Why are many conservatives fixated on vaccine mandates?

[Anonymous]

Republicans only care about individuals, themselves, not people overall.

[Anonymous]

Oppose vaccine mandates but support RTO mandates to spread disease. Make it make sense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

Your right for your child to die from a communicable disease stops where my child’s right to live is concerned.

If you don’t want to vaccinate your children against diseases that historically used to kill them then you keep your child at home to teach them yourself or you send them to a private school with other kids whose parents don’t want them inoculated against deadly diseases and they can all fester together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because conservatives are rightly skeptical of vaccine efficacy and safety.

Can anyone argue that the expanded vaccine mandates forced on kids today have made them any healthier than the more minimal vaccine schedules used on older generations?

Are any older people rushing out to get the vaccines they missed out on?

Polio? Tetanus? Diptheria? Ya, fun times.

Those were all covered by the vaccine schedule in the 1950s. Kids get 36+ vaccines now depending on how you count things. What benefit has then been from these additional 33+ vaccines that are required now but weren't before?

Maybe if you roll back the schedule to just your three examples, you wouldn't has nearly as much resistence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

Your right for your child to die from a communicable disease stops where my child’s right to live is concerned.

If you don’t want to vaccinate your children against diseases that historically used to kill them then you keep your child at home to teach them yourself or you send them to a private school with other kids whose parents don’t want them inoculated against deadly diseases and they can all fester together.

This.

We live in a society which comes with certain rules. If you want to opt out, you are well within your rights to homeschool your children and find employment or sustenance that doesn't require a workplace or other social interactions. No one is forcing anyone to get vaccinated, but if you want to send your kid to a public school, it comes with rules. If you have an employer, it may come with rules. That is called being a human.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

Your right for your child to die from a communicable disease stops where my child’s right to live is concerned.

If you don’t want to vaccinate your children against diseases that historically used to kill them then you keep your child at home to teach them yourself or you send them to a private school with other kids whose parents don’t want them inoculated against deadly diseases and they can all fester together.

If your kid is vaccinated, then what do you have to worry about with unvaccinated kids?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because conservatives are rightly skeptical of vaccine efficacy and safety.

Can anyone argue that the expanded vaccine mandates forced on kids today have made them any healthier than the more minimal vaccine schedules used on older generations?

Are any older people rushing out to get the vaccines they missed out on?

Polio? Tetanus? Diptheria? Ya, fun times.

Those were all covered by the vaccine schedule in the 1950s. Kids get 36+ vaccines now depending on how you count things. What benefit has then been from these additional 33+ vaccines that are required now but weren't before?

Maybe if you roll back the schedule to just your three examples, you wouldn't has nearly as much resistence.

Actual science says otherwise. I know RFK Jr and other anti-vaxxers play in alternative science, and if people want to follow them, they are more than welcome to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

Your right for your child to die from a communicable disease stops where my child’s right to live is concerned.

If you don’t want to vaccinate your children against diseases that historically used to kill them then you keep your child at home to teach them yourself or you send them to a private school with other kids whose parents don’t want them inoculated against deadly diseases and they can all fester together.

If your kid is vaccinated, then what do you have to worry about with unvaccinated kids?

I guess you STILL don't understand how vaccines work and what they can, and cannot do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

So would you say autonomy over one's body is something conservatives would fight to enshrine into law??

NP here - and a woman. Abortion is not solely an issue of autonomy over one's body because it also involves killing your offspring. As much as you seem to want it to be, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison.

Nope. Really is that simple

You are either disingenuous or obtuse. Abortion is not a "my body, my choice" situation like vaccine mandates. Abortion involves two bodies, so abortion is favoring the convenience of one body over the actual life of the other, hence why many are against abortion.

Now, with that said, I could see how some view vaccines the same way, so in that sense, maybe they are related, but not in the way you would suggest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

So would you say autonomy over one's body is something conservatives would fight to enshrine into law??

NP here - and a woman. Abortion is not solely an issue of autonomy over one's body because it also involves killing your offspring. As much as you seem to want it to be, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison.

Nope. Really is that simple

You are either disingenuous or obtuse. Abortion is not a "my body, my choice" situation like vaccine mandates. Abortion involves two bodies, so abortion is favoring the convenience of one body over the actual life of the other, hence why many are against abortion.

Now, with that said, I could see how some view vaccines the same way, so in that sense, maybe they are related, but not in the way you would suggest.

The bolded is your opinion. If you believe then don't have an abortion. You don't have the right to impose your opinion on to others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The democrats:

- ideas so good, they’re mandatory. Like in North Korea.

Like the forced birther states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

So would you say autonomy over one's body is something conservatives would fight to enshrine into law??

NP here - and a woman. Abortion is not solely an issue of autonomy over one's body because it also involves killing your offspring. As much as you seem to want it to be, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison.

Nope. Really is that simple

You are either disingenuous or obtuse. Abortion is not a "my body, my choice" situation like vaccine mandates. Abortion involves two bodies, so abortion is favoring the convenience of one body over the actual life of the other, hence why many are against abortion.

Now, with that said, I could see how some view vaccines the same way, so in that sense, maybe they are related, but not in the way you would suggest.

The bolded is your opinion. If you believe then don't have an abortion. You don't have the right to impose your opinion on to others.

+1 The whiny little Republicans had absolute fits over masks and vaccines and neither of those things remotely approaches the sacrifice of pregnancy, labor, delivery and nursing. Whiny little bees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

Your right for your child to die from a communicable disease stops where my child’s right to live is concerned.

If you don’t want to vaccinate your children against diseases that historically used to kill them then you keep your child at home to teach them yourself or you send them to a private school with other kids whose parents don’t want them inoculated against deadly diseases and they can all fester together.

If your kid is vaccinated, then what do you have to worry about with unvaccinated kids?

I guess you STILL don't understand how vaccines work and what they can, and cannot do.

Feel free to enlighten me. What exactly do vaccines do? How much protection do they give and for how long?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

So would you say autonomy over one's body is something conservatives would fight to enshrine into law??

NP here - and a woman. Abortion is not solely an issue of autonomy over one's body because it also involves killing your offspring. As much as you seem to want it to be, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison.

Nope. Really is that simple

You are either disingenuous or obtuse. Abortion is not a "my body, my choice" situation like vaccine mandates. Abortion involves two bodies, so abortion is favoring the convenience of one body over the actual life of the other, hence why many are against abortion.

Now, with that said, I could see how some view vaccines the same way, so in that sense, maybe they are related, but not in the way you would suggest.

What I hear you saying is that the government gets to force one of those bodies, the one that is already fully formed and in the world, to serve without compensation the other potential body even though that process of labor could kill the first body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

Your right for your child to die from a communicable disease stops where my child’s right to live is concerned.

If you don’t want to vaccinate your children against diseases that historically used to kill them then you keep your child at home to teach them yourself or you send them to a private school with other kids whose parents don’t want them inoculated against deadly diseases and they can all fester together.

If your kid is vaccinated, then what do you have to worry about with unvaccinated kids?

I guess you STILL don't understand how vaccines work and what they can, and cannot do.

Feel free to enlighten me. What exactly do vaccines do? How much protection do they give and for how long?

It depends on the virus they are protecting against. But few of them are 100% eradication, so sending your kid who might be infected with something to school, even if everyone else is inoculated, could still present an issue, which is why the schools prefer 100% inoculation.