Why are many conservatives fixated on vaccine mandates?

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Anonymous wrote:I did not consider myself conservative until there were Covid vaccine mandates. Especially after Biden explicitly said during a tv interview that there wouldn’t be.

But this isn’t political for you at all. You are just deciding each thing on the merits, right?

I’m the PP and no I didn’t consider myself political at all before this. I still don’t like everything on the conservative side (I do support abortions until viability outside the womb) but I really hate someone telling me I need to inject something into my body and my kids’ bodies after they say that I won’t need to and we have proof that it doesn’t stop you getting the virus and it doesn’t stop you passing it on. It’s honestly insane and yes, quite obviously completely political.

I don’t believe you. Regardless, there was no nationwide vaccine mandate.

There were mandates for those of us who work for companies that do government projects. Everyone in our companies were required to get it, even if we weren’t working on those projects ourselves.

And you had the right to get a different job. If you chose to work for a company that had federal contracts, then they had to risk losing the work, or serving the terms of the contract. That isn't a mandate. No one tied you down and forced a needle in you.

If the goverment puts in the contract that Covid vaccines were required, that’s a mandate

A mandate for the people working for that contractor, that is not a mandate for everyone in the country.

Someone can find a different job, because personal responsibility, right?

I mean why would someone with that attitude want to suck on the teat of the government anyhow?

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Anonymous wrote:Because conservatives are rightly skeptical of vaccine efficacy and safety.

Can anyone argue that the expanded vaccine mandates forced on kids today have made them any healthier than the more minimal vaccine schedules used on older generations?

Are any older people rushing out to get the vaccines they missed out on?

You may win the award of dimmest person ever posting on DCUM. You clearly know no one, literally, no one who contracted polio and has some form of paralysis. Or infertility/sterility due to mumps. Or, god forbid, bleeding out from tuberculosis.

People died from diseases that are not covered by the "expanded vaccine mandates." Do you really put your children at this risk? How will you live with yourself if they end up dying from a preventable disease all because of some crap you heard on OAN?

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

I don’t feel the need to debate you on settled historical facts. I can also ask people alive at the time the vaccine was introduced. But you’ve revealed quite a bit about how misinformed certain people are.

I'll make a deal with you, how about you take your Polio vaccinated self to the westernmost parts of Pakistan and drink out of a bunch of stagnant pools of water. I'll keep my unvaccinated self here and drink clean tap water. We'll see who gets Polio first.

Just to confirm, you think the polio vaccine is a consoiracy. To do what, exactly? Please be detailed so that the entire world can see exactly what a Republican’s view of the world is.

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

Another dimwit here. My dad's cousin contracted polio and was in a wheelchair for the remainder of his life - grew up eating farm to table in a lovely country home, but nutrition and sanitation do NOTHING for polio.

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My body my choice. Unless you are a woman and then we get to decide for you.

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Anonymous wrote:Why does the Harris campaign still require the covid booster for employees when almost no other employer does, despite espousing "my body, my choice"?

You can choose not to work for Harris.

You can choose not to live in a state whose abortion policies you don't like.

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

And yet polio was eradicated by the spread of vaccines to other countries where the sanitation infrastructure severely lagged in modernization. Why do you think you know more than scientists that have made if their life's work eradicate polio? What makes you think that you know better?

For some odd reason 100 rounds of vaccination hasn't eradicated polio in Pakistan. Why do you think that is?
"Though the polio immunization campaign in the country started in 1974,[8] the efforts for eradication officially started in 1994.[9] The infection remains endemic despite over 100 rounds of vaccination being carried out in the past decade.[10] Pakistan had the world's highest number of polio cases in 2014.[11][12][13][14]"

No. Pakistan has a lot of people like you PP. They don’t believe in vaccinations.

The misconception of people about polio vaccine, insecurity within the country and poor health system are the reasons of failure of polio eradication campaigns in these regions. Awareness campaigns about polio for locals and development of proper health system will help in the eradication of polio.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28718581/#:~:text=The%20misconception%20of%20people%20about,in%20the%20eradication%20of%20polio.

Now imagine if instead of vaccinating millions of people for 50+ years, they just cleaned up the water supply.

Coincidently, Polio is going away as: "...country has increased the share of the population with access to an improved water source from 85% in 1990 to 92% in 2010,"

No, no, must be the vaccine though.

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

And yet polio was eradicated by the spread of vaccines to other countries where the sanitation infrastructure severely lagged in modernization. Why do you think you know more than scientists that have made if their life's work eradicate polio? What makes you think that you know better?

For some odd reason 100 rounds of vaccination hasn't eradicated polio in Pakistan. Why do you think that is?
"Though the polio immunization campaign in the country started in 1974,[8] the efforts for eradication officially started in 1994.[9] The infection remains endemic despite over 100 rounds of vaccination being carried out in the past decade.[10] Pakistan had the world's highest number of polio cases in 2014.[11][12][13][14]"

No. Pakistan has a lot of people like you PP. They don’t believe in vaccinations.

The misconception of people about polio vaccine, insecurity within the country and poor health system are the reasons of failure of polio eradication campaigns in these regions. Awareness campaigns about polio for locals and development of proper health system will help in the eradication of polio.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28718581/#:~:text=The%20misconception%20of%20people%20about,in%20the%20eradication%20of%20polio.

Now imagine if instead of vaccinating millions of people for 50+ years, they just cleaned up the water supply.

Coincidently, Polio is going away as: "...country has increased the share of the population with access to an improved water source from 85% in 1990 to 92% in 2010,"

No, no, must be the vaccine though.

Wow. Your ignorance is astounding. Just astounding. Do you actually believe this? I sincerely hope you are just trolling.

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

And yet polio was eradicated by the spread of vaccines to other countries where the sanitation infrastructure severely lagged in modernization. Why do you think you know more than scientists that have made if their life's work eradicate polio? What makes you think that you know better?

For some odd reason 100 rounds of vaccination hasn't eradicated polio in Pakistan. Why do you think that is?
"Though the polio immunization campaign in the country started in 1974,[8] the efforts for eradication officially started in 1994.[9] The infection remains endemic despite over 100 rounds of vaccination being carried out in the past decade.[10] Pakistan had the world's highest number of polio cases in 2014.[11][12][13][14]"

No. Pakistan has a lot of people like you PP. They don’t believe in vaccinations.

The misconception of people about polio vaccine, insecurity within the country and poor health system are the reasons of failure of polio eradication campaigns in these regions. Awareness campaigns about polio for locals and development of proper health system will help in the eradication of polio.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28718581/#:~:text=The%20misconception%20of%20people%20about,in%20the%20eradication%20of%20polio.

Now imagine if instead of vaccinating millions of people for 50+ years, they just cleaned up the water supply.

Coincidently, Polio is going away as: "...country has increased the share of the population with access to an improved water source from 85% in 1990 to 92% in 2010,"

No, no, must be the vaccine though.

Hey, would you please elaborate on what the conspiracy is behind the vaccine?

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

Another dimwit here. My dad's cousin contracted polio and was in a wheelchair for the remainder of his life - grew up eating farm to table in a lovely country home, but nutrition and sanitation do NOTHING for polio.

Polio is entirely sanitation driven, maybe you missed some posts while typing. Chances are pretty good that the "farm to table" process had some dudes taking a dump on the produce and not washing it afterwards. Maybe the vaccine would have helped, but personally, I'll take my lettuce without the feces.

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

Another dimwit here. My dad's cousin contracted polio and was in a wheelchair for the remainder of his life - grew up eating farm to table in a lovely country home, but nutrition and sanitation do NOTHING for polio.

Polio is entirely sanitation driven, maybe you missed some posts while typing. Chances are pretty good that the "farm to table" process had some dudes taking a dump on the produce and not washing it afterwards. Maybe the vaccine would have helped, but personally, I'll take my lettuce without the feces.

Polio also spreads from droplets from coughing/sneezing. But I appreciate that doesn't fit the conspiracy-driven disinformation campaign you're running here.

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

Another dimwit here. My dad's cousin contracted polio and was in a wheelchair for the remainder of his life - grew up eating farm to table in a lovely country home, but nutrition and sanitation do NOTHING for polio.

Polio is entirely sanitation driven, maybe you missed some posts while typing. Chances are pretty good that the "farm to table" process had some dudes taking a dump on the produce and not washing it afterwards. Maybe the vaccine would have helped, but personally, I'll take my lettuce without the feces.

What’s the conspiracy? Why is there a vaccine if it doesn’t work? Please tell us which evil cabbal is secretly controlling the world by making everyone eat unnecessary sugar cubes?

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Good lord at the ignorance in this thread. Public health generally and vaccines specifically have been among the greatest successes in history. Life expectancy at birth increased by more than 30 years during the 20th century, largely due to public health measures.

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I swear to God we're about two years away from another Snopes Monkey Trial.

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

And yet polio was eradicated by the spread of vaccines to other countries where the sanitation infrastructure severely lagged in modernization. Why do you think you know more than scientists that have made if their life's work eradicate polio? What makes you think that you know better?

For some odd reason 100 rounds of vaccination hasn't eradicated polio in Pakistan. Why do you think that is?
"Though the polio immunization campaign in the country started in 1974,[8] the efforts for eradication officially started in 1994.[9] The infection remains endemic despite over 100 rounds of vaccination being carried out in the past decade.[10] Pakistan had the world's highest number of polio cases in 2014.[11][12][13][14]"

No. Pakistan has a lot of people like you PP. They don’t believe in vaccinations.

The misconception of people about polio vaccine, insecurity within the country and poor health system are the reasons of failure of polio eradication campaigns in these regions. Awareness campaigns about polio for locals and development of proper health system will help in the eradication of polio.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28718581/#:~:text=The%20misconception%20of%20people%20about,in%20the%20eradication%20of%20polio.

Now imagine if instead of vaccinating millions of people for 50+ years, they just cleaned up the water supply.

Coincidently, Polio is going away as: "...country has increased the share of the population with access to an improved water source from 85% in 1990 to 92% in 2010,"

No, no, must be the vaccine though.

Hey, would you please elaborate on what the conspiracy is behind the vaccine?

Its so simple and out in the open its hard to even call it a conspiracy. Large scale improvements in sanitation, nutrition, living conditions, etc... have drastically improved people's quality of life and resistance to disease. The medical industry however claims all these improvements are actually the result of vaccines instead.

Coincidently vaccines can be monetized by the medical industry in a way that say clean water cannot be. The medical industry has captive regulatory bodies recommend these ever growing number of miracle vaccines to every person born. They insist that this is safe while setting up a parallel legal system, known as the "vaccine court" which essentially denies anyone harmed by vaccines from having the normal legal recourse: "The Office of Special Masters of the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, popularly known as "vaccine court", administers a no-fault system for litigating vaccine injury claims. These claims against vaccine manufacturers cannot normally be filed in state or federal civil courts, but instead must be heard in the U.S. Court of Federal Claims, sitting without a jury."