Governor Glenn Youngkin Calls for Attorney General Jason Miyares to Investigate the Leadership of Th

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Anonymous wrote:“Equal outcomes for every student without exception” is an impossible goal. Some are smarter, some more athletic, some artistic, some work harder.

That was a terrible thing to do to the students who earned their award.

I agree. I am disgusted to hear “equal outcome for every student without exception.” It’s not only ridiculous it’s evil. When the former superintendent proposed a “merit lottery” for TJ’s admission process, I thought the stupidity would never be surpassed, I was wrong. Now we’ll have “equal outcome” for our kids. Does anyone here expect “equal outcome” for your own kids?

It's not "evil." It's a goal. It's rhetorical. It's aspirational.

Anyone who thinks in terms of that somehow costing their own child something is just a despicable piece of human garbage. Imagine being told this and your first concern is "WHAT ABOUT *MY* CHILD? *MY* CHILD IS SPECIAL."

I mean, that's such a twisted and diseased way of thinking.

DP, but we'd be better off if more people took care of their own kids first and stopped expecting government to engineer "equal outcomes" for all.

And lofty aspirations and slogans are no substitute for competent leadership, as illustrated by the ongoing decline of FCPS.

+1 I don't have a kid at TJ but I am so sick of seeing achievement swept under the rug. Honor rolls used to be celebrated with an assembly or announcement. Now certificates, if they give one, is just dropped on kids' desks. This was happening prior to covid. What's wrong with letting those know they're doing great and to keep on going?

I hear they want to do away with NHS sashes at graduation. Is this true?

They stopped doing assemblies for National Merit Achievements at TJ because no one came and it was a waste of time, energy and resources.

Just about every single TJ alum who engages with this story is:

1) Furious at TJ at the start because they mistakenly think that we're talking about Semifinalists

2) Annoyed at Asra once they realize that the status in question is one that no one at TJ cares about.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Equal outcomes for every student without exception” is an impossible goal. Some are smarter, some more athletic, some artistic, some work harder.

That was a terrible thing to do to the students who earned their award.

I agree. I am disgusted to hear “equal outcome for every student without exception.” It’s not only ridiculous it’s evil. When the former superintendent proposed a “merit lottery” for TJ’s admission process, I thought the stupidity would never be surpassed, I was wrong. Now we’ll have “equal outcome” for our kids. Does anyone here expect “equal outcome” for your own kids?

It's not "evil." It's a goal. It's rhetorical. It's aspirational.

Anyone who thinks in terms of that somehow costing their own child something is just a despicable piece of human garbage. Imagine being told this and your first concern is "WHAT ABOUT *MY* CHILD? *MY* CHILD IS SPECIAL."

I mean, that's such a twisted and diseased way of thinking.

DP, but we'd be better off if more people took care of their own kids first and stopped expecting government to engineer "equal outcomes" for all.

And lofty aspirations and slogans are no substitute for competent leadership, as illustrated by the ongoing decline of FCPS.

+1 I don't have a kid at TJ but I am so sick of seeing achievement swept under the rug. Honor rolls used to be celebrated with an assembly or announcement. Now certificates, if they give one, is just dropped on kids' desks. This was happening prior to covid. What's wrong with letting those know they're doing great and to keep on going?

I hear they want to do away with NHS sashes at graduation. Is this true?

More proof that these posters have no idea what they’re talking about. TJ only gives service hour cords for graduation. These kids do amazing things; being a national merit finalist (let alone the unimportant commended scholar) does not register as an achievement for these kids.

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To clarify, they don’t give any other coeds or sashes out.

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Anonymous wrote:No good comes from forcing diversity.

Funny how Asians thrive at standardized testing, and a certain other group calls them culturally biased!

For the life of me I never could figure out what’s biased about Math, Science and English.

What does diversity have to do with slightly late NM commended certificates?

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“We want to recognize students for who they are as individuals, not focus on their achievements”

Isn’t achievements that we make a part of who we are?

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if any AOs are watching this mess play out and thinking that they want nothing to do with anyone coming from the TJ dumpster fire

Why would they conflate hard-working, intelligent teens with MAGA shills like Asra?

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So he thinks grades should be merit based not race based, what a concept!!

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Thank you Gov. Youngkin.

This is overt racism. Period. You can recognize students for who they are without penalizing others.

The investigation--if found to be as reported, should punish administrators both professionally and personally, including paying damages to those effected, and revoke all teaching and administrative credentials, ensuring they cannot punish students ever again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you Gov. Youngkin.

This is overt racism. Period. You can recognize students for who they are without penalizing others.

The investigation--if found to be as reported, should punish administrators both professionally and personally, including paying damages to those effected, and revoke all teaching and administrative credentials, ensuring they cannot punish students ever again.

Are you saying that it was asian students who just scored commendable?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thank you Gov. Youngkin.

This is overt racism. Period. You can recognize students for who they are without penalizing others.

The investigation--if found to be as reported, should punish administrators both professionally and personally, including paying damages to those effected, and revoke all teaching and administrative credentials, ensuring they cannot punish students ever again.

Are you saying that it was asian students who just scored commendable?

Yes, it's downright racist to forget to hand out these notices for a week. Well, maybe if by racist, you mean absent-minded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you Gov. Youngkin.

This is overt racism. Period. You can recognize students for who they are without penalizing others.

The investigation--if found to be as reported, should punish administrators both professionally and personally, including paying damages to those effected, and revoke all teaching and administrative credentials, ensuring they cannot punish students ever again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Equity needs to be dissolved throughout our country. The focus should be on equality.

This is full on ridiculous. Equality means giving every single child the same thing REGARDLESS of their need. Children deserve to get what the NEED to succeed. Not everyone is starting from the same place.

This is coming from an Asian mother of a child at TJ.

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Let's change the word 'student' for the word 'athlete'. “We want to recognize ATHLETES for who they are as individuals, not focus on their achievements.” Should the NBA have equal outcomes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Equal outcomes for every student without exception” is an impossible goal. Some are smarter, some more athletic, some artistic, some work harder.

That was a terrible thing to do to the students who earned their award.

I agree. I am disgusted to hear “equal outcome for every student without exception.” It’s not only ridiculous it’s evil. When the former superintendent proposed a “merit lottery” for TJ’s admission process, I thought the stupidity would never be surpassed, I was wrong. Now we’ll have “equal outcome” for our kids. Does anyone here expect “equal outcome” for your own kids?

It's not "evil." It's a goal. It's rhetorical. It's aspirational.

Anyone who thinks in terms of that somehow costing their own child something is just a despicable piece of human garbage. Imagine being told this and your first concern is "WHAT ABOUT *MY* CHILD? *MY* CHILD IS SPECIAL."

I mean, that's such a twisted and diseased way of thinking.

DP, but we'd be better off if more people took care of their own kids first and stopped expecting government to engineer "equal outcomes" for all.

And lofty aspirations and slogans are no substitute for competent leadership, as illustrated by the ongoing decline of FCPS.

Education is a public good. It's good for the public to have equally good outcomes. I swear to God, you people with your provincial thinking. How is society served if our schools have suboptimal outcomes? You want to talk about evil? Look at people like you and your revolting way of thinking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No good comes from forcing diversity.

Funny how Asians thrive at standardized testing, and a certain other group calls them culturally biased!

For the life of me I never could figure out what’s biased about Math, Science and English.

You must not be very bright, then. There's plenty of bias in the way math, science and English are taught and tested. Plenty of it. Look at the word problems, for example. For years there was bias in terms of who is good enough to learn these subjects (still is).

Here's a pretty simple explainer, though, of cultural bias in testing: https://study.com/learn/lesson/test-bias-types-examples-cultural.html

This assumes you actually want to correct your ignorance on the subject. If you wish to remain willfully ignorant, I can't help you. But perhaps you should sit the rest of this conversation out since you have nothing of value to share.