King Charles and Prince William wished Harry a Happy 40th Birthday!

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

I wouldn't trust any parent who raises a child from birth to be a spare. There is a reason that younger royals routinely go off the rails

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

I wouldn't trust any parent who raises a child from birth to be a spare. There is a reason that younger royals routinely go off the rails

Charles was born into it and had two kids. Not sure what "raise to be a spare" means. That's how it's been in noble families forever, just by incident of birth order: the oldest gets the title and castle. And tbh it is a bit like this in ALL families: the oldest is more dutiful and responsible and the second one less so. It's certainly that way for me and my brother.

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

I wouldn't trust any parent who raises a child from birth to be a spare. There is a reason that younger royals routinely go off the rails

Great. No family ties for you, Harry, and Meghan.

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

I wouldn't trust any parent who raises a child from birth to be a spare. There is a reason that younger royals routinely go off the rails

Great. No family ties for you, Harry, and Meghan.

Right, everyone involved seems fine with that. It’s the fans online that can’t stand that Harry isn’t begging to get back into the fold.

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

These comments about how Harry's and Meghan's decision to discuss these matters in public interviews and via Harry's book are somehow "against the rules" and beyond the pale are HILARIOUS to me. Literally both of Harry's parents did precisely this in the 90s during their divorce in order to lash out at each other AND much to the chagrin of the Queen and Phillip and the Queen Mother. In fact may fo the complaints about Harry's book and the Oprah interview are identical to complaints that people both within and without the royal family had about Charles' biography and a special interview he did in the 90s where he complained extensively about his mother's staff, the media, Diana, and a host of other issues. This was also the interview where he admitted to adultery publicly for the first time (something his parents were horrified and angered by as this was seen as airing of private family matters) and he also publicly praised Camilla at a time when the public was very much siding with Diana in the divorce (thanks to her own PR efforts via interviews and leaks (and for which Diana ALSO invoked the ire of the family and was never forgiven by most of them).

It's just funny to watch the pearl clutching over Harry's behavior when he's basically just doing what both his parents did during his formative years. Growing up in that family, of course Harry thinks the proper way to resolve a family dispute is to do a very public interview in which you try to paint yourself as a blameless victim while also appearing reluctant as you tell the world about the things you hate most about your closest relatives. Forget cutting ribbons and waving from balconies -- this is the actual family business.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/08/how-prince-charles-sought-revenge-against-princess-diana-and-the-palace#:~:text=In%201992%2C%20Charles%20was%20reeling,as%20a%20harsh%2C%20spineless%20cheater.

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

I read the book and don’t think it had any incriminating/ family bashing info.
William is known to have a temper, siblings as children do fight.
I also don’t think that their Oprah interview was that terrible.
Nobody trusts each other in that family, they have the tabloids on speed dial.

Camilla is known to be good friends with Pierce Morgan.
I don’t believe everything I see on the British tabloids and do not believe that one person is all fault.
Diana brought the BRF into the limelight like never before in history and Charles was incredibly jealous of that.

The Queen sacrificed herself for the crown in the name of duty, but times have changed. Harry is not the heir and never will be so there is no reason for him to not live his own life.

Interestingly the British media have left the son in laws out of the bad press, women are the current targets

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

I read the book and don’t think it had any incriminating/ family bashing info.
William is known to have a temper, siblings as children do fight.
I also don’t think that their Oprah interview was that terrible.
Nobody trusts each other in that family, they have the tabloids on speed dial.

Camilla is known to be good friends with Pierce Morgan.
I don’t believe everything I see on the British tabloids and do not believe that one person is all fault.
Diana brought the BRF into the limelight like never before in history and Charles was incredibly jealous of that.

The Queen sacrificed herself for the crown in the name of duty, but times have changed. Harry is not the heir and never will be so there is no reason for him to not live his own life.

Interestingly the British media have left the son in laws out of the bad press, women are the current targets

I read the book too. Harry came off petty and immature. I think just having the interview was 100% wrong. You're done or you are not. Either is fine. Don't try and capitalize on estrangement.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

I wouldn't trust any parent who raises a child from birth to be a spare. There is a reason that younger royals routinely go off the rails

Great. No family ties for you, Harry, and Meghan.

Right, everyone involved seems fine with that. It’s the fans online that can’t stand that Harry isn’t begging to get back into the fold.

Most people don't care at all about his being back in the fold. They just want him and his lovely bride to live their lives without criticizing their families publicly.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

I wouldn't trust any parent who raises a child from birth to be a spare. There is a reason that younger royals routinely go off the rails

Great. No family ties for you, Harry, and Meghan.

Right, everyone involved seems fine with that. It’s the fans online that can’t stand that Harry isn’t begging to get back into the fold.

Most people don't care at all about his being back in the fold. They just want him and his lovely bride to live their lives without criticizing their families publicly.

Who cares one way or another though. I didn't read Harry's book and I only saw snippets of the Oprah interview. Have they done anything else -- it seems like they've been pretty quiet and low key since then unless I'm overlooking press leaks or something.

I think Harry felt he needed to explain his decision to leave the family publicly and I also think the British press were so aggressively nasty and racist to Meghan that she felt compelled to state publicly what a toll that took on her especially during and right after her pregnancy. I think it felt like a public ordeal to them and they put a public period on it. Plus no doubt the proceeds from the book were useful to them (I don't judge -- everyone is trying to make a buck). But it's not like they are in the press every few months telling tales. And the family has been leaking embarrassing things about Harry literally his entire life, even when you was just a teenager. They still do it -- there were leaks about him around the Queen's funeral and the coronation and his dad's cancer diagnosis. So it's just odd to be upset with him for playing that game when he's been on the receiving end probably more than most.

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Harry is a laughing stock, he had no idea things would turn out this way

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

These comments about how Harry's and Meghan's decision to discuss these matters in public interviews and via Harry's book are somehow "against the rules" and beyond the pale are HILARIOUS to me. Literally both of Harry's parents did precisely this in the 90s during their divorce in order to lash out at each other AND much to the chagrin of the Queen and Phillip and the Queen Mother. In fact may fo the complaints about Harry's book and the Oprah interview are identical to complaints that people both within and without the royal family had about Charles' biography and a special interview he did in the 90s where he complained extensively about his mother's staff, the media, Diana, and a host of other issues. This was also the interview where he admitted to adultery publicly for the first time (something his parents were horrified and angered by as this was seen as airing of private family matters) and he also publicly praised Camilla at a time when the public was very much siding with Diana in the divorce (thanks to her own PR efforts via interviews and leaks (and for which Diana ALSO invoked the ire of the family and was never forgiven by most of them).

It's just funny to watch the pearl clutching over Harry's behavior when he's basically just doing what both his parents did during his formative years. Growing up in that family, of course Harry thinks the proper way to resolve a family dispute is to do a very public interview in which you try to paint yourself as a blameless victim while also appearing reluctant as you tell the world about the things you hate most about your closest relatives. Forget cutting ribbons and waving from balconies -- this is the actual family business.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2022/08/how-prince-charles-sought-revenge-against-princess-diana-and-the-palace#:~:text=In%201992%2C%20Charles%20was%20reeling,as%20a%20harsh%2C%20spineless%20cheater.

Preach it sister!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

I wouldn't trust any parent who raises a child from birth to be a spare. There is a reason that younger royals routinely go off the rails

Great. No family ties for you, Harry, and Meghan.

Right, everyone involved seems fine with that. It’s the fans online that can’t stand that Harry isn’t begging to get back into the fold.

Actually, it's the whining and grifting we can't stand. Everyone is fine with him putting the past behind him and moving on with his nuclear family.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry is a laughing stock, he had no idea things would turn out this way

+1. Every time Meghan pushes him and other people out of the way, takes gifts meant for him, so she can be the center of attention, it is pathetic and funny.

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

I wouldn't trust any parent who raises a child from birth to be a spare. There is a reason that younger royals routinely go off the rails

Charles was born into it and had two kids. Not sure what "raise to be a spare" means. That's how it's been in noble families forever, just by incident of birth order: the oldest gets the title and castle. And tbh it is a bit like this in ALL families: the oldest is more dutiful and responsible and the second one less so. It's certainly that way for me and my brother.

It's always been that way and younger royal siblings have historically been massive screwups. All things considered, Harry is well adjusted, certainly better than Uncle Andrew

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.

I wouldn't trust any parent who raises a child from birth to be a spare. There is a reason that younger royals routinely go off the rails

Great. No family ties for you, Harry, and Meghan.

Right, everyone involved seems fine with that. It’s the fans online that can’t stand that Harry isn’t begging to get back into the fold.

Most people don't care at all about his being back in the fold. They just want him and his lovely bride to live their lives without criticizing their families publicly.

+1. The "fold" is doing fine without them. More responsibility is being passed to his cousins.