Just accepting unequal division of labor

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McDonalds pp here. Didn't realize that post would get so much traction. I'm not privy to all the inner workings of that family's home, but I do know that my friend (the wife who got mad about the McDs) is the main cook in her family and that she eats fast food exactly never (very into clean eating) and complains about things like birthday parties having pizza but no fruit or veg to go with.

She's a kind person and can be fun, but nobody would ever call her laid back about anything, but especially food. Almond mom tendencies.

I think her issue was closer to "I handle all the cooking and the ONE time I don't, he feeds junk" vs. "he's in charge of half the meals and it's always junk."

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Anonymous wrote:What happens if you assign him a list of chores (doing the executive function piece for him) each night so it’s not just you sitting there catching up while he unwinds?

For me that’s the thing that would just be unacceptable.


“I’m tired, I need to watch tv. I had a long day. I didn’t sleep well again. I was up early, working.”


DP, but this. There is always an excuse.

A lot of this comes down to a game of chicken where my DH is willing to let a lot of things about our kids and our home get REALLY bad before he would step in and actually take the lead on them. And even then, he'd start with "Hey I noticed the kids fingernails are really long and dirty, we should probably do something about that" before actually doing anything -- "we" in this case means me.

I think I'd have to get like a terminal disease before he'd actually rouse himself to do a lot of this stuff, and even then I know he'd panic and be telling me that he just could never in a million years figure out how to sign our kids up for summer camp on his own, can I do it?

I think if I died, he'd get his mom to come live with him. But she's almost 80.

I can't die.


+1000 I think this is the crux of it for a lot of families (and I do not believe that ALL of these DHs have ADHD). I think women generally have higher standards for things like healthy meals, kid enrichment, clean and organized home.

So a lot of these men aren't shirking in their minds; they just think their wives should chill out more instead of they should be stepping up and doing more. And honestly? Sometimes they might be right. Sometimes.


Ok, then what’s a basic baseline for your house, yard, child-raising?

And should only one parent keep to the baseline or both? Or equal amounts of time at baseline and below baseline.

Let’s assume no above baseline so F nutrition, bedtimes, fancy ECs, and supplementing at home. Just let the Tiger Parents win that one.
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Anonymous wrote:What happens if you assign him a list of chores (doing the executive function piece for him) each night so it’s not just you sitting there catching up while he unwinds?

For me that’s the thing that would just be unacceptable.


“I’m tired, I need to watch tv. I had a long day. I didn’t sleep well again. I was up early, working.”


DP, but this. There is always an excuse.

A lot of this comes down to a game of chicken where my DH is willing to let a lot of things about our kids and our home get REALLY bad before he would step in and actually take the lead on them. And even then, he'd start with "Hey I noticed the kids fingernails are really long and dirty, we should probably do something about that" before actually doing anything -- "we" in this case means me.

I think I'd have to get like a terminal disease before he'd actually rouse himself to do a lot of this stuff, and even then I know he'd panic and be telling me that he just could never in a million years figure out how to sign our kids up for summer camp on his own, can I do it?

I think if I died, he'd get his mom to come live with him. But she's almost 80.

I can't die.


+1000 I think this is the crux of it for a lot of families (and I do not believe that ALL of these DHs have ADHD). I think women generally have higher standards for things like healthy meals, kid enrichment, clean and organized home. So a lot of these men aren't shirking in their minds; they just think their wives should chill out more instead of they should be stepping up and doing more. And honestly? Sometimes they might be right. Sometimes.


I'm the PP and while sometimes this is true, it's also true that men wield that "sometimes" as a weapon against their wives. It is very easy to say "you should just chill, the dishes can be done later" and "you should just chill, the kids don't need baths EVERY night" and "you should just chill, it's okay if Larlo is a little behind in math, he'll catch up" and "you should just chill, that rotting step on the back deck isn't that big of a deal -- we'll get to it eventually" and "you should just chill, we don't have to plan out our whole summer in January, camps surely don't fill up that fast," and "you should just chill, of course Larla can go to school today, it's probably just a cold," and so on and so on and son on.

A dynamic where a mom who worries about anything at all is "uptight" and has standards that are "too high" will always be an unequal dynamic, no matter how many things that mom decides to "just chill" on because her DH is using the dynamic to ensure he never has to do anything or worry about anything. He's relying on his wife to be NOT chill, and make sure that step gets fixed and research math tutors online and create a bath schedule so the kids don't go got school filthy, and know that actually, yeah, camps do fill up by February so you need to get on it, and Carla does not just have a cold since she's running a fever and can barely get out of bed so one of you (mom, obviously, since she's the not chill one) needs to stay home to take care of her. And the not chill mom will do all the stuff all while being told she's a helicopter mom and she worries to much. And DH gets to be soooooo chill and relaxed and roll his eyes at mom, sometimes in front of the kids and other parents. Lol, moms, amiright? They worry so much for no reason.


All of this. And he gets to be Fun Daddy while making her look bad. This dynamic is a marriage killer.


The house is a royal mess if I’m gone on even a 48 hour work trip.
No rules, kids devolve, homework isn’t done nor turned in, soccer cleats missing, spouse says everything is great. It was so peaceful and nice doing nothing but eating takeout and watching tv from 5-9pm with the kids.
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Ignorance is indeed bliss.
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Anonymous wrote:Sorry. I have no advice because I’m in the same boat. I have accepted that my DH must have executive dysfunction.

I’m a stay at home mom, so it’s A LOT more manageable than your situation, but it still sucks. I’m literally never off the clock. I think I’m working harder than ever. It’s sad that I actually prefer when he’s at work because when he’s home I’m just constantly picking up after him. He leaves dirty clothes, dirty diapers, dirty dishes scattered all over the house. He doesn’t even follow our baby’s schedule when he’s with her after work and on the evenings, making my life even harder.

Somehow he doesn’t see when the dishwasher needs to be loaded or emptied, when the dogs need water, when the refrigerator needs to be cleaned out, when the counters need to be wiped down, when the trash needs to be taken out, when laundry needs to be done or just put away, when bottles need to be washed, when the diaper bag needs to be stocked, when literally anything needs to be done. On the rare occasion he has done a load of laundry he has left it in the washer for days (he’s done this multiple times). Oh, and this week. (And too many weeks to count) he failed to bring the trash to the street. Out of pure laziness. I also do every single night waking.

I’m trying so hard to be the perfect wife and mother for him. Dinner on the table when he gets home. He even has the nerve to ask me to make his lunch in the morning while I’m caring for myself, our two dogs, and our baby.

He tells me to tell him what to do, like, hello!? Open your eyes!? I tried telling him that this is more mental work for me. He just doesn’t get it and I don’t think he ever will. Other times when I do ask him, he tells me he’s too tired (I’m tired too!) or that he will get to it later (Surprise, later never comes). Lately I’ve been fantasizing about separating/divorcing.


Do calendar alerts work for him? With the trash, for example, I assume it's collected the same day every week. So the night before, would a calendar alert to tell him to take it to the curb help? And then the day of, another calendar alert to bring it in.

Not trying to be unsympathetic, I wouldn't survive your situation, it's just that the trash thing made me think because my husband is in charge of it but there are calendar alerts that help me when he's away on trash day because it isn't otherwise on my radar at all.


I have my phone alarm set to let me know it is trash night. Same for kids bringing instruments to school, taking pills, etc. It saves me EVERY time. And I am a successful professional, but just ADD.
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Anonymous wrote:What happens if you assign him a list of chores (doing the executive function piece for him) each night so it’s not just you sitting there catching up while he unwinds?

For me that’s the thing that would just be unacceptable.


“I’m tired, I need to watch tv. I had a long day. I didn’t sleep well again. I was up early, working.”


DP, but this. There is always an excuse.

A lot of this comes down to a game of chicken where my DH is willing to let a lot of things about our kids and our home get REALLY bad before he would step in and actually take the lead on them. And even then, he'd start with "Hey I noticed the kids fingernails are really long and dirty, we should probably do something about that" before actually doing anything -- "we" in this case means me.

I think I'd have to get like a terminal disease before he'd actually rouse himself to do a lot of this stuff, and even then I know he'd panic and be telling me that he just could never in a million years figure out how to sign our kids up for summer camp on his own, can I do it?

I think if I died, he'd get his mom to come live with him. But she's almost 80.

I can't die.


+1000 I think this is the crux of it for a lot of families (and I do not believe that ALL of these DHs have ADHD). I think women generally have higher standards for things like healthy meals, kid enrichment, clean and organized home.

So a lot of these men aren't shirking in their minds; they just think their wives should chill out more instead of they should be stepping up and doing more. And honestly? Sometimes they might be right. Sometimes.


Ok, then what’s a basic baseline for your house, yard, child-raising?

And should only one parent keep to the baseline or both? Or equal amounts of time at baseline and below baseline.

Let’s assume no above baseline so F nutrition, bedtimes, fancy ECs, and supplementing at home. Just let the Tiger Parents win that one.


It's interesting to me that people will write this dynamic off as "well she just has higher standards, that's not his fault" but WHY do so many women have higher standards of cleanliness, nutrition, organization, timeliness, etc., than their husbands? This explanation acts as though women collectively are just unrealistic about what needs to be done or how well it has to be done, but what if, as a society, we just decided to live down to the standards of all these men? What would society look like? Dirty houses, kids late for school 3/5 days, no vacations because nothing gets planned, meals mostly fast food or whatever can be thrown together last minute, schools bare bones and no fundraising or extra programming because no PTA at all (be honest, what percent of your PTA is men versus women, and what percent of the men are there WITH their wives and not in instead of them), and so on.

Like it's easy to roll our eyes at women and say "ugh, chill out, your standards are too high." But then we all collectively benefit from women who decided that the bare minimum wasn't good enough. Do you REALLY want to live in a world designed by a man who thinks most things can be put off or not done at all if it means he gets to spend more time playing video games?
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Anonymous wrote:I really appreciated the long post from 9:39. Especially this part, which is what my DH is lacking:

"Third, my parents raised me to internalize the idea that if others are working, you shouldn't be sitting on your a@@ watching. I teach my kids the same thing. If I am clearing the table, they damn well better be helping, unless they are doing homework or something like that. OP's DH needs to accept that that is the case. No one relaxes until everyone relaxes."


Have you raised it with your DH? What does he say?

I think it is an important lesson for kids for life success, both for their relationships and their work life. Kids imitate what they see at home.


100%

My kids will call their dad out if they see him sitting on the couch while I'm cleaning the kitchen. (They've never seen me sitting on the couch while he is doing something...). He's pretty good about doing his fair share but sometimes has an "I'll get to it later" attitude that just doesn't work because it means in reality I'll end up doing it.
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Anonymous wrote:You two sit together and make a pact to be intentionally kind, fair and helpful. No keeping scores, just try to be a good team.


DP. Yeah, tried that. Just does not work with someone with weak executive function. Structure works. Good intentions do not.


Good intentions make all the difference, structure only helps execute them. Unless one understands and feels genuinely concerned about unfairly overburdening their partner, nothing would change.


So for the first time in their life they will simply *feel* bad for dumping on their wife and suddenly function like a true adult??!!

Ok.


No. Thats why you date and live with one you intend to share a life, kids, home, finances and chores with. You make informed decision of if they'll make a caring partner or not. You may decide their shortcomings are worth it or not.
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Anonymous wrote:What happens if you assign him a list of chores (doing the executive function piece for him) each night so it’s not just you sitting there catching up while he unwinds?

For me that’s the thing that would just be unacceptable.


“I’m tired, I need to watch tv. I had a long day. I didn’t sleep well again. I was up early, working.”


DP, but this. There is always an excuse.

A lot of this comes down to a game of chicken where my DH is willing to let a lot of things about our kids and our home get REALLY bad before he would step in and actually take the lead on them. And even then, he'd start with "Hey I noticed the kids fingernails are really long and dirty, we should probably do something about that" before actually doing anything -- "we" in this case means me.

I think I'd have to get like a terminal disease before he'd actually rouse himself to do a lot of this stuff, and even then I know he'd panic and be telling me that he just could never in a million years figure out how to sign our kids up for summer camp on his own, can I do it?

I think if I died, he'd get his mom to come live with him. But she's almost 80.

I can't die.


+1000 I think this is the crux of it for a lot of families (and I do not believe that ALL of these DHs have ADHD). I think women generally have higher standards for things like healthy meals, kid enrichment, clean and organized home.

So a lot of these men aren't shirking in their minds; they just think their wives should chill out more instead of they should be stepping up and doing more. And honestly? Sometimes they might be right. Sometimes.


Ok, then what’s a basic baseline for your house, yard, child-raising?

And should only one parent keep to the baseline or both? Or equal amounts of time at baseline and below baseline.

Let’s assume no above baseline so F nutrition, bedtimes, fancy ECs, and supplementing at home. Just let the Tiger Parents win that one.


It's interesting to me that people will write this dynamic off as "well she just has higher standards, that's not his fault" but WHY do so many women have higher standards of cleanliness, nutrition, organization, timeliness, etc., than their husbands? This explanation acts as though women collectively are just unrealistic about what needs to be done or how well it has to be done, but what if, as a society, we just decided to live down to the standards of all these men? What would society look like? Dirty houses, kids late for school 3/5 days, no vacations because nothing gets planned, meals mostly fast food or whatever can be thrown together last minute, schools bare bones and no fundraising or extra programming because no PTA at all (be honest, what percent of your PTA is men versus women, and what percent of the men are there WITH their wives and not in instead of them), and so on.

Like it's easy to roll our eyes at women and say "ugh, chill out, your standards are too high." But then we all collectively benefit from women who decided that the bare minimum wasn't good enough. Do you REALLY want to live in a world designed by a man who thinks most things can be put off or not done at all if it means he gets to spend more time playing video games?


You lost me at no vacations.
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Anonymous wrote:What happens if you assign him a list of chores (doing the executive function piece for him) each night so it’s not just you sitting there catching up while he unwinds?

For me that’s the thing that would just be unacceptable.


“I’m tired, I need to watch tv. I had a long day. I didn’t sleep well again. I was up early, working.”


DP, but this. There is always an excuse.

A lot of this comes down to a game of chicken where my DH is willing to let a lot of things about our kids and our home get REALLY bad before he would step in and actually take the lead on them. And even then, he'd start with "Hey I noticed the kids fingernails are really long and dirty, we should probably do something about that" before actually doing anything -- "we" in this case means me.

I think I'd have to get like a terminal disease before he'd actually rouse himself to do a lot of this stuff, and even then I know he'd panic and be telling me that he just could never in a million years figure out how to sign our kids up for summer camp on his own, can I do it?

I think if I died, he'd get his mom to come live with him. But she's almost 80.

I can't die.


+1000 I think this is the crux of it for a lot of families (and I do not believe that ALL of these DHs have ADHD). I think women generally have higher standards for things like healthy meals, kid enrichment, clean and organized home.

So a lot of these men aren't shirking in their minds; they just think their wives should chill out more instead of they should be stepping up and doing more. And honestly? Sometimes they might be right. Sometimes.


Ok, then what’s a basic baseline for your house, yard, child-raising?

And should only one parent keep to the baseline or both? Or equal amounts of time at baseline and below baseline.

Let’s assume no above baseline so F nutrition, bedtimes, fancy ECs, and supplementing at home. Just let the Tiger Parents win that one.


It's interesting to me that people will write this dynamic off as "well she just has higher standards, that's not his fault" but WHY do so many women have higher standards of cleanliness, nutrition, organization, timeliness, etc., than their husbands? This explanation acts as though women collectively are just unrealistic about what needs to be done or how well it has to be done, but what if, as a society, we just decided to live down to the standards of all these men? What would society look like? Dirty houses, kids late for school 3/5 days, no vacations because nothing gets planned, meals mostly fast food or whatever can be thrown together last minute, schools bare bones and no fundraising or extra programming because no PTA at all (be honest, what percent of your PTA is men versus women, and what percent of the men are there WITH their wives and not in instead of them), and so on.

Like it's easy to roll our eyes at women and say "ugh, chill out, your standards are too high." But then we all collectively benefit from women who decided that the bare minimum wasn't good enough. Do you REALLY want to live in a world designed by a man who thinks most things can be put off or not done at all if it means he gets to spend more time playing video games?


You lost me at no vacations.


If my family only took vacations my DH planned we would take no vacations. You might think that's trivial, but most families regardless of income view downtime and vacation time as very important for family bonding and connection. People will roll their eyes at the mom who complains that she has to do it on her own, but it's thankless -- figuring out where to go, reading reviews and price comparisons, booking accommodations and travel, figuring out itineraries. It's not this meaningless, frivolous thing that moms do for fun. Unless you have a huge budget, planning an executing family vacations can actually be a massive chore that you do entirely for the benefit of your family and not for yourself.
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Anonymous wrote:Sorry. I have no advice because I’m in the same boat. I have accepted that my DH must have executive dysfunction.

I’m a stay at home mom, so it’s A LOT more manageable than your situation, but it still sucks. I’m literally never off the clock. I think I’m working harder than ever. It’s sad that I actually prefer when he’s at work because when he’s home I’m just constantly picking up after him. He leaves dirty clothes, dirty diapers, dirty dishes scattered all over the house. He doesn’t even follow our baby’s schedule when he’s with her after work and on the evenings, making my life even harder.

Somehow he doesn’t see when the dishwasher needs to be loaded or emptied, when the dogs need water, when the refrigerator needs to be cleaned out, when the counters need to be wiped down, when the trash needs to be taken out, when laundry needs to be done or just put away, when bottles need to be washed, when the diaper bag needs to be stocked, when literally anything needs to be done. On the rare occasion he has done a load of laundry he has left it in the washer for days (he’s done this multiple times). Oh, and this week. (And too many weeks to count) he failed to bring the trash to the street. Out of pure laziness. I also do every single night waking.

I’m trying so hard to be the perfect wife and mother for him. Dinner on the table when he gets home. He even has the nerve to ask me to make his lunch in the morning while I’m caring for myself, our two dogs, and our baby.

He tells me to tell him what to do, like, hello!? Open your eyes!? I tried telling him that this is more mental work for me. He just doesn’t get it and I don’t think he ever will. Other times when I do ask him, he tells me he’s too tired (I’m tired too!) or that he will get to it later (Surprise, later never comes). Lately I’ve been fantasizing about separating/divorcing.


Do calendar alerts work for him? With the trash, for example, I assume it's collected the same day every week. So the night before, would a calendar alert to tell him to take it to the curb help? And then the day of, another calendar alert to bring it in.

Not trying to be unsympathetic, I wouldn't survive your situation, it's just that the trash thing made me think because my husband is in charge of it but there are calendar alerts that help me when he's away on trash day because it isn't otherwise on my radar at all.


I have my phone alarm set to let me know it is trash night. Same for kids bringing instruments to school, taking pills, etc. It saves me EVERY time. And I am a successful professional, but just ADD.


Yeah we had to put one in for Flush the Toilet for him. And for Throw out Opened Amazon Packaging. And another for Take Wallet home from Office and Out of Car.

His mom should be damn proud.

He just tunes them out, lists, post its, digital alarms, all become background noise quickly .
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Anonymous wrote:What happens if you assign him a list of chores (doing the executive function piece for him) each night so it’s not just you sitting there catching up while he unwinds?

For me that’s the thing that would just be unacceptable.


“I’m tired, I need to watch tv. I had a long day. I didn’t sleep well again. I was up early, working.”


DP, but this. There is always an excuse.

A lot of this comes down to a game of chicken where my DH is willing to let a lot of things about our kids and our home get REALLY bad before he would step in and actually take the lead on them. And even then, he'd start with "Hey I noticed the kids fingernails are really long and dirty, we should probably do something about that" before actually doing anything -- "we" in this case means me.

I think I'd have to get like a terminal disease before he'd actually rouse himself to do a lot of this stuff, and even then I know he'd panic and be telling me that he just could never in a million years figure out how to sign our kids up for summer camp on his own, can I do it?

I think if I died, he'd get his mom to come live with him. But she's almost 80.

I can't die.


+1000 I think this is the crux of it for a lot of families (and I do not believe that ALL of these DHs have ADHD). I think women generally have higher standards for things like healthy meals, kid enrichment, clean and organized home.

So a lot of these men aren't shirking in their minds; they just think their wives should chill out more instead of they should be stepping up and doing more. And honestly? Sometimes they might be right. Sometimes.


Ok, then what’s a basic baseline for your house, yard, child-raising?

And should only one parent keep to the baseline or both? Or equal amounts of time at baseline and below baseline.

Let’s assume no above baseline so F nutrition, bedtimes, fancy ECs, and supplementing at home. Just let the Tiger Parents win that one.


It's interesting to me that people will write this dynamic off as "well she just has higher standards, that's not his fault" but WHY do so many women have higher standards of cleanliness, nutrition, organization, timeliness, etc., than their husbands? This explanation acts as though women collectively are just unrealistic about what needs to be done or how well it has to be done, but what if, as a society, we just decided to live down to the standards of all these men? What would society look like? Dirty houses, kids late for school 3/5 days, no vacations because nothing gets planned, meals mostly fast food or whatever can be thrown together last minute, schools bare bones and no fundraising or extra programming because no PTA at all (be honest, what percent of your PTA is men versus women, and what percent of the men are there WITH their wives and not in instead of them), and so on.

Like it's easy to roll our eyes at women and say "ugh, chill out, your standards are too high." But then we all collectively benefit from women who decided that the bare minimum wasn't good enough. Do you REALLY want to live in a world designed by a man who thinks most things can be put off or not done at all if it means he gets to spend more time playing video games?


+100
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Anonymous wrote:You two sit together and make a pact to be intentionally kind, fair and helpful. No keeping scores, just try to be a good team.


DP. Yeah, tried that. Just does not work with someone with weak executive function. Structure works. Good intentions do not.


Good intentions make all the difference, structure only helps execute them. Unless one understands and feels genuinely concerned about unfairly overburdening their partner, nothing would change.


So for the first time in their life they will simply *feel* bad for dumping on their wife and suddenly function like a true adult??!!

Ok.


No. Thats why you date and live with one you intend to share a life, kids, home, finances and chores with. You make informed decision of if they'll make a caring partner or not. You may decide their shortcomings are worth it or not.


Lol.

As if living in an apartment and working until 7pm with a male who owns 5 shirts, 3 trousers, and a subway pass is any indication of how he will deal with a needy kid, 4 Br house and yard, 4 people’s work, school and sports schedules, and two sets of grandparents.

Yeah. Keep not processing that answer everytime someone answers your exact question.
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Anonymous wrote:You two sit together and make a pact to be intentionally kind, fair and helpful. No keeping scores, just try to be a good team.


DP. Yeah, tried that. Just does not work with someone with weak executive function. Structure works. Good intentions do not.


Good intentions make all the difference, structure only helps execute them. Unless one understands and feels genuinely concerned about unfairly overburdening their partner, nothing would change.


So for the first time in their life they will simply *feel* bad for dumping on their wife and suddenly function like a true adult??!!

Ok.


No. Thats why you date and live with one you intend to share a life, kids, home, finances and chores with. You make informed decision of if they'll make a caring partner or not. You may decide their shortcomings are worth it or not.


Lol.

As if living in an apartment and working until 7pm with a male who owns 5 shirts, 3 trousers, and a subway pass is any indication of how he will deal with a needy kid, 4 Br house and yard, 4 people’s work, school and sports schedules, and two sets of grandparents.

Yeah. Keep not processing that answer everytime someone answers your exact question.

+1. For some reason there is a subset of DCUMers who NEED to believe you can accurately predict what kind of husband and father a man will be mid-career based on what kind of bachelor and boyfriend he was early career. It’s obviously asinine if you just think about it a tiny bit.

My husband used to plan and cook for large dinner parties as a bachelor in grad school. Now he can barely make himself toast.
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I haven’t read all these responses but get your DH on ADHD meds ASAP!
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