Idaho Murder Suspect Bryan Kohberger - arrest warrant affadavit

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Anonymous wrote:Eight pages blaming a traumatized 20 year old girl. Why don't you all focus on the man who brutally murdered four people.

No one is blaming her for what happened. We are rightfully questioning why she didn't call for help immediately. It's a fair and interesting question. If you don't want to discuss it then move along.

I think your question has been answered, many times over now. So perhaps you can move along.

We’ll see

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Anonymous wrote:Note to self: no large group homes for DD in college.

Honestly, this is a freak occurrence. Random killings like this are exceedingly rare. The person most likely to harm your DD would be her significant other, or someone else she knows.

I don't want random men she doesn't know traipsing through the house at 4am and no one thinking this is weird at all, per so many people on this thread. No thanks. A dorm, or an apartment with 1-2 roomates max.

Lol those 1-2 roommates will do what they want. Good luck, PP. Godspeed.

You do understand that not all college females are the same, right? None of my college roomates had "random" guys sleep over. There wasn't a ton of sleeping over at all, and when there was, they were boyfriends. Not randoms.

But how do you vet this?

Each subsequent time I found new housing in college, most of the females didn’t have boyfriends AT THE TIME, yet every year they did by spring.

And you let random people sleep on your couch because it’s better than the alternative. You don’t seek them out, it happens.

I was a goody two shoes and it happened. You have this utopian idea of how you are going to control your adult daughters adult roommates, but you won’t. Maybe expensive single housing will be best for her.

You are really upset about this! All I said was I don't want her in large group housing. Easy enough to avoid. And yes her expenses will be covered.

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Anonymous wrote:Eight pages blaming a traumatized 20 year old girl. Why don't you all focus on the man who brutally murdered four people.

I don't see a lot of blaming, really. Just a lot of middle-aged people who've forgotten what life was like in their early 20's.

Some of us haven't "forgotten" - we actually didn't live like that so some of this is really eye opening what people consider normal behavior.

I find it hard to believe that you never encountered this type of living arrangement in college. I mean, I lived in this type of house, but I also knew people who lived in an apartment with just 1-2 roommates, some who lived in dorms all 4 years, a few who had their own apartments, some who lived at home with their parents etc. None of it was "eye-opening" to me.

I knew people who lived in group houses. I didn't sleep over there and I didn't know it was normal for randos to be walking down the hallway at 4am.

So because you didn’t experience it, it didn’t happen. It’s the DCUM way! Never mind all of us telling you we experienced it. You didn’t so it couldn’t be true!

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Anonymous wrote:Eight pages blaming a traumatized 20 year old girl. Why don't you all focus on the man who brutally murdered four people.

I don't see a lot of blaming, really. Just a lot of middle-aged people who've forgotten what life was like in their early 20's.

Some of us haven't "forgotten" - we actually didn't live like that so some of this is really eye opening what people consider normal behavior.

I find it hard to believe that you never encountered this type of living arrangement in college. I mean, I lived in this type of house, but I also knew people who lived in an apartment with just 1-2 roommates, some who lived in dorms all 4 years, a few who had their own apartments, some who lived at home with their parents etc. None of it was "eye-opening" to me.

I knew people who lived in group houses. I didn't sleep over there and I didn't know it was normal for randos to be walking down the hallway at 4am.

So because you didn’t experience it, it didn’t happen. It’s the DCUM way! Never mind all of us telling you we experienced it. You didn’t so it couldn’t be true!

Please tell me where I said it didn't happen? I said it was eye-opening.

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Anonymous wrote:Note to self: no large group homes for DD in college.

Honestly, this is a freak occurrence. Random killings like this are exceedingly rare. The person most likely to harm your DD would be her significant other, or someone else she knows.

I don't want random men she doesn't know traipsing through the house at 4am and no one thinking this is weird at all, per so many people on this thread. No thanks. A dorm, or an apartment with 1-2 roomates max.

Lol those 1-2 roommates will do what they want. Good luck, PP. Godspeed.

You do understand that not all college females are the same, right? None of my college roomates had "random" guys sleep over. There wasn't a ton of sleeping over at all, and when there was, they were boyfriends. Not randoms.

But how do you vet this?

Each subsequent time I found new housing in college, most of the females didn’t have boyfriends AT THE TIME, yet every year they did by spring.
I’m not upset about it, you’re just being naive. You/she will have no say in what her roommates do. Full stop.
And you let random people sleep on your couch because it’s better than the alternative. You don’t seek them out, it happens.

I was a goody two shoes and it happened. You have this utopian idea of how you are going to control your adult daughters adult roommates, but you won’t. Maybe expensive single housing will be best for her.

You are really upset about this! All I said was I don't want her in large group housing. Easy enough to avoid. And yes her expenses will be covered.

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Anonymous wrote:Eight pages blaming a traumatized 20 year old girl. Why don't you all focus on the man who brutally murdered four people.

I don't see a lot of blaming, really. Just a lot of middle-aged people who've forgotten what life was like in their early 20's.

Some of us haven't "forgotten" - we actually didn't live like that so some of this is really eye opening what people consider normal behavior.

I find it hard to believe that you never encountered this type of living arrangement in college. I mean, I lived in this type of house, but I also knew people who lived in an apartment with just 1-2 roommates, some who lived in dorms all 4 years, a few who had their own apartments, some who lived at home with their parents etc. None of it was "eye-opening" to me.

I knew people who lived in group houses. I didn't sleep over there and I didn't know it was normal for randos to be walking down the hallway at 4am.

Maybe not normal, but not something that would lead another roommate to freak out, or do anything more than lock her door and pass out after a night of drinking.

You have to keep context in mind- this was 4 am after a night of drinking in a college group house, not 3 pm on a Tuesday afternoon in a house in Arlington.

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Anonymous wrote:Eight pages blaming a traumatized 20 year old girl. Why don't you all focus on the man who brutally murdered four people.

I don't see a lot of blaming, really. Just a lot of middle-aged people who've forgotten what life was like in their early 20's.

Some of us haven't "forgotten" - we actually didn't live like that so some of this is really eye opening what people consider normal behavior.

I find it hard to believe that you never encountered this type of living arrangement in college. I mean, I lived in this type of house, but I also knew people who lived in an apartment with just 1-2 roommates, some who lived in dorms all 4 years, a few who had their own apartments, some who lived at home with their parents etc. None of it was "eye-opening" to me.

I knew people who lived in group houses. I didn't sleep over there and I didn't know it was normal for randos to be walking down the hallway at 4am.

So because you didn’t experience it, it didn’t happen. It’s the DCUM way! Never mind all of us telling you we experienced it. You didn’t so it couldn’t be true!

Please tell me where I said it didn't happen? I said it was eye-opening.

Let’s get back on track please and discuss the case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Eight pages blaming a traumatized 20 year old girl. Why don't you all focus on the man who brutally murdered four people.

I don't see a lot of blaming, really. Just a lot of middle-aged people who've forgotten what life was like in their early 20's.

Some of us haven't "forgotten" - we actually didn't live like that so some of this is really eye opening what people consider normal behavior.

I find it hard to believe that you never encountered this type of living arrangement in college. I mean, I lived in this type of house, but I also knew people who lived in an apartment with just 1-2 roommates, some who lived in dorms all 4 years, a few who had their own apartments, some who lived at home with their parents etc. None of it was "eye-opening" to me.

I knew people who lived in group houses. I didn't sleep over there and I didn't know it was normal for randos to be walking down the hallway at 4am.

Maybe not normal, but not something that would lead another roommate to freak out, or do anything more than lock her door and pass out after a night of drinking.

You have to keep context in mind- this was 4 am after a night of drinking in a college group house, not 3 pm on a Tuesday afternoon in a house in Arlington.

How graphic can we get? Could nobody have screamed because their throats were slashed in silence as they slept, and thus no screaming for the surviving to hear? They heard thumps, but thought it a dog. So maybe when she saw him leave she DID just think it was another random person just leaving. No reason to suspect violence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Eight pages blaming a traumatized 20 year old girl. Why don't you all focus on the man who brutally murdered four people.

I don't see a lot of blaming, really. Just a lot of middle-aged people who've forgotten what life was like in their early 20's.

Some of us haven't "forgotten" - we actually didn't live like that so some of this is really eye opening what people consider normal behavior.

I find it hard to believe that you never encountered this type of living arrangement in college. I mean, I lived in this type of house, but I also knew people who lived in an apartment with just 1-2 roommates, some who lived in dorms all 4 years, a few who had their own apartments, some who lived at home with their parents etc. None of it was "eye-opening" to me.

I knew people who lived in group houses. I didn't sleep over there and I didn't know it was normal for randos to be walking down the hallway at 4am.

So because you didn’t experience it, it didn’t happen. It’s the DCUM way! Never mind all of us telling you we experienced it. You didn’t so it couldn’t be true!

Please tell me where I said it didn't happen? I said it was eye-opening.

Let’s get back on track please and discuss the case.

We've already discussed all that is known. That's why its so easy to get off topic.

[Anonymous]

Btw, if you google "idaho college murders" pretty much every headline has to do with the shocking eyewitness that was previously not known. So we aren't the only ones who find that the most interesting bit.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow. The surviving roommate heard and saw the suspect leave. A shame.

Sounds like solid DNA evidence.

This blows my mind. She also heard crying? I assume she was the one who called 911.

I'm also struck by the suspect's attorney?/family? saying he expects to be exonerated. I realize that was a few days ago, but coming to the realization that your immediate family probably did this has got to shake you to your foundation.

If she was the one who called 911, she waited 12 hours to do it.

That's the part I can't get over. I read somewhere else that the wait was because she was drunk under 21 and was scared. There was also speculation that the reason DM called a friend first before 911 was to get contraband out of the house.

It's baffling and understandable all at the same time. 20 year olds are stupid. They made dumb decisions and especially at UoI where the police are pretty hard on underage possession charges.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, if you google "idaho college murders" pretty much every headline has to do with the shocking eyewitness that was previously not known. So we aren't the only ones who find that the most interesting bit.

Yes, but mainly because her description was startlingly accurate and therefore damning.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, if you google "idaho college murders" pretty much every headline has to do with the shocking eyewitness that was previously not known. So we aren't the only ones who find that the most interesting bit.

It makes me happy because I'm SO sick of seeing people online talking about how the Moscow PD had no idea what they were doing, blah, blah, blah. Egg on their faces. They knew exactly what they were doing. They kept leaks contained and kept everything close to the vest. They let it get out that there were no witnesses to keep BK from spooking. They kept saying they were looking for the white car while already knowing exactly where the car was the whole time and having it under surveillance.

The keyboard detectives need to give it a rest and go back to trying to solve cold cases. Leave the active ones to those who are trained.

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What do we all think the link between BK and whoever he initially targeted in the house is?

Why was he obsessed with killing HER/THEM specifically? He didn’t even go to college there. Was he hanging out in their college town as opposed to his own and she scoffed him?

Was he handing out in Idaho as opposed to Washington because he would be unknown there and he just randomly selected her to stalk?

I’m so interested in the motive now.

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Anonymous wrote:Btw, if you google "idaho college murders" pretty much every headline has to do with the shocking eyewitness that was previously not known. So we aren't the only ones who find that the most interesting bit.

It makes me happy because I'm SO sick of seeing people online talking about how the Moscow PD had no idea what they were doing, blah, blah, blah. Egg on their faces. They knew exactly what they were doing. They kept leaks contained and kept everything close to the vest. They let it get out that there were no witnesses to keep BK from spooking. They kept saying they were looking for the white car while already knowing exactly where the car was the whole time and having it under surveillance.

The keyboard detectives need to give it a rest and go back to trying to solve cold cases. Leave the active ones to those who are trained.

I bet they wanted to see what he’d do with the car, if anything. He was being watched, so I’m sure he incriminated himself.