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McDonalds pp here. Didn't realize that post would get so much traction. I'm not privy to all the inner workings of that family's home, but I do know that my friend (the wife who got mad about the McDs) is the main cook in her family and that she eats fast food exactly never (very into clean eating) and complains about things like birthday parties having pizza but no fruit or veg to go with.
She's a kind person and can be fun, but nobody would ever call her laid back about anything, but especially food. Almond mom tendencies. I think her issue was closer to "I handle all the cooking and the ONE time I don't, he feeds junk" vs. "he's in charge of half the meals and it's always junk." |
Ok, then what’s a basic baseline for your house, yard, child-raising? And should only one parent keep to the baseline or both? Or equal amounts of time at baseline and below baseline. Let’s assume no above baseline so F nutrition, bedtimes, fancy ECs, and supplementing at home. Just let the Tiger Parents win that one. |
The house is a royal mess if I’m gone on even a 48 hour work trip. No rules, kids devolve, homework isn’t done nor turned in, soccer cleats missing, spouse says everything is great. It was so peaceful and nice doing nothing but eating takeout and watching tv from 5-9pm with the kids. |
| Ignorance is indeed bliss. |
I have my phone alarm set to let me know it is trash night. Same for kids bringing instruments to school, taking pills, etc. It saves me EVERY time. And I am a successful professional, but just ADD. |
It's interesting to me that people will write this dynamic off as "well she just has higher standards, that's not his fault" but WHY do so many women have higher standards of cleanliness, nutrition, organization, timeliness, etc., than their husbands? This explanation acts as though women collectively are just unrealistic about what needs to be done or how well it has to be done, but what if, as a society, we just decided to live down to the standards of all these men? What would society look like? Dirty houses, kids late for school 3/5 days, no vacations because nothing gets planned, meals mostly fast food or whatever can be thrown together last minute, schools bare bones and no fundraising or extra programming because no PTA at all (be honest, what percent of your PTA is men versus women, and what percent of the men are there WITH their wives and not in instead of them), and so on. Like it's easy to roll our eyes at women and say "ugh, chill out, your standards are too high." But then we all collectively benefit from women who decided that the bare minimum wasn't good enough. Do you REALLY want to live in a world designed by a man who thinks most things can be put off or not done at all if it means he gets to spend more time playing video games? |
100% My kids will call their dad out if they see him sitting on the couch while I'm cleaning the kitchen. (They've never seen me sitting on the couch while he is doing something...). He's pretty good about doing his fair share but sometimes has an "I'll get to it later" attitude that just doesn't work because it means in reality I'll end up doing it. |
No. Thats why you date and live with one you intend to share a life, kids, home, finances and chores with. You make informed decision of if they'll make a caring partner or not. You may decide their shortcomings are worth it or not. |
You lost me at no vacations.
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If my family only took vacations my DH planned we would take no vacations. You might think that's trivial, but most families regardless of income view downtime and vacation time as very important for family bonding and connection. People will roll their eyes at the mom who complains that she has to do it on her own, but it's thankless -- figuring out where to go, reading reviews and price comparisons, booking accommodations and travel, figuring out itineraries. It's not this meaningless, frivolous thing that moms do for fun. Unless you have a huge budget, planning an executing family vacations can actually be a massive chore that you do entirely for the benefit of your family and not for yourself. |
Yeah we had to put one in for Flush the Toilet for him. And for Throw out Opened Amazon Packaging. And another for Take Wallet home from Office and Out of Car. His mom should be damn proud. He just tunes them out, lists, post its, digital alarms, all become background noise quickly . |
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Lol. As if living in an apartment and working until 7pm with a male who owns 5 shirts, 3 trousers, and a subway pass is any indication of how he will deal with a needy kid, 4 Br house and yard, 4 people’s work, school and sports schedules, and two sets of grandparents. Yeah. Keep not processing that answer everytime someone answers your exact question. |
+1. For some reason there is a subset of DCUMers who NEED to believe you can accurately predict what kind of husband and father a man will be mid-career based on what kind of bachelor and boyfriend he was early career. It’s obviously asinine if you just think about it a tiny bit. My husband used to plan and cook for large dinner parties as a bachelor in grad school. Now he can barely make himself toast. |
| I haven’t read all these responses but get your DH on ADHD meds ASAP! |