Why are many conservatives fixated on vaccine mandates?

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Are conservatives opposing vaccine mandates like RFK, or is it just COVID vaccine mandates?

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Anonymous wrote:I did not consider myself conservative until there were Covid vaccine mandates. Especially after Biden explicitly said during a tv interview that there wouldn’t be.

But this isn’t political for you at all. You are just deciding each thing on the merits, right?

I’m the PP and no I didn’t consider myself political at all before this. I still don’t like everything on the conservative side (I do support abortions until viability outside the womb) but I really hate someone telling me I need to inject something into my body and my kids’ bodies after they say that I won’t need to and we have proof that it doesn’t stop you getting the virus and it doesn’t stop you passing it on. It’s honestly insane and yes, quite obviously completely political.

I don’t believe you. Regardless, there was no nationwide vaccine mandate.

There were mandates for those of us who work for companies that do government projects. Everyone in our companies were required to get it, even if we weren’t working on those projects ourselves.

And you had the right to get a different job. If you chose to work for a company that had federal contracts, then they had to risk losing the work, or serving the terms of the contract. That isn't a mandate. No one tied you down and forced a needle in you.

If the goverment puts in the contract that Covid vaccines were required, that’s a mandate

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Anonymous wrote:Are conservatives opposing vaccine mandates like RFK, or is it just COVID vaccine mandates?

They have begun opposing all vaccine mandates

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

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Vaccines are a liberal plot. Bring back polio. Being crippled builds character. MAGA

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

I don’t feel the need to debate you on settled historical facts. I can also ask people alive at the time the vaccine was introduced. But you’ve revealed quite a bit about how misinformed certain people are.

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

Chickenpox cases are down 97% since the vaccine came out. That's also the virus behind shingles so those benefits will carry forward. But go ahead and blame scientific advancement on you doing a better job wiping your ass. That seems on-brand.

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

And yet polio was eradicated by the spread of vaccines to other countries where the sanitation infrastructure severely lagged in modernization. Why do you think you know more than scientists that have made if their life's work eradicate polio? What makes you think that you know better?

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

I don’t feel the need to debate you on settled historical facts. I can also ask people alive at the time the vaccine was introduced. But you’ve revealed quite a bit about how misinformed certain people are.

I'll make a deal with you, how about you take your Polio vaccinated self to the westernmost parts of Pakistan and drink out of a bunch of stagnant pools of water. I'll keep my unvaccinated self here and drink clean tap water. We'll see who gets Polio first.

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

And yet polio was eradicated by the spread of vaccines to other countries where the sanitation infrastructure severely lagged in modernization. Why do you think you know more than scientists that have made if their life's work eradicate polio? What makes you think that you know better?

For some odd reason 100 rounds of vaccination hasn't eradicated polio in Pakistan. Why do you think that is?
"Though the polio immunization campaign in the country started in 1974,[8] the efforts for eradication officially started in 1994.[9] The infection remains endemic despite over 100 rounds of vaccination being carried out in the past decade.[10] Pakistan had the world's highest number of polio cases in 2014.[11][12][13][14]"

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

And yet polio was eradicated by the spread of vaccines to other countries where the sanitation infrastructure severely lagged in modernization. Why do you think you know more than scientists that have made if their life's work eradicate polio? What makes you think that you know better?

For some odd reason 100 rounds of vaccination hasn't eradicated polio in Pakistan. Why do you think that is?
"Though the polio immunization campaign in the country started in 1974,[8] the efforts for eradication officially started in 1994.[9] The infection remains endemic despite over 100 rounds of vaccination being carried out in the past decade.[10] Pakistan had the world's highest number of polio cases in 2014.[11][12][13][14]"

No. Pakistan has a lot of people like you PP. They don’t believe in vaccinations.

The misconception of people about polio vaccine, insecurity within the country and poor health system are the reasons of failure of polio eradication campaigns in these regions. Awareness campaigns about polio for locals and development of proper health system will help in the eradication of polio.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28718581/#:~:text=The%20misconception%20of%20people%20about,in%20the%20eradication%20of%20polio.

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

And yet polio was eradicated by the spread of vaccines to other countries where the sanitation infrastructure severely lagged in modernization. Why do you think you know more than scientists that have made if their life's work eradicate polio? What makes you think that you know better?

For some odd reason 100 rounds of vaccination hasn't eradicated polio in Pakistan. Why do you think that is?
"Though the polio immunization campaign in the country started in 1974,[8] the efforts for eradication officially started in 1994.[9] The infection remains endemic despite over 100 rounds of vaccination being carried out in the past decade.[10] Pakistan had the world's highest number of polio cases in 2014.[11][12][13][14]"

You don't think the paragraph that came directly in front of your quote is relevant? Or you just decided that credibility isn't something you were seeking? If you were, you'd have linked it yourself.

"While it has yet to fully eradicate Polio, there has been a major downwards trend in the number of reported cases per year; the total count of wild poliovirus cases in Pakistan in 2019 was down to 147,[4] compared to 84 in 2020, 1 in 2021, 20 in 2022,[5] 6 in 2023[6] and 8 as of June 2024."

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/quote/105/28449938.page

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Anonymous wrote:The Govt didn't require it... companies did. I thought that is what MAGA wanted?

I don't care if you get one or not.....just like you shouldn't care what I do to my body

The Govt tried, but the Supreme Court stopped them in case anyone is purposely forgetting how things went down. They did manage to fire a bunch of military, and are still hurting for recruits as a result.

Cry harder. No one wants their recruit in an infectious disease stew. You want to be in the military, get a vaccine to protect the community or go do something else.

From "There was no mandate" to "cry harder" in a single page. Gosh, I can't imagine why people don't trust you people with power to mandate things.

Why didn’t you oppose the vaccine mandates for public school children before COVID started?

Uh, I did. Vaccination is basically an entirely fraudulent industry. Industry being the key word.

People give credit to vaccination that rightly belong to nutrition and sanitation.

You think the polio vaccine was a fraud?

You think a disease that is spread by feces was cured by a vaccine and not sanitation improvements?
"Polio occurs naturally only in humans.[1] It is highly infectious, and is spread from person to person either through fecal–oral transmission[1][6] (e.g. poor hygiene, or by ingestion of food or water contaminated by human feces), or via the oral–oral route."

And yet polio was eradicated by the spread of vaccines to other countries where the sanitation infrastructure severely lagged in modernization. Why do you think you know more than scientists that have made if their life's work eradicate polio? What makes you think that you know better?

For some odd reason 100 rounds of vaccination hasn't eradicated polio in Pakistan. Why do you think that is?
"Though the polio immunization campaign in the country started in 1974,[8] the efforts for eradication officially started in 1994.[9] The infection remains endemic despite over 100 rounds of vaccination being carried out in the past decade.[10] Pakistan had the world's highest number of polio cases in 2014.[11][12][13][14]"

You don't think the paragraph that came directly in front of your quote is relevant? Or you just decided that credibility isn't something you were seeking? If you were, you'd have linked it yourself.

"While it has yet to fully eradicate Polio, there has been a major downwards trend in the number of reported cases per year; the total count of wild poliovirus cases in Pakistan in 2019 was down to 147,[4] compared to 84 in 2020, 1 in 2021, 20 in 2022,[5] 6 in 2023[6] and 8 as of June 2024."

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/quote/105/28449938.page

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_in_Pakistan#:~:text=While%20it%20has%20yet%20to,8%20as%20of%20June%202024.