Governor Glenn Youngkin Calls for Attorney General Jason Miyares to Investigate the Leadership of Th

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Taking out all the feelings, here are the facts:
1. TJ was sent letters to distribute to students by the National Merit Corp. Letters were dated September.
2. National Merit Corp didn’t put enough postage on TJ package.
3. Letters were received at TJ mid October.
4. TJ principal signed letters mid October (within 48 hrs of receipt)
5. Students received letters on Nov 14.

TJ administration didn’t do their job in a timely manner - pure and simple. They failed and frankly they should have known better. The letters arrive at TJ every year and someone should have been asking where they were/why weren’t they distributed. IMO they should have been distributed right when they were signed.

DC goes to TJ. I wonder how the same administration would like it when DC turns in an assignment a month late - oh wait. They don’t take it well. They tell DC tough luck and deal with the consequences. Now they have to deal the consequences of their “late” work. What’s good for the goose…

So what? This is truly a minor matter, not worthy of a state investigation by the Attorney General.

I'm so, so tired of GOP grievance politics. And they now are going to destroy one of the shining stars of the state of Virginia - a school which for years and years has been acknowledged as the best public high school in the whole country. I guess it's part of their plan to discredit and ultimately defund public education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course but everything involving TJ in recent years seems highly political - either Democrats making changes to TJ to try and improve their standing with Black and Hispanic voters or the Republicans pushing back to try and gain more Asian voters. The culture wars get tiring and meanwhile the things that matter to the majority of people without kids at TJ get ignored.

Not just the majority of people without kids at TJ, the majority of people who learn and work at TJ too. Both sides in this culture war represent small but annoyingly loud minorities within TJ. Your average TJ student/staff member/parent really would rather skip the politics, and understandably so.

[Anonymous]

The part that caught my eye in Youngkin's statement was this:

"I believe this failure may have caused material harm to those students and their parents, and that this failure may have violated the Virginia Human Rights Act."

I wasn't familiar with the Virginia Human Rights Act, so I looked it up. Here's the text. The relevant section is this:

"It is the policy of the Commonwealth to... [s]afeguard all individuals within the Commonwealth from unlawful discrimination because of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, pregnancy, childbirth or related medical conditions, age, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity, military status, or disability in places of public accommodation, including educational institutions and in real estate transactions"

What does this have to do with students not receiving awards? Is there any evidence tying the issue to one of these categories?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Taking out all the feelings, here are the facts:
1. TJ was sent letters to distribute to students by the National Merit Corp. Letters were dated September.
2. National Merit Corp didn’t put enough postage on TJ package.
3. Letters were received at TJ mid October.
4. TJ principal signed letters mid October (within 48 hrs of receipt)
5. Students received letters on Nov 14.

TJ administration didn’t do their job in a timely manner - pure and simple. They failed and frankly they should have known better. The letters arrive at TJ every year and someone should have been asking where they were/why weren’t they distributed. IMO they should have been distributed right when they were signed.

DC goes to TJ. I wonder how the same administration would like it when DC turns in an assignment a month late - oh wait. They don’t take it well. They tell DC tough luck and deal with the consequences. Now they have to deal the consequences of their “late” work. What’s good for the goose…

The accusation is that the principal said he didn't want to distribute the letters because students would feel left out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn't there some crime somewhere in VA that Miyares could actually fight? Is there no fraud, abuse, embezzlement happening in VA now? No toxic dumping or telephone scams?

There was witness tampering uncovered in Loudoun, but the grand jury decided there actually was no crime in Virginia of witness tampering, or at least one that fit the facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taking out all the feelings, here are the facts:
1. TJ was sent letters to distribute to students by the National Merit Corp. Letters were dated September.
2. National Merit Corp didn’t put enough postage on TJ package.
3. Letters were received at TJ mid October.
4. TJ principal signed letters mid October (within 48 hrs of receipt)
5. Students received letters on Nov 14.

TJ administration didn’t do their job in a timely manner - pure and simple. They failed and frankly they should have known better. The letters arrive at TJ every year and someone should have been asking where they were/why weren’t they distributed. IMO they should have been distributed right when they were signed.

DC goes to TJ. I wonder how the same administration would like it when DC turns in an assignment a month late - oh wait. They don’t take it well. They tell DC tough luck and deal with the consequences. Now they have to deal the consequences of their “late” work. What’s good for the goose…

The accusation is that the principal said he didn't want to distribute the letters because students would feel left out.

Don’t believe that is correct. My unset is they normally issue these as certificates rather than an assembly or some other big fan fare to avoid over focusing on it. But usually the certificates go out. This year someone messed up and the fact that someone messed up has been admitted already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taking out all the feelings, here are the facts:
1. TJ was sent letters to distribute to students by the National Merit Corp. Letters were dated September.
2. National Merit Corp didn’t put enough postage on TJ package.
3. Letters were received at TJ mid October.
4. TJ principal signed letters mid October (within 48 hrs of receipt)
5. Students received letters on Nov 14.

TJ administration didn’t do their job in a timely manner - pure and simple. They failed and frankly they should have known better. The letters arrive at TJ every year and someone should have been asking where they were/why weren’t they distributed. IMO they should have been distributed right when they were signed.

DC goes to TJ. I wonder how the same administration would like it when DC turns in an assignment a month late - oh wait. They don’t take it well. They tell DC tough luck and deal with the consequences. Now they have to deal the consequences of their “late” work. What’s good for the goose…

The accusation is that the principal said he didn't want to distribute the letters because students would feel left out.

It's clear you missed the point when you can't even remember that the principal is a woman. In any case, the "left out" thing was regarding how the letters were distributed, not avoiding giving them out altogether.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The part that caught my eye in Youngkin's statement was this:

"I believe this failure may have caused material harm to those students and their parents, and that this failure may have violated the Virginia Human Rights Act."

I wasn't familiar with the Virginia Human Rights Act, so I looked it up. Here's the text. The relevant section is this:

"It is the policy of the Commonwealth to... [s]afeguard all individuals within the Commonwealth from unlawful discrimination because of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, pregnancy, childbirth or related medical conditions, age, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity, military status, or disability in places of public accommodation, including educational institutions and in real estate transactions"

What does this have to do with students not receiving awards? Is there any evidence tying the issue to one of these categories?

None.
But someone of the peopl manufacturing outrage on this are alleging this accidental delay mistake was done to maliciously impact students that are largely Asian (because most kids at TJ are Asian). It’s ridiculous

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The part that caught my eye in Youngkin's statement was this:

"I believe this failure may have caused material harm to those students and their parents, and that this failure may have violated the Virginia Human Rights Act."

I wasn't familiar with the Virginia Human Rights Act, so I looked it up. Here's the text. The relevant section is this:

"It is the policy of the Commonwealth to... [s]afeguard all individuals within the Commonwealth from unlawful discrimination because of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, pregnancy, childbirth or related medical conditions, age, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity, military status, or disability in places of public accommodation, including educational institutions and in real estate transactions"

What does this have to do with students not receiving awards? Is there any evidence tying the issue to one of these categories?

None.
But someone of the peopl manufacturing outrage on this are alleging this accidental delay mistake was done to maliciously impact students that are largely Asian (because most kids at TJ are Asian). It’s ridiculous

It’s beyond absurd. WTAF?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The part that caught my eye in Youngkin's statement was this:

"I believe this failure may have caused material harm to those students and their parents, and that this failure may have violated the Virginia Human Rights Act."

I wasn't familiar with the Virginia Human Rights Act, so I looked it up. Here's the text. The relevant section is this:

"It is the policy of the Commonwealth to... [s]afeguard all individuals within the Commonwealth from unlawful discrimination because of race, color, religion, national origin, sex, pregnancy, childbirth or related medical conditions, age, marital status, sexual orientation, gender identity, military status, or disability in places of public accommodation, including educational institutions and in real estate transactions"

What does this have to do with students not receiving awards? Is there any evidence tying the issue to one of these categories?

None.
But someone of the peopl manufacturing outrage on this are alleging this accidental delay mistake was done to maliciously impact students that are largely Asian (because most kids at TJ are Asian). It’s ridiculous

Not a lawyer, but that makes no sense. Just because the kids happened to be mostly Asian doesn't mean they were racially discriminating. It has to be targeted. If they withheld everyone's certificates at the same time, it's not racially targeted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The accusation is that the principal said he didn't want to distribute the letters because students would feel left out.

Correction, the accusation is that this was said by Kosatka, the Director of Student Services.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taking out all the feelings, here are the facts:
1. TJ was sent letters to distribute to students by the National Merit Corp. Letters were dated September.
2. National Merit Corp didn’t put enough postage on TJ package.
3. Letters were received at TJ mid October.
4. TJ principal signed letters mid October (within 48 hrs of receipt)
5. Students received letters on Nov 14.

TJ administration didn’t do their job in a timely manner - pure and simple. They failed and frankly they should have known better. The letters arrive at TJ every year and someone should have been asking where they were/why weren’t they distributed. IMO they should have been distributed right when they were signed.

DC goes to TJ. I wonder how the same administration would like it when DC turns in an assignment a month late - oh wait. They don’t take it well. They tell DC tough luck and deal with the consequences. Now they have to deal the consequences of their “late” work. What’s good for the goose…

So what? This is truly a minor matter, not worthy of a state investigation by the Attorney General.

I'm so, so tired of GOP grievance politics. And they now are going to destroy one of the shining stars of the state of Virginia - a school which for years and years has been acknowledged as the best public high school in the whole country. I guess it's part of their plan to discredit and ultimately defund public education.

TJ was sometimes rated as the top school in the country before the admissions changes rammed through by Democrats in 2020. It would almost surely lose that ranking once the test scores for the Class of 2025 and later classes are avails and analyzed.

Further, if you really thought TJ otherwise was the top school in the country, it could withstand an investigation that likely would lead to no more than the replacement of two current administrators, if found to have engaged in misconduct. After all, TJ principals have come and gone before, as have directors of student services.

In short, I think there’s a lot of projection in your post, not to mention drama.

[Anonymous]

Please also investigate Asra and what she knew when she was PTSA president.

Question her son to see if she truly ONLY learned of his 2020 commended status a few weeks ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taking out all the feelings, here are the facts:
1. TJ was sent letters to distribute to students by the National Merit Corp. Letters were dated September.
2. National Merit Corp didn’t put enough postage on TJ package.
3. Letters were received at TJ mid October.
4. TJ principal signed letters mid October (within 48 hrs of receipt)
5. Students received letters on Nov 14.

TJ administration didn’t do their job in a timely manner - pure and simple. They failed and frankly they should have known better. The letters arrive at TJ every year and someone should have been asking where they were/why weren’t they distributed. IMO they should have been distributed right when they were signed.

DC goes to TJ. I wonder how the same administration would like it when DC turns in an assignment a month late - oh wait. They don’t take it well. They tell DC tough luck and deal with the consequences. Now they have to deal the consequences of their “late” work. What’s good for the goose…

So what? This is truly a minor matter, not worthy of a state investigation by the Attorney General.

I'm so, so tired of GOP grievance politics. And they now are going to destroy one of the shining stars of the state of Virginia - a school which for years and years has been acknowledged as the best public high school in the whole country. I guess it's part of their plan to discredit and ultimately defund public education.

TJ was sometimes rated as the top school in the country before the admissions changes rammed through by Democrats in 2020. It would almost surely lose that ranking once the test scores for the Class of 2025 and later classes are avails and analyzed.

Further, if you really thought TJ otherwise was the top school in the country, it could withstand an investigation that likely would lead to no more than the replacement of two current administrators, if found to have engaged in misconduct. After all, TJ principals have come and gone before, as have directors of student services.

In short, I think there’s a lot of projection in your post, not to mention drama.

1. This is not a screwup on the level of the Loudoun issues. It was a timing mistake. That is not worth firing the principal and staff member that accidentally messed up. People are not really calling for their heads about this. It is just an excuse to get rid of them because people are still mad about the admission change FCPS did.

2. My kid is there now. I do not care if TJ is no longer the #1 HS in the country. What I want is for her to get a ton out of this experience, learn a lot, spread her wings but also ENJOY high school. If it needs to be the #10 HS in the country so that kids actually enjoy their time there that is a good trade off.

2.

[Anonymous]

Governor Youngkin Directs Virginia AG to Investigate Thomas Jefferson High School for Discriminating in Name of Equity.

Virginia governor Glenn Youngkin formally directed the state’s attorney general Jason Miyares to investigate allegations of academic discrimination at Thomas Jefferson High School in Alexandria on Tuesday.

Youngkin’s request comes in response to a series of reports which suggest that school administrators delayed the announcement of National Merit commendations for Asian students as part of a racial-equity push.

https://news.yahoo.com/governor-youngkin-directs-virginia-ag-193503387.html