Brave 09g rant

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The statements in OP are untrue! MV was not the 09 coach last year! Many of the 09 parents were actually upset because they wanted him to be more involved with their team too (having observed his coaching/success with his 10s team especially). And there are so many other non-factual statements ..(his teams do not play kick-ball). It’s true that he is not the best communicator with parents unless necessary - and most parents are ok with this because he is great with the players. The kids respond very well to him. He is a coach for the serious player who wants to advance, as he is a serious and very experienced coach. The stuff on this thread is a lot of BS .. just talk to the players and parents of the teams he actually coaches/ed ..they remain with him for a reason.

OP never said MV was the coach last year. He / she states that this is their first year with Brave. But if last years players wanted MV but still left what does that tell you. Other posters have said VYS plays direct transition soccer. I would equate that to close to kickball. I would also argue that anyone paying for ecnl is a serious players.

Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?

[Anonymous]

They have made so many poor decisions with this age group...instead of listening to the complaints they lost an entire team that started doing well in the spring of last year. Now they're starting over again and to be honest, it's questionable some of the players they took. Players who are fast without good decision making and ball control just can't compete in that league. I feel bad for the current roster...so much money invested not to mention time off from school and work to attend out of state games just for more losses. Don't get me started on guest players who can "save" a match... It's really very sad.

[Anonymous]

“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over. A remaining friend group then followed soon after well before the following years coaching slate was even announced.
There’s no question that the 09 experience was a mess but dynamics between the mix of players coming together on this team was problematic from early on and didn’t get any better once trapped players were added to the mix in Spring. It should have been handled better early on.
But MVs coaching and relationship with his players/teams is as strong as ever. LO is great and doing well with her teams too this year. Other than the 09s their BRAVE teams are all doing really well for a brand new club. Hopefully the addition of stronger players in the next year will change things around for the 09s too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over. A remaining friend group then followed soon after well before the following years coaching slate was even announced.
There’s no question that the 09 experience was a mess but dynamics between the mix of players coming together on this team was problematic from early on and didn’t get any better once trapped players were added to the mix in Spring. It should have been handled better early on.
But MVs coaching and relationship with his players/teams is as strong as ever. LO is great and doing well with her teams too this year. Other than the 09s their BRAVE teams are all doing really well for a brand new club. Hopefully the addition of stronger players in the next year will change things around for the 09s too.

The whole “brand new club” nonsense is absurd. By that logic, NVA is a first year club and Virginia Union is a 3rd year club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over. A remaining friend group then followed soon after well before the following years coaching slate was even announced.
There’s no question that the 09 experience was a mess but dynamics between the mix of players coming together on this team was problematic from early on and didn’t get any better once trapped players were added to the mix in Spring. It should have been handled better early on.
But MVs coaching and relationship with his players/teams is as strong as ever. LO is great and doing well with her teams too this year. Other than the 09s their BRAVE teams are all doing really well for a brand new club. Hopefully the addition of stronger players in the next year will change things around for the 09s too.

They announced the Brave coaching slate before the spring season even started, the week before ECNL tryouts opened. It's still on their IG page. The parents knew the coaching slate before the team fell apart, so this is a bit of revisionist history to fit the narrative.

There appears to be an expectation that an existing BRYC ECNL team augmented by VYS players who had previously chosen not to play ECNL would immediately be competitive. That's not fair expectation to any coach or program. The 10's and the 11's are the only teams with any advantage of both clubs leading and funneling to Brave. Give the coaches some time to build the program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over. A remaining friend group then followed soon after well before the following years coaching slate was even announced.
There’s no question that the 09 experience was a mess but dynamics between the mix of players coming together on this team was problematic from early on and didn’t get any better once trapped players were added to the mix in Spring. It should have been handled better early on.
But MVs coaching and relationship with his players/teams is as strong as ever. LO is great and doing well with her teams too this year. Other than the 09s their BRAVE teams are all doing really well for a brand new club. Hopefully the addition of stronger players in the next year will change things around for the 09s too.

They announced the Brave coaching slate before the spring season even started, the week before ECNL tryouts opened. It's still on their IG page. The parents knew the coaching slate before the team fell apart, so this is a bit of revisionist history to fit the narrative.

There appears to be an expectation that an existing BRYC ECNL team augmented by VYS players who had previously chosen not to play ECNL would immediately be competitive. That's not fair expectation to any coach or program. The 10's and the 11's are the only teams with any advantage of both clubs leading and funneling to Brave. Give the coaches some time to build the program.

Yes, and please give NVA and VA Union plenty of time as well, as they are new and we probably should throw VDA in there too, as I’m sure it’s been very challenging to add Herndon into the mix. Can’t forget about FCV! They added Barca 2 yrs ago. And Arlington switched from GA to ECNL 2 yrs ago…probably a big change for them too. So let’s just give them all plenty of time.

[Anonymous]

MV is still on the brave website

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over. A remaining friend group then followed soon after well before the following years coaching slate was even announced.
There’s no question that the 09 experience was a mess but dynamics between the mix of players coming together on this team was problematic from early on and didn’t get any better once trapped players were added to the mix in Spring. It should have been handled better early on.
But MVs coaching and relationship with his players/teams is as strong as ever. LO is great and doing well with her teams too this year. Other than the 09s their BRAVE teams are all doing really well for a brand new club. Hopefully the addition of stronger players in the next year will change things around for the 09s too.

They announced the Brave coaching slate before the spring season even started, the week before ECNL tryouts opened. It's still on their IG page. The parents knew the coaching slate before the team fell apart, so this is a bit of revisionist history to fit the narrative.

There appears to be an expectation that an existing BRYC ECNL team augmented by VYS players who had previously chosen not to play ECNL would immediately be competitive. That's not fair expectation to any coach or program. The 10's and the 11's are the only teams with any advantage of both clubs leading and funneling to Brave. Give the coaches some time to build the program.

Brave 09s last year did not take anyone or maybe only 1 or 2 players from the previous bryc ecnl team. It was almost entirely a VYS team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over. A remaining friend group then followed soon after well before the following years coaching slate was even announced.
There’s no question that the 09 experience was a mess but dynamics between the mix of players coming together on this team was problematic from early on and didn’t get any better once trapped players were added to the mix in Spring. It should have been handled better early on.
But MVs coaching and relationship with his players/teams is as strong as ever. LO is great and doing well with her teams too this year. Other than the 09s their BRAVE teams are all doing really well for a brand new club. Hopefully the addition of stronger players in the next year will change things around for the 09s too.

If the team was problematic early on, whose responsibility is it to fix it? This whole thread is another signal of ongoing problems. Who is going to fix it or should we believe MVs coaching and relationship is as strong as ever and things will magically change next year?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over. A remaining friend group then followed soon after well before the following years coaching slate was even announced.
There’s no question that the 09 experience was a mess but dynamics between the mix of players coming together on this team was problematic from early on and didn’t get any better once trapped players were added to the mix in Spring. It should have been handled better early on.
But MVs coaching and relationship with his players/teams is as strong as ever. LO is great and doing well with her teams too this year. Other than the 09s their BRAVE teams are all doing really well for a brand new club. Hopefully the addition of stronger players in the next year will change things around for the 09s too.

They announced the Brave coaching slate before the spring season even started, the week before ECNL tryouts opened. It's still on their IG page. The parents knew the coaching slate before the team fell apart, so this is a bit of revisionist history to fit the narrative.

There appears to be an expectation that an existing BRYC ECNL team augmented by VYS players who had previously chosen not to play ECNL would immediately be competitive. That's not fair expectation to any coach or program. The 10's and the 11's are the only teams with any advantage of both clubs leading and funneling to Brave. Give the coaches some time to build the program.

Yes, and please give NVA and VA Union plenty of time as well, as they are new and we probably should throw VDA in there too, as I’m sure it’s been very challenging to add Herndon into the mix. Can’t forget about FCV! They added Barca 2 yrs ago. And Arlington switched from GA to ECNL 2 yrs ago…probably a big change for them too. So let’s just give them all plenty of time.

VA Union is probably the only example that can be compared to Brave but even they had a very strong base to start from with the McLean program. Brave is basically starting from less than scratch. A Bryc club that was bleeding any decent players from as early as u9 and a VYS club that had lost many serious players by u11 to neighboring clubs. And all the younger age coaches are new to ECNL.

Brave will improve over time. MV is a good coach and VK and LO are learning under him. How much they improve is anyone’s guess but stop pretending that all of these situations are the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over. A remaining friend group then followed soon after well before the following years coaching slate was even announced.
There’s no question that the 09 experience was a mess but dynamics between the mix of players coming together on this team was problematic from early on and didn’t get any better once trapped players were added to the mix in Spring. It should have been handled better early on.
But MVs coaching and relationship with his players/teams is as strong as ever. LO is great and doing well with her teams too this year. Other than the 09s their BRAVE teams are all doing really well for a brand new club. Hopefully the addition of stronger players in the next year will change things around for the 09s too.

They announced the Brave coaching slate before the spring season even started, the week before ECNL tryouts opened. It's still on their IG page. The parents knew the coaching slate before the team fell apart, so this is a bit of revisionist history to fit the narrative.

There appears to be an expectation that an existing BRYC ECNL team augmented by VYS players who had previously chosen not to play ECNL would immediately be competitive. That's not fair expectation to any coach or program. The 10's and the 11's are the only teams with any advantage of both clubs leading and funneling to Brave. Give the coaches some time to build the program.

Yes, and please give NVA and VA Union plenty of time as well, as they are new and we probably should throw VDA in there too, as I’m sure it’s been very challenging to add Herndon into the mix. Can’t forget about FCV! They added Barca 2 yrs ago. And Arlington switched from GA to ECNL 2 yrs ago…probably a big change for them too. So let’s just give them all plenty of time.

VA Union is probably the only example that can be compared to Brave but even they had a very strong base to start from with the McLean program. Brave is basically starting from less than scratch. A Bryc club that was bleeding any decent players from as early as u9 and a VYS club that had lost many serious players by u11 to neighboring clubs. And all the younger age coaches are new to ECNL.

Brave will improve over time. MV is a good coach and VK and LO are learning under him. How much they improve is anyone’s guess but stop pretending that all of these situations are the same.

How did VYS lose serious players to neighboring clubs when the narrative is that they all loved MV and stayed with him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over. A remaining friend group then followed soon after well before the following years coaching slate was even announced.
There’s no question that the 09 experience was a mess but dynamics between the mix of players coming together on this team was problematic from early on and didn’t get any better once trapped players were added to the mix in Spring. It should have been handled better early on.
But MVs coaching and relationship with his players/teams is as strong as ever. LO is great and doing well with her teams too this year. Other than the 09s their BRAVE teams are all doing really well for a brand new club. Hopefully the addition of stronger players in the next year will change things around for the 09s too.

They announced the Brave coaching slate before the spring season even started, the week before ECNL tryouts opened. It's still on their IG page. The parents knew the coaching slate before the team fell apart, so this is a bit of revisionist history to fit the narrative.

There appears to be an expectation that an existing BRYC ECNL team augmented by VYS players who had previously chosen not to play ECNL would immediately be competitive. That's not fair expectation to any coach or program. The 10's and the 11's are the only teams with any advantage of both clubs leading and funneling to Brave. Give the coaches some time to build the program.

Yes, and please give NVA and VA Union plenty of time as well, as they are new and we probably should throw VDA in there too, as I’m sure it’s been very challenging to add Herndon into the mix. Can’t forget about FCV! They added Barca 2 yrs ago. And Arlington switched from GA to ECNL 2 yrs ago…probably a big change for them too. So let’s just give them all plenty of time.

VA Union is probably the only example that can be compared to Brave but even they had a very strong base to start from with the McLean program. Brave is basically starting from less than scratch. A Bryc club that was bleeding any decent players from as early as u9 and a VYS club that had lost many serious players by u11 to neighboring clubs. And all the younger age coaches are new to ECNL.

Brave will improve over time. MV is a good coach and VK and LO are learning under him. How much they improve is anyone’s guess but stop pretending that all of these situations are the same.

The club is controlled by the Mishalows and Dolanskys, same as it ever was.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over. A remaining friend group then followed soon after well before the following years coaching slate was even announced.
There’s no question that the 09 experience was a mess but dynamics between the mix of players coming together on this team was problematic from early on and didn’t get any better once trapped players were added to the mix in Spring. It should have been handled better early on.
But MVs coaching and relationship with his players/teams is as strong as ever. LO is great and doing well with her teams too this year. Other than the 09s their BRAVE teams are all doing really well for a brand new club. Hopefully the addition of stronger players in the next year will change things around for the 09s too.

They announced the Brave coaching slate before the spring season even started, the week before ECNL tryouts opened. It's still on their IG page. The parents knew the coaching slate before the team fell apart, so this is a bit of revisionist history to fit the narrative.

There appears to be an expectation that an existing BRYC ECNL team augmented by VYS players who had previously chosen not to play ECNL would immediately be competitive. That's not fair expectation to any coach or program. The 10's and the 11's are the only teams with any advantage of both clubs leading and funneling to Brave. Give the coaches some time to build the program.

Yes, and please give NVA and VA Union plenty of time as well, as they are new and we probably should throw VDA in there too, as I’m sure it’s been very challenging to add Herndon into the mix. Can’t forget about FCV! They added Barca 2 yrs ago. And Arlington switched from GA to ECNL 2 yrs ago…probably a big change for them too. So let’s just give them all plenty of time.

VA Union is probably the only example that can be compared to Brave but even they had a very strong base to start from with the McLean program. Brave is basically starting from less than scratch. A Bryc club that was bleeding any decent players from as early as u9 and a VYS club that had lost many serious players by u11 to neighboring clubs. And all the younger age coaches are new to ECNL.

Brave will improve over time. MV is a good coach and VK and LO are learning under him. How much they improve is anyone’s guess but stop pretending that all of these situations are the same.

How did VYS lose serious players to neighboring clubs when the narrative is that they all loved MV and stayed with him?

The youngest age vys kids dont even know who MV is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over. A remaining friend group then followed soon after well before the following years coaching slate was even announced.
There’s no question that the 09 experience was a mess but dynamics between the mix of players coming together on this team was problematic from early on and didn’t get any better once trapped players were added to the mix in Spring. It should have been handled better early on.
But MVs coaching and relationship with his players/teams is as strong as ever. LO is great and doing well with her teams too this year. Other than the 09s their BRAVE teams are all doing really well for a brand new club. Hopefully the addition of stronger players in the next year will change things around for the 09s too.

They announced the Brave coaching slate before the spring season even started, the week before ECNL tryouts opened. It's still on their IG page. The parents knew the coaching slate before the team fell apart, so this is a bit of revisionist history to fit the narrative.

There appears to be an expectation that an existing BRYC ECNL team augmented by VYS players who had previously chosen not to play ECNL would immediately be competitive. That's not fair expectation to any coach or program. The 10's and the 11's are the only teams with any advantage of both clubs leading and funneling to Brave. Give the coaches some time to build the program.

Yes, and please give NVA and VA Union plenty of time as well, as they are new and we probably should throw VDA in there too, as I’m sure it’s been very challenging to add Herndon into the mix. Can’t forget about FCV! They added Barca 2 yrs ago. And Arlington switched from GA to ECNL 2 yrs ago…probably a big change for them too. So let’s just give them all plenty of time.

VA Union is probably the only example that can be compared to Brave but even they had a very strong base to start from with the McLean program. Brave is basically starting from less than scratch. A Bryc club that was bleeding any decent players from as early as u9 and a VYS club that had lost many serious players by u11 to neighboring clubs. And all the younger age coaches are new to ECNL.

Brave will improve over time. MV is a good coach and VK and LO are learning under him. How much they improve is anyone’s guess but stop pretending that all of these situations are the same.

The club is controlled by the Mishalows and Dolanskys, same as it ever was.

From the 08’s-11’s, no one even knows those guys and they don’t make any of the decisions there. How many Bryc girls on those teams?

[Anonymous]

“Agree. If many 09 parents wanted MV involved more, why did almost all of them leave when he would be coaching their team the following year?”

“Because they wanted him to be involved immediately last year. Many parents wanted immediate change. 3 of the 09 players left to GF before the Spring season was even over.”

This is the best BS I’ve ever seen. “Because they wanted him to be involved immediately” If I had to pick one, I bet on issues w MV over players leaving mid season because he wasn’t involved immediately. This is good stuff.