How does your redshirted kid feel now that she/he is older?

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Anonymous wrote:Loves it. Probably one of the best decisions we ever made for her (August 18th birthday with September 1st cutoff). I was sent on time (October 22nd- cutoff was Dec 31 where I grew up) and HATED it. So that made our decision easier.


Seriously? How did you all caps HATE this? Get a grip.


One of my friends from HS is a November birthday (male) who was sent on time (Dec 31 cutoff) and very much struggled socially and would absolutely redshirt a fall bday based on his experience.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a dog in this fight (my kids have winter birthdays) but its pretty obvious that the anti-redshirt parents have some weird axe to grind. Obviously they think it negatively affects their own child somehow.


With a winter birthday it's a non-issue for you so why are you posting on it. People holding back impact the kids not being held back.


No it doesn’t. They are being taight same grade level material as the other kids in the class. If they are “smarter” it is bc their IQ is higher or their parents supplement at home- which parents of any kid can do, redshirted or not
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DC felt older, taller and out of place.
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The boy across the street was redshirted. He's now in 7th grade and is older than my DS who is in 8th grade. It's a good fit for the neighbor boy. He's among the tall-ish boys in his grade and is in advanced classes (ie, one grade level ahead, on par with my DS). He's also socially awkward - but what MS boy isn't - so the delayed year has been good for him socially.

My own MS boy probably would have benefitted from red-shirting. He hasn't hit puberty in 8th grade, is shorter for his grade, and is also socially awkward and going into HS next year. He'll be fine but he also would have been fine if he were in the grade below.
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Anonymous wrote:She won’t be older by much. Kids in June and July are redshirted here. It will be a non issue.

No, they are not.
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Anonymous wrote:In my DD's friend group (9th grade) there are 4 girls who are redshirted. No one cares.

My observation as a parent of a teenager with ADHD - redshirting your kid will help. After about 3rd grade, my son was 6 - 18 months behind in the executive functioning elements. Middle school through the beginning of 11th grade was really hard as all the conversations were about completing homework and things that were not done in class. Now at the end of 11th grade I have a kid who has survived a lot of challenges - and I wish it did not need to be that hard for him. He is really smart - but our school is not about being smart - it is about delivering assignments the way the teachers want them.


Kids care and talk. Don't kid yourself.


DP - not at all. I have 4 kids - Redshirting is so common these days. Kids don’t care. If a student repeats 4th grade or something, it will be noticed


Yes, they do care and talk about it.


Not in my experience. My son is a redshirted summer birthday, like so many of his friends. It's their normal.


But are you in DCPS, which OP is?


I have an older child who was redshirted, do you?


I have kids going through the school system that OP’s daughter will be in. I have not seen one child redshirted in all of my children’s classes so far, and that’s hundreds of kids. DCPS does not do redshirting like all of the suburban school districts. Kids WILL assume she’s one of the younger summer birthdays, like every other child in the grade with the same birthday month will be. I’m not saying that will be a problem socially, but it’s something for OP to be aware of. All of the replies saying it’s totally normal and common just don’t apply to OP as long as she’s in DC schools.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/996642.page

And my kids have winter birthdays thankfully. I have zero dog in this fight, so no need to get defensive. i replied just to point out to OP what the norm is where she’s moving.


You’ve literally gone and somehow checked the birthdays/years of these random (by your admission) HUNDREDS of kids? That’s weird AF and you need to get a life…


Small schools where kids know each other. Not that hard. They post the birthdays on the wall in early elementary, and kids talk. Plus the constant barrage of birthday party invites.


Oh are you the one who has the very young short boy who was too short for the carnival rides and it was the redshirted kids problem? Or the kid who can't shine in school soccer because classmates are older? We get it. You hate your private school, but that's a you problem.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a dog in this fight (my kids have winter birthdays) but its pretty obvious that the anti-redshirt parents have some weird axe to grind. Obviously they think it negatively affects their own child somehow.


With a winter birthday it's a non-issue for you so why are you posting on it. People holding back impact the kids not being held back.


No it doesn’t. They are being taight same grade level material as the other kids in the class. If they are “smarter” it is bc their IQ is higher or their parents supplement at home- which parents of any kid can do, redshirted or not


You are wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:Loves it. Probably one of the best decisions we ever made for her (August 18th birthday with September 1st cutoff). I was sent on time (October 22nd- cutoff was Dec 31 where I grew up) and HATED it. So that made our decision easier.


Seriously? How did you all caps HATE this? Get a grip.


One of my friends from HS is a November birthday (male) who was sent on time (Dec 31 cutoff) and very much struggled socially and would absolutely redshirt a fall bday based on his experience.


Exact same for my older brother with a November birthday. He went to K at 4 and never fit in with his peers and played with kids a grade behind. He never did well in school and it was a struggle. He's doing well in life now mostly because he married a woman with a huge trust fund. In comparison, my Nov born husband was held back and was very successful in school, college, and beyond, and I didn't bring a trust fund to the marriage.
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Anonymous wrote:In my DD's friend group (9th grade) there are 4 girls who are redshirted. No one cares.

My observation as a parent of a teenager with ADHD - redshirting your kid will help. After about 3rd grade, my son was 6 - 18 months behind in the executive functioning elements. Middle school through the beginning of 11th grade was really hard as all the conversations were about completing homework and things that were not done in class. Now at the end of 11th grade I have a kid who has survived a lot of challenges - and I wish it did not need to be that hard for him. He is really smart - but our school is not about being smart - it is about delivering assignments the way the teachers want them.


Kids care and talk. Don't kid yourself.


DP - not at all. I have 4 kids - Redshirting is so common these days. Kids don’t care. If a student repeats 4th grade or something, it will be noticed


Yes, they do care and talk about it.


Not in my experience. My son is a redshirted summer birthday, like so many of his friends. It's their normal.


But are you in DCPS, which OP is?


I have an older child who was redshirted, do you?


I have kids going through the school system that OP’s daughter will be in. I have not seen one child redshirted in all of my children’s classes so far, and that’s hundreds of kids. DCPS does not do redshirting like all of the suburban school districts. Kids WILL assume she’s one of the younger summer birthdays, like every other child in the grade with the same birthday month will be. I’m not saying that will be a problem socially, but it’s something for OP to be aware of. All of the replies saying it’s totally normal and common just don’t apply to OP as long as she’s in DC schools.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/996642.page

And my kids have winter birthdays thankfully. I have zero dog in this fight, so no need to get defensive. i replied just to point out to OP what the norm is where she’s moving.


You’ve literally gone and somehow checked the birthdays/years of these random (by your admission) HUNDREDS of kids? That’s weird AF and you need to get a life…


Small schools where kids know each other. Not that hard. They post the birthdays on the wall in early elementary, and kids talk. Plus the constant barrage of birthday party invites.


Oh are you the one who has the very young short boy who was too short for the carnival rides and it was the redshirted kids problem? Or the kid who can't shine in school soccer because classmates are older? We get it. You hate your private school, but that's a you problem.


No, I'm the PP in DCPS that has kids with winter birthdays. Tall girls that don't play soccer. I feel confident, based on our experience in DCPS, that OP's kid would be an anomaly in DCPS (if it was even allowed, I think 99% likely the principal would just say no), but I also don't think kids would care once they knew.

OP, if you want specifics, I just looked at my current first grader's class and there are 5 of 18 kids that have August and September birthdays (so 6 for all of first grade), and 4 of 14 in last year's kindergarten class. Even if/when the school makes her go on time, she won't be alone and will have a cohort of similarly aged kids. There were also a couple of October birthdays both years (so would be 2 months younger than yours). Either way, it will be fine and she'll have peers in her class.
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DCPS parent here again. OP, if you're still reading, you may want to start a new thread in the DCPS forum asking for feedback from parents of older kids. What part of the city are you moving to? My guess is that IF there are parents that redshirt in DCPS, it's going to be limited to families in Ward 3. The draw of universal pre-K is just too enticing for the rest of us that don't want to pay for that additional two years of daycare.
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My July birthday DD started kindergarten after turning 6. She just graduated from college: magna cum laude with honors in her major, varsity athlete and team captain, and a member of the sorority with the highest GPA. In the fall, she will start work at a job in her major field in a city she loves. Most important, she is kind, warm, confident, curious, and able to speak truth to power. She has a wonderful group of friends from high school and from college. We have absolutely no regrets for "redshirting" her.
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Anonymous wrote:In my DD's friend group (9th grade) there are 4 girls who are redshirted. No one cares.

My observation as a parent of a teenager with ADHD - redshirting your kid will help. After about 3rd grade, my son was 6 - 18 months behind in the executive functioning elements. Middle school through the beginning of 11th grade was really hard as all the conversations were about completing homework and things that were not done in class. Now at the end of 11th grade I have a kid who has survived a lot of challenges - and I wish it did not need to be that hard for him. He is really smart - but our school is not about being smart - it is about delivering assignments the way the teachers want them.


Kids care and talk. Don't kid yourself.


DP - not at all. I have 4 kids - Redshirting is so common these days. Kids don’t care. If a student repeats 4th grade or something, it will be noticed


It's common in families like yours where you have too many kids to meet their individual needs so you take the easy road vs. the best for the child road. Maybe you young kids don't care but it gets pretty obvious when a senior is 19 all of senior year. Or, a 16 year old freshman is driving.


Huh. My redshirted summer boy will be 18 all senior year just like his non redshirted sister with a September birthday. Same thing.


So, he turns 19 prior to going to college. He should be 18 going to college.


Says who? That's not a real rule.


Normal is to go at 18, except if you were held back. You held your child back so their "normal" timeline has artificially changed.

I'm a professor.

I think you have an outdated view of college, and/or just aren't familiar with the college landscape in the year 2023. Things are so fluid 'nowadays.' Remember, it is a minority of students who fall into the traditional, residential category (e.g., those who enroll immediately after high school and live in a dorm). Loads of people start college in their 20s, 30s, or later. Even among "traditional" freshmen, it is so common to take a gap year these days that "normal is to go at 18" is just outdated. There are states that have cutoffs of 8/1, there are students who come from overseas where cutoffs are entirely different, etc. It's really, really not this cut and dry thing you want to make it out to be.
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My D's best friend is redshirted HS sophomore. More into drinking scene than I would expect at this age.
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The only mild concern I have is with girls, possibly starting their periods early. My friend growing up (YES, holding back/redshirting was a thing almost 40 years ago too!) was redshirted with a late spring birthday, I think May or June, and she started her period when she was in 5th grade at 11. Which is a typical age to start but not sure how well the elementary school was prepared for it. But it’s probably different these days with puberty happening earlier in general.
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I really wish all the anti-red shirting posters would drop the pretense of concern for the welfare of others’ redshirted children and just be honest: you are concerned about your own non-redshirted kids having to compete in school and later in life with redshirted kids, whom you perceive to have an advantage.

Your concern is reasonable. They probably do have an advantage. It’s so tiresome and pathetic to see all these posts about kids being bored, how awful it will be to drive before your peers, etc.

Just own your concern that the redshirting trend is leading to inequality.
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