Governor Glenn Youngkin Calls for Attorney General Jason Miyares to Investigate the Leadership of Th

[Anonymous]

Thank you Gov Youngkin - precisely why we voted for you. Keep up the good work!

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Anonymous wrote:Thank you Gov Youngkin - precisely why we voted for you. Keep up the good work!

Plus one million.

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Anonymous wrote:No good comes from forcing diversity.

Funny how Asians thrive at standardized testing, and a certain other group calls them culturally biased!

For the life of me I never could figure out what’s biased about Math, Science and English.

You must not be very bright, then. There's plenty of bias in the way math, science and English are taught and tested. Plenty of it. Look at the word problems, for example. For years there was bias in terms of who is good enough to learn these subjects (still is).

Here's a pretty simple explainer, though, of cultural bias in testing: https://study.com/learn/lesson/test-bias-types-examples-cultural.html

This assumes you actually want to correct your ignorance on the subject. If you wish to remain willfully ignorant, I can't help you. But perhaps you should sit the rest of this conversation out since you have nothing of value to share.

Asians are NOT complaining English is 'biased'. In fact, they are doing better than white students on average and most of them are upper lower to middle class. How come Asian students (some of them immigrants from non-English speaking countries) are doing as well or better than white students? GTFOH.

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Anonymous wrote:“Equal outcomes for every student without exception” is an impossible goal. Some are smarter, some more athletic, some artistic, some work harder.

That was a terrible thing to do to the students who earned their award.

I agree. I am disgusted to hear “equal outcome for every student without exception.” It’s not only ridiculous it’s evil. When the former superintendent proposed a “merit lottery” for TJ’s admission process, I thought the stupidity would never be surpassed, I was wrong. Now we’ll have “equal outcome” for our kids. Does anyone here expect “equal outcome” for your own kids?

It's not "evil." It's a goal. It's rhetorical. It's aspirational.

Anyone who thinks in terms of that somehow costing their own child something is just a despicable piece of human garbage. Imagine being told this and your first concern is "WHAT ABOUT *MY* CHILD? *MY* CHILD IS SPECIAL."

I mean, that's such a twisted and diseased way of thinking.

DP, but we'd be better off if more people took care of their own kids first and stopped expecting government to engineer "equal outcomes" for all.

And lofty aspirations and slogans are no substitute for competent leadership, as illustrated by the ongoing decline of FCPS.

Education is a public good. It's good for the public to have equally good outcomes. I swear to God, you people with your provincial thinking. How is society served if our schools have suboptimal outcomes? You want to talk about evil? Look at people like you and your revolting way of thinking.

It's tilting at windmills to suggest that public schools can deliver equal outcomes for all students. You may say it's merely an aspiration, but what it does in practice is promote a race to the bottom as it's far easier to bring down the top performers, or eliminate performance metrics, than to bring up those with the least ability or willingness to work as hard as other students.

Trying to pretend otherwise is a fool's errand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No good comes from forcing diversity.

Funny how Asians thrive at standardized testing, and a certain other group calls them culturally biased!

For the life of me I never could figure out what’s biased about Math, Science and English.

You must not be very bright, then. There's plenty of bias in the way math, science and English are taught and tested. Plenty of it. Look at the word problems, for example. For years there was bias in terms of who is good enough to learn these subjects (still is).

Here's a pretty simple explainer, though, of cultural bias in testing: https://study.com/learn/lesson/test-bias-types-examples-cultural.html

This assumes you actually want to correct your ignorance on the subject. If you wish to remain willfully ignorant, I can't help you. But perhaps you should sit the rest of this conversation out since you have nothing of value to share.

Asians are NOT complaining English is 'biased'. In fact, they are doing better than white students on average and most of them are upper lower to middle class. How come Asian students (some of them immigrants from non-English speaking countries) are doing as well or better than white students? GTFOH.

Uh. Did you actually read what PP wrote?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Equal outcomes for every student without exception” is an impossible goal. Some are smarter, some more athletic, some artistic, some work harder.

That was a terrible thing to do to the students who earned their award.

I agree. I am disgusted to hear “equal outcome for every student without exception.” It’s not only ridiculous it’s evil. When the former superintendent proposed a “merit lottery” for TJ’s admission process, I thought the stupidity would never be surpassed, I was wrong. Now we’ll have “equal outcome” for our kids. Does anyone here expect “equal outcome” for your own kids?

It's not "evil." It's a goal. It's rhetorical. It's aspirational.

Anyone who thinks in terms of that somehow costing their own child something is just a despicable piece of human garbage. Imagine being told this and your first concern is "WHAT ABOUT *MY* CHILD? *MY* CHILD IS SPECIAL."

I mean, that's such a twisted and diseased way of thinking.

DP, but we'd be better off if more people took care of their own kids first and stopped expecting government to engineer "equal outcomes" for all.

And lofty aspirations and slogans are no substitute for competent leadership, as illustrated by the ongoing decline of FCPS.

Education is a public good. It's good for the public to have equally good outcomes. I swear to God, you people with your provincial thinking. How is society served if our schools have suboptimal outcomes? You want to talk about evil? Look at people like you and your revolting way of thinking.

It's tilting at windmills to suggest that public schools can deliver equal outcomes for all students. You may say it's merely an aspiration, but what it does in practice is promote a race to the bottom as it's far easier to bring down the top performers, or eliminate performance metrics, than to bring up those with the least ability or willingness to work as hard as other students.

Trying to pretend otherwise is a fool's errand.

What this have to do with a slightly-late, almost-meaningless paper certificate?

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So we will bring the exceptional down to the gutter level of those that can not or choose not to achieve?

Well, yes, that according to the progressives is equity. Well in the REAL world, as a general rule, the exceptional go on and do exceptionally well with great achievements and those that can not or choose not to, wave the 'race' card (Here I am using the left's definition of race, which I am guessing means any minority that feels victimhood) and demand money....lots of money, because they feel bad because others achieved when they didn't.

Well they had the chances and opportunities and either weren't smart enough or chose not to apply themselves (or to party hearty). This is NOT affirmative action, it is harmful, deceitful and just plain Wrong, and probably illegal.

I hope the lawsuits are directed at the individuals that perpetrated these heinous acts, and each of them is left destitute and jobless....they earned both.

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Anonymous wrote:Great job to Gov. Youngkin for stepping up for the students.

Heads are going to roll when the investigation is complete, and the school administrators involved in this scheme will be out of jobs for what they did.

keep dreaming

How many prosecutors do you see doing press conferences for cases they don't think they would win?

This happens ALL THE TIME.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Equal outcomes for every student without exception” is an impossible goal. Some are smarter, some more athletic, some artistic, some work harder.

That was a terrible thing to do to the students who earned their award.

I agree. I am disgusted to hear “equal outcome for every student without exception.” It’s not only ridiculous it’s evil. When the former superintendent proposed a “merit lottery” for TJ’s admission process, I thought the stupidity would never be surpassed, I was wrong. Now we’ll have “equal outcome” for our kids. Does anyone here expect “equal outcome” for your own kids?

It's not "evil." It's a goal. It's rhetorical. It's aspirational.

Anyone who thinks in terms of that somehow costing their own child something is just a despicable piece of human garbage. Imagine being told this and your first concern is "WHAT ABOUT *MY* CHILD? *MY* CHILD IS SPECIAL."

I mean, that's such a twisted and diseased way of thinking.

DP, but we'd be better off if more people took care of their own kids first and stopped expecting government to engineer "equal outcomes" for all.

And lofty aspirations and slogans are no substitute for competent leadership, as illustrated by the ongoing decline of FCPS.

Education is a public good. It's good for the public to have equally good outcomes. I swear to God, you people with your provincial thinking. How is society served if our schools have suboptimal outcomes? You want to talk about evil? Look at people like you and your revolting way of thinking.

It's tilting at windmills to suggest that public schools can deliver equal outcomes for all students. You may say it's merely an aspiration, but what it does in practice is promote a race to the bottom as it's far easier to bring down the top performers, or eliminate performance metrics, than to bring up those with the least ability or willingness to work as hard as other students.

Trying to pretend otherwise is a fool's errand.

What this have to do with a slightly-late, almost-meaningless paper certificate?

You know very well what the director of student service's explanation was to the TJ parent for not notifying students of their commended status. It was that they didn't want anyone's feelings to be hurt, and didn't want to focus on students' achievements.

If you can't see the connection to the larger focus on equity and equal outcomes, that speaks to your lack of intelligence and nothing else.

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I’ve read all the discussion and still don’t know what the wrongdoing was. Sounds like whoever sent the notification is the one who made a mistake?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Equal outcomes for every student without exception” is an impossible goal. Some are smarter, some more athletic, some artistic, some work harder.

That was a terrible thing to do to the students who earned their award.

I agree. I am disgusted to hear “equal outcome for every student without exception.” It’s not only ridiculous it’s evil. When the former superintendent proposed a “merit lottery” for TJ’s admission process, I thought the stupidity would never be surpassed, I was wrong. Now we’ll have “equal outcome” for our kids. Does anyone here expect “equal outcome” for your own kids?

It's not "evil." It's a goal. It's rhetorical. It's aspirational.

Anyone who thinks in terms of that somehow costing their own child something is just a despicable piece of human garbage. Imagine being told this and your first concern is "WHAT ABOUT *MY* CHILD? *MY* CHILD IS SPECIAL."

I mean, that's such a twisted and diseased way of thinking.

DP, but we'd be better off if more people took care of their own kids first and stopped expecting government to engineer "equal outcomes" for all.

And lofty aspirations and slogans are no substitute for competent leadership, as illustrated by the ongoing decline of FCPS.

Education is a public good. It's good for the public to have equally good outcomes. I swear to God, you people with your provincial thinking. How is society served if our schools have suboptimal outcomes? You want to talk about evil? Look at people like you and your revolting way of thinking.

It's tilting at windmills to suggest that public schools can deliver equal outcomes for all students. You may say it's merely an aspiration, but what it does in practice is promote a race to the bottom as it's far easier to bring down the top performers, or eliminate performance metrics, than to bring up those with the least ability or willingness to work as hard as other students.

Trying to pretend otherwise is a fool's errand.

What this have to do with a slightly-late, almost-meaningless paper certificate?

You know very well what the director of student service's explanation was to the TJ parent for not notifying students of their commended status. It was that they didn't want anyone's feelings to be hurt, and didn't want to focus on students' achievements.

If you can't see the connection to the larger focus on equity and equal outcomes, that speaks to your lack of intelligence and nothing else.

The students WERE notified. They WERE given their paper certificates. Just within two weeks instead of two days. Not significantly because students were already aware of scores and cutoffs before this.

This did not “bring down top performers” in any way. FAUX HYSTERIA.

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Anonymous wrote:Northern Virginia High School Reportedly Withheld Test Scores from More Than 1,000 Students, Preventing College Scholarship Opportunities

RICHMOND, VA - Following recent news reports, Governor Glenn Youngkin today called for Virginia's Attorney General Jason Miyares to investigate allegations that information about National Merit Awards, as determined by student PSAT scores, was withheld from students at Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology until after important deadlines for college scholarships had passed.

“We need to get to the bottom of what appears to be an egregious, deliberate attempt to disadvantage high-performing students at one of the best schools in the country,” said Governor Glenn Youngkin. “Parents and students deserve answers and Attorney General Miyares will initiate a full investigation. I believe this failure may have caused material harm to those students and their parents, and that this failure may have violated the Virginia Human Rights Act.”

https://www.governor.virginia.gov/newsroom/news-releases/2023/january/name-967965-en.html

Report says scholarship opportunities WERE prevented.

Please stop LYING about this fact.

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Anonymous wrote:It is almost comical that Rs go on and on about participation trophies, and then opportunistically complain about the kids got them too late.

Rs don’t care about education because they know an educated populace votes D. They simply want to play the racial game and rile up a portion of the Asian voting bloc.

THIS.

Being Commended is not a honor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Northern Virginia High School Reportedly Withheld Test Scores from More Than 1,000 Students, Preventing College Scholarship Opportunities

RICHMOND, VA - Following recent news reports, Governor Glenn Youngkin today called for Virginia's Attorney General Jason Miyares to investigate allegations that information about National Merit Awards, as determined by student PSAT scores, was withheld from students at Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology until after important deadlines for college scholarships had passed.

“We need to get to the bottom of what appears to be an egregious, deliberate attempt to disadvantage high-performing students at one of the best schools in the country,” said Governor Glenn Youngkin. “Parents and students deserve answers and Attorney General Miyares will initiate a full investigation. I believe this failure may have caused material harm to those students and their parents, and that this failure may have violated the Virginia Human Rights Act.”

https://www.governor.virginia.gov/newsroom/news-releases/2023/january/name-967965-en.html

Report says scholarship opportunities WERE prevented.

Please stop LYING about this fact.

A Youngkin press release is now a report. What scholarship would a student have qualified for if they had been notified two weeks earlier?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve read all the discussion and still don’t know what the wrongdoing was. Sounds like whoever sent the notification is the one who made a mistake?

The certificates were supposed to be delivered to students within two days of receipt but it was closer to two weeks. I believe there were a few holidays in there too.

Faux hysteria.