King Charles and Prince William wished Harry a Happy 40th Birthday!

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Anonymous wrote:I think they would have been ok with him going to do his own thing eventually but they are not ok, very understandably and like any family, with the public trashing. I think they were also concerned about Meghan, which made Harry very upset and was the main impetus to leaving. But as time goes on their concerns about her seem to be valid, whether Harry wants to admit it or not. He is stuck again but this time of his own making.

No, they wanted him as Williams assistant like Anne is.

Now he's Meghan's assistant.

Even if that were accurate (I sense Meghan treats him much better and with far more kindness and respect than William ever has), if it's what he prefers what's wrong with that? Why should his obligation to serve his family trump his personal preference?

I mean I guess if you actually believe the British monarch is ordained by God to rule (or rather, to figurehead in contemporary England) then Harry has a religious obligation. But if you don't believe in that fairytale then he's just a guy from a wealthy family who didn't want to go into the family businesses and work for his dad and brother. Who cares?

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Anonymous wrote:This warmed my heart. Perhaps both of their recent experiences with cancer made them realize life is too short. I hope they can repair their relationship!

I think you're reading too much into it. I think this is just a formal, PR-driven acknowledgement of a milestone birthday. If they ignored his birthday completely the optics would be terrible, and they (William/Catherine) would have opened themselves up to a lot of criticism.

+1 Have to be careful when your words could be used to criticize you in a book or on television. Trust has been broken.

Yikes if they only make good choices because they’re afraid of being exposed as awful people in the non-UK media.

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That's no way to air family grievances. Of course, there are always those who think it's fine to trash family on worldwide television and in books for $$$; but if that's done, don't expect your family to trust you anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:This warmed my heart. Perhaps both of their recent experiences with cancer made them realize life is too short. I hope they can repair their relationship!

I think you're reading too much into it. I think this is just a formal, PR-driven acknowledgement of a milestone birthday. If they ignored his birthday completely the optics would be terrible, and they (William/Catherine) would have opened themselves up to a lot of criticism.

+1 Have to be careful when your words could be used to criticize you in a book or on television. Trust has been broken.

Yikes if they only make good choices because they’re afraid of being exposed as awful people in the non-UK media.

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That's no way to air family grievances. Of course, there are always those who think it's fine to trash family on worldwide television and in books for $$$; but if that's done, don't expect your family to trust you anymore.

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Yes obviously it’s much more civilized to do so through anonymous sources in the tabloids.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah, Prince William shouldn't have allowed this.

Keep Harry out in the cold (If he is happy in his new life... Good for him).

But lest William forget, just last year Harry was leaking to his favorite author that Catherine was racist to a baby.

That should never be forgotten.

You shouldn’t be a racist a$$hole to a baby then if you don’t want people to know. DUH.

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

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All this fighting. The bottom line is both sides are not perfect. You can point fingers but if you step back, regardless of who’s at fault, it’s obvious the relationship is past the point of reconciliation.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they would have been ok with him going to do his own thing eventually but they are not ok, very understandably and like any family, with the public trashing. I think they were also concerned about Meghan, which made Harry very upset and was the main impetus to leaving. But as time goes on their concerns about her seem to be valid, whether Harry wants to admit it or not. He is stuck again but this time of his own making.

No, they wanted him as Williams assistant like Anne is.

Now he's Meghan's assistant.

Even if that were accurate (I sense Meghan treats him much better and with far more kindness and respect than William ever has), if it's what he prefers what's wrong with that? Why should his obligation to serve his family trump his personal preference?

I mean I guess if you actually believe the British monarch is ordained by God to rule (or rather, to figurehead in contemporary England) then Harry has a religious obligation. But if you don't believe in that fairytale then he's just a guy from a wealthy family who didn't want to go into the family businesses and work for his dad and brother. Who cares?

PP and others care because Harry chose to marry a Black woman who wouldn’t put up with the firm’s BS like other vapid members of the royal family. PP is angry that Meg showed Harry that he doesn’t have to put up that behavior, and that Harry left that toxic environment to protect his and his wife’s mental health.

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Anonymous wrote:The protocol that the queen had set was to acknowledge birthdays ending in zero for non working royals. That’s all. Harry is a traitor and will never again be trusted.

Harry was not a traitor, he had no choice but to leave. The palace has been behind a lot of toxic press.
Look into the rehabilitation of Camilla on you tube. It is eye opening and not surprising.
The timing was bad for Harry and Meghan. Prince Andrew needed to be protected and every article about them was not an article about him.

He was a liar and a traitor to his family.

His family is disgusting.

Sooo...for both of them (except for their moms), their families are "disgusting" and only useful as objects of criticism from them--for which they get paid huge sums of money. Lovely.

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

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If saying happy birthday dislodges this big of an uproar it’s the most I’m saying or doing.

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Anonymous wrote:All this fighting. The bottom line is both sides are not perfect. You can point fingers but if you step back, regardless of who’s at fault, it’s obvious the relationship is past the point of reconciliation.

Agree both sides are imperfect. Camila and William shouldn't have leaked to the tabloids. And whether or not Harry tried to get Charles to stop them, Harry shouldn't have published a book to get even.

But there's another problem too, and that's the everyday racism and/or spiteful childishness towards H and M in Britain that this white daughter of a British mom notices when she goes back to visit cousins. 10:55 from last night is typical of the hundreds of incredibly childish and hateful posts you'll find in the comments section of the Daily Mail ( , embarrassed that I sometimes read it). 10:55 is bad on so many dimensions that it's worth going back to read. As someone with a British parent and British relatives, I'm really disappointed in the British public and, obviously, in some juvenile Americans. This obviously isn't to say there's no racism or childish behavior in the US, because 10:55 definitely demonstrates it. It's just to say that whatever happened with Charles and William leaking to the tabloids, this banal, everyday racism and/or spiteful childishness also makes Britain a really inhospitable place for Harry and Meghan.

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Anonymous wrote:If saying happy birthday dislodges this big of an uproar it’s the most I’m saying or doing.

Just make sure you sign the card (unlike William and Catherine) and all will be well. It's the lack of signatures that caused the "uproar."

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Anonymous wrote:If saying happy birthday dislodges this big of an uproar it’s the most I’m saying or doing.

Just make sure you sign the card (unlike William and Catherine) and all will be well. It's the lack of signatures that caused the "uproar."

No, read the comments. They’re all over the place.

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Anonymous wrote:All this fighting. The bottom line is both sides are not perfect. You can point fingers but if you step back, regardless of who’s at fault, it’s obvious the relationship is past the point of reconciliation.

Agree both sides are imperfect. Camila and William shouldn't have leaked to the tabloids. And whether or not Harry tried to get Charles to stop them, Harry shouldn't have published a book to get even.

But there's another problem too, and that's the everyday racism and/or spiteful childishness towards H and M in Britain that this white daughter of a British mom notices when she goes back to visit cousins. 10:55 from last night is typical of the hundreds of incredibly childish and hateful posts you'll find in the comments section of the Daily Mail ( , embarrassed that I sometimes read it). 10:55 is bad on so many dimensions that it's worth going back to read. As someone with a British parent and British relatives, I'm really disappointed in the British public and, obviously, in some juvenile Americans. This obviously isn't to say there's no racism or childish behavior in the US, because 10:55 definitely demonstrates it. It's just to say that whatever happened with Charles and William leaking to the tabloids, this banal, everyday racism and/or spiteful childishness also makes Britain a really inhospitable place for Harry and Meghan.

I don’t disagree with you it’s toxic. I just think reconciliation isn’t happening. These discussions never go anywhere and severing the relationship is better than this annual reviving of the past.

Britain may have casual racism issues, as does the US. There are many forums for making it better including non-profits and other organizations. A broken family relationship is not a productive forum.

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Anonymous wrote:It's just PR. If they really wanted to be with him, the King or Prince William would have gotten together with Harry the last two times he did the 14 hour flight to London. They did not.

Only polite pleasantries would be appropriate when interacting with family members who have shown they'll say anything to the media.

Camilla and William have shown they'll say (via "palace insiders" if necessary) anything to the media in return for positive coverage. Your point?

My point is I wouldn't trust any family member or "friend" who would go to the very public media and get paid for trashing me in a book and on television. Perhaps you are okay with that way of dealing with family. There's a reason Harry and Meghan don't have close family relationships.