which would be class of 29) yet.

haha you think only CDS has this data. so sad!

CDS would be the only legitimate source for this data. If you are getting it elsewhere, it is flawed. No way 75% submitted test scores. There is only one place you could have pulled that data and it is not from google but from part of your body I will not decline naming.

You're such an ugly deterrent for anyone coming here looking for helpful college advice. Please go back to reddit or wherever it is you hang out.

My information is actually accurate while yours seeks to mislead and confuse. People, please don't let college website numbers confuse you. If you want to know for sure, look at the common data set, which is data supplied by all institutions for the sake of accuracy and fair comparisons. The 75% number is a gross misrepresentation because they are using admitted students, not enrolled students. Enrolled students is the only numbers that matter.

Does BC say these numbers are for admitted students?

This is where BC manipulates just like its ED. Right from the horse's mouth: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/bc-news/articles/2025/spring/boston-college-admits-undergraduate-class-of-2029.html#:~:text=Academically%2C%2095%20percent%20of%20the,the%20University's%20test%20optional%20policy.

"Academically, 95 percent of the admitted students rank within the top 10 percent of their graduating classes and their SAT/ACT test scores average 1503 and 34, respectively. A total of 74 percent submitted standardized scores, despite the University’s test optional policy."

Then you look at the Common Data Set and realize that only 28% of enrolled freshmen submitted an SAT score.
2023-2024 common data set
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/cds/CDS_2023-2024-Final.pdf

Are you saying the data they present is wrong?

DP, but it appears what they are saying is BC is sharing data that may be misleading because it is for admitted students, not enrolled students (students that were accepted by BC AND accepted BC). This is different than data for enrolled students, which is in the CDS and is the best source for apples-to-apples comparisons.

Yes, I understand the difference between the data sets, thanks.

The school clearly presents the data as for admitted students. How is this misleading?

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary, hands down. Not even close.

First question is money. Do you have a ton? If so it changes the answer. If 90k a year is nothing to you either because it is saved already or you are rich or high income then BC is the answer hands down. On the other hand if the above is not accurate go instate to W&M. CWU would lose in either case unless your kid loved it and you can afford it.

Whoever said BC is a B+ school is nuts. Have you looked at stats?

only 28% bother to submit an SAT, my brother. They take 2/3rds of their class from early decision. They're not getting the best and brightest

Aww, this brother has trouble with fractions. For BC, 3/4 submitted test scores snd averaged over 1500.

You mean 28% a little over 1/4?

Facts. BC is ranked #37. 75% submitted test scores for the class of 2029. Average SAT was over 1500. Yes, it's expensive, especially compared to a state school. Case Western reports a COA at $92,130.

How would you even know about test scores for class of 29? That data hasn't yet been shared. The last CDS shared was for the class of 27, and that data showed 44% submitted test scores. 75% is an enormous number. Even Notre Dame is less than that.

Is your google broken?

Help me out then. If you have a link, share it. You can't because it doesn't exist.

literally came up in the first google search. you can do it!

It doesn't exist. You just proved it. Plus, no school anywhere has shared 2025-2026 CDS (which would be class of 29) yet.

haha you think only CDS has this data. so sad!

CDS would be the only legitimate source for this data. If you are getting it elsewhere, it is flawed. No way 75% submitted test scores. There is only one place you could have pulled that data and it is not from google but from part of your body I will not decline naming.

You're such an ugly deterrent for anyone coming here looking for helpful college advice. Please go back to reddit or wherever it is you hang out.

My information is actually accurate while yours seeks to mislead and confuse. People, please don't let college website numbers confuse you. If you want to know for sure, look at the common data set, which is data supplied by all institutions for the sake of accuracy and fair comparisons. The 75% number is a gross misrepresentation because they are using admitted students, not enrolled students. Enrolled students is the only numbers that matter.

Does BC say these numbers are for admitted students?

This is where BC manipulates just like its ED. Right from the horse's mouth: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/bc-news/articles/2025/spring/boston-college-admits-undergraduate-class-of-2029.html#:~:text=Academically%2C%2095%20percent%20of%20the,the%20University's%20test%20optional%20policy.

"Academically, 95 percent of the admitted students rank within the top 10 percent of their graduating classes and their SAT/ACT test scores average 1503 and 34, respectively. A total of 74 percent submitted standardized scores, despite the University’s test optional policy."

Then you look at the Common Data Set and realize that only 28% of enrolled freshmen submitted an SAT score.
2023-2024 common data set
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/cds/CDS_2023-2024-Final.pdf

Are you saying the data they present is wrong?

DP, but it appears what they are saying is BC is sharing data that may be misleading because it is for admitted students, not enrolled students (students that were accepted by BC AND accepted BC). This is different than data for enrolled students, which is in the CDS and is the best source for apples-to-apples comparisons.

Yes, I understand the difference between the data sets, thanks.

The school clearly presents the data as for admitted students. How is this misleading?

It's less misleading and more meaningless. Why would anyone bring this up? It's kind of like if they said "we want students with 1500+ SATs!!!!" Like....okay, I guess?

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary, hands down. Not even close.

First question is money. Do you have a ton? If so it changes the answer. If 90k a year is nothing to you either because it is saved already or you are rich or high income then BC is the answer hands down. On the other hand if the above is not accurate go instate to W&M. CWU would lose in either case unless your kid loved it and you can afford it.

Whoever said BC is a B+ school is nuts. Have you looked at stats?

only 28% bother to submit an SAT, my brother. They take 2/3rds of their class from early decision. They're not getting the best and brightest

Aww, this brother has trouble with fractions. For BC, 3/4 submitted test scores snd averaged over 1500.

You mean 28% a little over 1/4?

Facts. BC is ranked #37. 75% submitted test scores for the class of 2029. Average SAT was over 1500. Yes, it's expensive, especially compared to a state school. Case Western reports a COA at $92,130.

How would you even know about test scores for class of 29? That data hasn't yet been shared. The last CDS shared was for the class of 27, and that data showed 44% submitted test scores. 75% is an enormous number. Even Notre Dame is less than that.

Is your google broken?

Help me out then. If you have a link, share it. You can't because it doesn't exist.

literally came up in the first google search. you can do it!

It doesn't exist. You just proved it. Plus, no school anywhere has shared 2025-2026 CDS (which would be class of 29) yet.

haha you think only CDS has this data. so sad!

CDS would be the only legitimate source for this data. If you are getting it elsewhere, it is flawed. No way 75% submitted test scores. There is only one place you could have pulled that data and it is not from google but from part of your body I will not decline naming.

You're such an ugly deterrent for anyone coming here looking for helpful college advice. Please go back to reddit or wherever it is you hang out.

My information is actually accurate while yours seeks to mislead and confuse. People, please don't let college website numbers confuse you. If you want to know for sure, look at the common data set, which is data supplied by all institutions for the sake of accuracy and fair comparisons. The 75% number is a gross misrepresentation because they are using admitted students, not enrolled students. Enrolled students is the only numbers that matter.

Does BC say these numbers are for admitted students?

This is where BC manipulates just like its ED. Right from the horse's mouth: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/bc-news/articles/2025/spring/boston-college-admits-undergraduate-class-of-2029.html#:~:text=Academically%2C%2095%20percent%20of%20the,the%20University's%20test%20optional%20policy.

"Academically, 95 percent of the admitted students rank within the top 10 percent of their graduating classes and their SAT/ACT test scores average 1503 and 34, respectively. A total of 74 percent submitted standardized scores, despite the University’s test optional policy."

Then you look at the Common Data Set and realize that only 28% of enrolled freshmen submitted an SAT score.
2023-2024 common data set
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/cds/CDS_2023-2024-Final.pdf

Are you saying the data they present is wrong?

DP, but it appears what they are saying is BC is sharing data that may be misleading because it is for admitted students, not enrolled students (students that were accepted by BC AND accepted BC). This is different than data for enrolled students, which is in the CDS and is the best source for apples-to-apples comparisons.

Yes, I understand the difference between the data sets, thanks.

The school clearly presents the data as for admitted students. How is this misleading?

It's less misleading and more meaningless. Why would anyone bring this up? It's kind of like if they said "we want students with 1500+ SATs!!!!" Like....okay, I guess?

So it’s not “a gross misrepresentation”? The school isn’t manipulating the data?

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary, hands down. Not even close.

First question is money. Do you have a ton? If so it changes the answer. If 90k a year is nothing to you either because it is saved already or you are rich or high income then BC is the answer hands down. On the other hand if the above is not accurate go instate to W&M. CWU would lose in either case unless your kid loved it and you can afford it.

Whoever said BC is a B+ school is nuts. Have you looked at stats?

only 28% bother to submit an SAT, my brother. They take 2/3rds of their class from early decision. They're not getting the best and brightest

Aww, this brother has trouble with fractions. For BC, 3/4 submitted test scores snd averaged over 1500.

You mean 28% a little over 1/4?

Facts. BC is ranked #37. 75% submitted test scores for the class of 2029. Average SAT was over 1500. Yes, it's expensive, especially compared to a state school. Case Western reports a COA at $92,130.

How would you even know about test scores for class of 29? That data hasn't yet been shared. The last CDS shared was for the class of 27, and that data showed 44% submitted test scores. 75% is an enormous number. Even Notre Dame is less than that.

Is your google broken?

Help me out then. If you have a link, share it. You can't because it doesn't exist.

literally came up in the first google search. you can do it!

It doesn't exist. You just proved it. Plus, no school anywhere has shared 2025-2026 CDS (which would be class of 29) yet.

haha you think only CDS has this data. so sad!

CDS would be the only legitimate source for this data. If you are getting it elsewhere, it is flawed. No way 75% submitted test scores. There is only one place you could have pulled that data and it is not from google but from part of your body I will not decline naming.

You're such an ugly deterrent for anyone coming here looking for helpful college advice. Please go back to reddit or wherever it is you hang out.

My information is actually accurate while yours seeks to mislead and confuse. People, please don't let college website numbers confuse you. If you want to know for sure, look at the common data set, which is data supplied by all institutions for the sake of accuracy and fair comparisons. The 75% number is a gross misrepresentation because they are using admitted students, not enrolled students. Enrolled students is the only numbers that matter.

Does BC say these numbers are for admitted students?

This is where BC manipulates just like its ED. Right from the horse's mouth: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/bc-news/articles/2025/spring/boston-college-admits-undergraduate-class-of-2029.html#:~:text=Academically%2C%2095%20percent%20of%20the,the%20University's%20test%20optional%20policy.

"Academically, 95 percent of the admitted students rank within the top 10 percent of their graduating classes and their SAT/ACT test scores average 1503 and 34, respectively. A total of 74 percent submitted standardized scores, despite the University’s test optional policy."

Then you look at the Common Data Set and realize that only 28% of enrolled freshmen submitted an SAT score.
2023-2024 common data set
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/cds/CDS_2023-2024-Final.pdf

Are you saying the data they present is wrong?

DP, but it appears what they are saying is BC is sharing data that may be misleading because it is for admitted students, not enrolled students (students that were accepted by BC AND accepted BC). This is different than data for enrolled students, which is in the CDS and is the best source for apples-to-apples comparisons.

Yes, I understand the difference between the data sets, thanks.

The school clearly presents the data as for admitted students. How is this misleading?

It's less misleading and more meaningless. Why would anyone bring this up? It's kind of like if they said "we want students with 1500+ SATs!!!!" Like....okay, I guess?

So it’s not “a gross misrepresentation”? The school isn’t manipulating the data?

Actually, it is kind of misleading because I think, regardless of what is actually on the announcement, people will assume it reflects enrollees. Same thing with Virginia Tech saying the number of spots instead of those admitted. It isn't an outright lie but it's misleading because it's putting in a statistic people wouldn't expect in an exact context where people would expect another statistic. They aren't manipulating the data, per se, but they are manipulating readers who don't know better (in this case, readers who don't connect the dots and realize that data is meaningless BS.)

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary, hands down. Not even close.

First question is money. Do you have a ton? If so it changes the answer. If 90k a year is nothing to you either because it is saved already or you are rich or high income then BC is the answer hands down. On the other hand if the above is not accurate go instate to W&M. CWU would lose in either case unless your kid loved it and you can afford it.

Whoever said BC is a B+ school is nuts. Have you looked at stats?

only 28% bother to submit an SAT, my brother. They take 2/3rds of their class from early decision. They're not getting the best and brightest

Aww, this brother has trouble with fractions. For BC, 3/4 submitted test scores snd averaged over 1500.

You mean 28% a little over 1/4?

Facts. BC is ranked #37. 75% submitted test scores for the class of 2029. Average SAT was over 1500. Yes, it's expensive, especially compared to a state school. Case Western reports a COA at $92,130.

How would you even know about test scores for class of 29? That data hasn't yet been shared. The last CDS shared was for the class of 27, and that data showed 44% submitted test scores. 75% is an enormous number. Even Notre Dame is less than that.

Is your google broken?

Help me out then. If you have a link, share it. You can't because it doesn't exist.

literally came up in the first google search. you can do it!

It doesn't exist. You just proved it. Plus, no school anywhere has shared 2025-2026 CDS (which would be class of 29) yet.

haha you think only CDS has this data. so sad!

CDS would be the only legitimate source for this data. If you are getting it elsewhere, it is flawed. No way 75% submitted test scores. There is only one place you could have pulled that data and it is not from google but from part of your body I will not decline naming.

You're such an ugly deterrent for anyone coming here looking for helpful college advice. Please go back to reddit or wherever it is you hang out.

My information is actually accurate while yours seeks to mislead and confuse. People, please don't let college website numbers confuse you. If you want to know for sure, look at the common data set, which is data supplied by all institutions for the sake of accuracy and fair comparisons. The 75% number is a gross misrepresentation because they are using admitted students, not enrolled students. Enrolled students is the only numbers that matter.

Does BC say these numbers are for admitted students?

This is where BC manipulates just like its ED. Right from the horse's mouth: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/bc-news/articles/2025/spring/boston-college-admits-undergraduate-class-of-2029.html#:~:text=Academically%2C%2095%20percent%20of%20the,the%20University's%20test%20optional%20policy.

"Academically, 95 percent of the admitted students rank within the top 10 percent of their graduating classes and their SAT/ACT test scores average 1503 and 34, respectively. A total of 74 percent submitted standardized scores, despite the University’s test optional policy."

Then you look at the Common Data Set and realize that only 28% of enrolled freshmen submitted an SAT score.
2023-2024 common data set
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/cds/CDS_2023-2024-Final.pdf

Are you saying the data they present is wrong?

DP, but it appears what they are saying is BC is sharing data that may be misleading because it is for admitted students, not enrolled students (students that were accepted by BC AND accepted BC). This is different than data for enrolled students, which is in the CDS and is the best source for apples-to-apples comparisons.

Yes, I understand the difference between the data sets, thanks.

The school clearly presents the data as for admitted students. How is this misleading?

It's less misleading and more meaningless. Why would anyone bring this up? It's kind of like if they said "we want students with 1500+ SATs!!!!" Like....okay, I guess?

So it’s not “a gross misrepresentation”? The school isn’t manipulating the data?

Actually, it is kind of misleading because I think, regardless of what is actually on the announcement, people will assume it reflects enrollees. Same thing with Virginia Tech saying the number of spots instead of those admitted. It isn't an outright lie but it's misleading because it's putting in a statistic people wouldn't expect in an exact context where people would expect another statistic. They aren't manipulating the data, per se, but they are manipulating readers who don't know better (in this case, readers who don't connect the dots and realize that data is meaningless BS.)

It’s an internal PR. People who want uniform data will look to CSD. If you can’t tell the difference, that’s not a fault of the school.

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Anonymous wrote:William and Mary, hands down. Not even close.

First question is money. Do you have a ton? If so it changes the answer. If 90k a year is nothing to you either because it is saved already or you are rich or high income then BC is the answer hands down. On the other hand if the above is not accurate go instate to W&M. CWU would lose in either case unless your kid loved it and you can afford it.

Whoever said BC is a B+ school is nuts. Have you looked at stats?

only 28% bother to submit an SAT, my brother. They take 2/3rds of their class from early decision. They're not getting the best and brightest

Aww, this brother has trouble with fractions. For BC, 3/4 submitted test scores snd averaged over 1500.

You mean 28% a little over 1/4?

Facts. BC is ranked #37. 75% submitted test scores for the class of 2029. Average SAT was over 1500. Yes, it's expensive, especially compared to a state school. Case Western reports a COA at $92,130.

How would you even know about test scores for class of 29? That data hasn't yet been shared. The last CDS shared was for the class of 27, and that data showed 44% submitted test scores. 75% is an enormous number. Even Notre Dame is less than that.

Is your google broken?

Help me out then. If you have a link, share it. You can't because it doesn't exist.

literally came up in the first google search. you can do it!

It doesn't exist. You just proved it. Plus, no school anywhere has shared 2025-2026 CDS (which would be class of 29) yet.

haha you think only CDS has this data. so sad!

CDS would be the only legitimate source for this data. If you are getting it elsewhere, it is flawed. No way 75% submitted test scores. There is only one place you could have pulled that data and it is not from google but from part of your body I will not decline naming.

You're such an ugly deterrent for anyone coming here looking for helpful college advice. Please go back to reddit or wherever it is you hang out.

My information is actually accurate while yours seeks to mislead and confuse. People, please don't let college website numbers confuse you. If you want to know for sure, look at the common data set, which is data supplied by all institutions for the sake of accuracy and fair comparisons. The 75% number is a gross misrepresentation because they are using admitted students, not enrolled students. Enrolled students is the only numbers that matter.

Does BC say these numbers are for admitted students?

This is where BC manipulates just like its ED. Right from the horse's mouth: https://www.bc.edu/bc-web/sites/bc-news/articles/2025/spring/boston-college-admits-undergraduate-class-of-2029.html#:~:text=Academically%2C%2095%20percent%20of%20the,the%20University's%20test%20optional%20policy.

"Academically, 95 percent of the admitted students rank within the top 10 percent of their graduating classes and their SAT/ACT test scores average 1503 and 34, respectively. A total of 74 percent submitted standardized scores, despite the University’s test optional policy."

Then you look at the Common Data Set and realize that only 28% of enrolled freshmen submitted an SAT score.
2023-2024 common data set
https://www.bc.edu/content/dam/bc1/offices/irp/ir/cds/CDS_2023-2024-Final.pdf

Are you saying the data they present is wrong?

DP, but it appears what they are saying is BC is sharing data that may be misleading because it is for admitted students, not enrolled students (students that were accepted by BC AND accepted BC). This is different than data for enrolled students, which is in the CDS and is the best source for apples-to-apples comparisons.

Yes, I understand the difference between the data sets, thanks.

The school clearly presents the data as for admitted students. How is this misleading?

It's less misleading and more meaningless. Why would anyone bring this up? It's kind of like if they said "we want students with 1500+ SATs!!!!" Like....okay, I guess?

So it’s not “a gross misrepresentation”? The school isn’t manipulating the data?

It is a gross misrepresentation even though it is accurate because it is presented to confuse and mislead prospective students. Most high school students don't even think about the difference between data for enrolled vs. admitted students. Sharing such information on admitted students is, as others point out, meaningless. The only admitted student information that is useful is number admitted vs applied to get a admission rate and ultimately yield rate once students enroll. That's about the extent of it. Look how Notre Dame presents stats on their website...it focuses mainly on enrolled students. https://admissions.nd.edu/apply/