Why are many conservatives fixated on vaccine mandates?

[Anonymous]

What's "conservative" about opposing vaccine mandates? Conservatives don't exactly have a consistent "my body my choice" position on bodily autonomy. And they're all for employers exerting power over employees, so it's not about labor rights either.

It seems to just be a contrarian, the scientists are Democrats and being pro-vaccine is thus a liberal position and we're against it. Nothing more.

[Anonymous]

Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

[Anonymous]

It a tyranny of the state issue, just like prohibition was a tyranny of the state issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

So would you say autonomy over one's body is something conservatives would fight to enshrine into law??

[Anonymous]

So conservatives are willing to fight for the right to make medical decisions for one's own body?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

So would you say autonomy over one's body is something conservatives would fight to enshrine into law??

NP here - and a woman. Abortion is not solely an issue of autonomy over one's body because it also involves killing your offspring. As much as you seem to want it to be, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So conservatives are willing to fight for the right to make medical decisions for one's own body?

They are too stupid to even understand their own hypocrisy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

So would you say autonomy over one's body is something conservatives would fight to enshrine into law??

NP here - and a woman. Abortion is not solely an issue of autonomy over one's body because it also involves killing your offspring. As much as you seem to want it to be, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison.

Nope. Really is that simple

[Anonymous]

Because conservatives are rightly skeptical of vaccine efficacy and safety.

Can anyone argue that the expanded vaccine mandates forced on kids today have made them any healthier than the more minimal vaccine schedules used on older generations?

Are any older people rushing out to get the vaccines they missed out on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So conservatives are willing to fight for the right to make medical decisions for one's own body?

They are too stupid to even understand their own hypocrisy.

+1

It’s all about “the individual” if you’re a white, Christian man. If not, then you have to do whatever they want.

[Anonymous]

The democrats:

- ideas so good, they’re mandatory. Like in North Korea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Conservatives are not about labor rights. They are about INDIVIDUAL rights.

Surprised you haven't got this. It's pretty basic. You know... nation of laws, not of men. Separation of Powers, Equal Protection, Private Property Rights, Due Process, Federalism, etc.

Liberals are all about state power over individuals. Conservatives are all about individual power over the state and not letting it get out of control, like it has today.

BTW, very few people were anti-vaccine until they started pushing mRNA vaccines rather than conventional recombinant and conjugate vaccines.

You're probably of this mondset that "newer is always better". Well, it isn't, especially when you're injecting things into people. Got it?

Finally, when I see MANDATES, I immediately want to fight them. If things are good, they'll sell themselves. If you have to have a bureaucrat standing over me, forcing me or threatening my livelihood to get what you want, then you have a fight on your hands.

That's where democrats fail. They lecture and cajole, but when people say no, then they move to coercion to get their way.

So would you say autonomy over one's body is something conservatives would fight to enshrine into law??

NP here - and a woman. Abortion is not solely an issue of autonomy over one's body because it also involves killing your offspring. As much as you seem to want it to be, it's not an apples-to-apples comparison.

It is only killing your offspring if that is what you have been led to believe. One person's "offspring" is another person's "clump of cells" - one side does not get to impose their beliefs on the other side, yet that is exactly what is happening right now. If the people who believe it is offspring don't want to have abortions, no one is forcing them. If the people who believe it is a clump of cells want to have an abortion, they have the right to get one if they want within the standard of Roe, which is a commonly acceptable application.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The democrats:

- ideas so good, they’re mandatory. Like in North Korea.

So you have the right to send your sick kid to school and get everyone else's kid sick? the teachers sick and the teachers families sick?

Sound lovely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because conservatives are rightly skeptical of vaccine efficacy and safety.

Can anyone argue that the expanded vaccine mandates forced on kids today have made them any healthier than the more minimal vaccine schedules used on older generations?

Are any older people rushing out to get the vaccines they missed out on?

Polio? Tetanus? Diptheria? Ya, fun times.

[Anonymous]

Vaccines and Abortions have a similar effect of destroying an invasive life form. It's completely naturally consistent to oppose both or favor both.

Viruses have a right to life.

Now, taking that view while also supporting killing of animals and plants, is logically dicey.