UVA mass shooting

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Anonymous wrote:Chief's comment about hazing incident was a bit vague.

I missed that- who was hazed?

This is rumor and what my kid at UVA heard: the suspect was kicked off the football team for hazing in 2019, but not all who were responsible were reprimanded.

I heard he was kicked off for sexual assault allegations.

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Did anyone understand the comment the chief made about hazing? Was he saying the suspect had been hazed and filed a complaint, or that the suspect had been investigated for hazing?

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Do we know how suspect was obtained/found?

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone understand the comment the chief made about hazing? Was he saying the suspect had been hazed and filed a complaint, or that the suspect had been investigated for hazing?

We don't know.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone understand the comment the chief made about hazing? Was he saying the suspect had been hazed and filed a complaint, or that the suspect had been investigated for hazing?

The latter, but the frat bros (or team mates) apparently refused to do the right thing...so the school could not conduct their investigation. Other students refused to cooperate.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone understand the comment the chief made about hazing? Was he saying the suspect had been hazed and filed a complaint, or that the suspect had been investigated for hazing?

We don't know.

I think it sounded like:
Suspect was accused of hazing, but chief mentioned people not coming forward to report, so perhaps no formal charges, but I bet team thought just a lot simpler to boot him off the team (he never played a game).
There was also a more recent report about him having a gun, which brought hom to attention of some kind of Threat Assessment Group.
It's going to get ugly as media digs in and unearths all the facts about this individual.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone understand the comment the chief made about hazing? Was he saying the suspect had been hazed and filed a complaint, or that the suspect had been investigated for hazing?

The latter, but the frat bros (or team mates) apparently refused to do the right thing...so the school could not conduct their investigation. Other students refused to cooperate.

Interesting. So perhaps the rumor my UVA kid heard was true.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is currently sheltering in place as police hunt a former football player who is described as an active shooter and at-large.

The university emergency communications told everyone “RUN HIDE FIGHT”

Unconfirmed reports of four dead, all athletes/football players.

SWAT team on site at an apartment building close to my child’s sorority house.

Guess I won’t be sleeping tonight.

I am so sorry. This is terrible. I just read an article on the suspect and he won student of the year and other accolades. Sounds like he was good student and nice kid. How do he spiral from that to this? What a shame for all. Op my heart breaks for you and the victims families.

Don't you DARE glorify him. HE MURDERED THREE PEOPLE in cold blood and injured two others. I hope they catch him, throw him in jail and keep him there in solitary confinement for the rest of his life. I don't care how he spiraled. I want him caught and locked up.

We have a child at UVA and I am a graduate of UVA. The children at school are terrified. My husband is there right now to be with our kid and friends.

The shooter is still on the loose. It is a travesty that the shooter was able to get ahold of a gun and that he murdered three innocent people. And now he is being played in the media as some sympathetic character. Sympathy, my fat patootie. That jacka$$ murdered THREE young people living their best lives. I have no sympathy for the shooter. None.

What children?

If you are a parent, you should understand that a teenager is on the spectrum of childhood. They are not full grown adults.

According to the World Health Organization, adolescence lasts through age 19.

I'm definitely a parent. But no, 18 is a full grown adult--unless you are going to advocate that this "child" who killed three people should not be tried as an adult?

Well, he is about to turn 23 ... very different than an 18 year old.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone understand the comment the chief made about hazing? Was he saying the suspect had been hazed and filed a complaint, or that the suspect had been investigated for hazing?

We don't know.

I think it sounded like:
Suspect was accused of hazing, but chief mentioned people not coming forward to report, so perhaps no formal charges, but I bet team thought just a lot simpler to boot him off the team (he never played a game).
There was also a more recent report about him having a gun, which brought hom to attention of some kind of Threat Assessment Group.
It's going to get ugly as media digs in and unearths all the facts about this individual.

I have an alternate theory, given that he was only a first year and only played one year, could he have been the one who was hazed? And that no one was ever found responsible leading to this anger?

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone understand the comment the chief made about hazing? Was he saying the suspect had been hazed and filed a complaint, or that the suspect had been investigated for hazing?

We don't know.

I think it sounded like:
Suspect was accused of hazing, but chief mentioned people not coming forward to report, so perhaps no formal charges, but I bet team thought just a lot simpler to boot him off the team (he never played a game).
There was also a more recent report about him having a gun, which brought hom to attention of some kind of Threat Assessment Group.
It's going to get ugly as media digs in and unearths all the facts about this individual.

I have an alternate theory, given that he was only a first year and only played one year, could he have been the one who was hazed? And that no one was ever found responsible leading to this anger?

ETA, meaning he was only on the football year as a first year, could it have been freshman hazing like you see so often with sports teams?

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not sure if he was hazed, but hazing is alive and well in many different ways, greek life, sports, clubs, jobs etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone understand the comment the chief made about hazing? Was he saying the suspect had been hazed and filed a complaint, or that the suspect had been investigated for hazing?

We don't know.

I think it sounded like:
Suspect was accused of hazing, but chief mentioned people not coming forward to report, so perhaps no formal charges, but I bet team thought just a lot simpler to boot him off the team (he never played a game).
There was also a more recent report about him having a gun, which brought hom to attention of some kind of Threat Assessment Group.
It's going to get ugly as media digs in and unearths all the facts about this individual.

Well, I hope that they spend some time digging into the legislators who are responsible for lax gun laws.

That has the potential to save more lives that digging up dirt on a disturbed young man who is now off the streets.

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Anonymous wrote:Those in the UVA community, my heart goes out to you. I’m so sorry. Praying for victims, witnesses and UVA families.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:'Shelter in place' has been lifted. A small sigh of relieve.

Except the suspect still hasn’t been captured. Hopefully this gives students an opportunity to leave campus if needed. I wouldn’t want my child staying there if they could get out and go somewhere safer for the time being. What a nightmare.

Suspect was apprehended.

Sounds like he was a known threat from what I'm hearing at this press conference. What a disaster UVA has on their hands.

I was wondering when ignored pre-incident indicators were going to come out. Next should be an examination of the security (or lack thereof) provided to the team, particularly in light of the pre-incident indicators.

I thought of CTE too (from concussions in football).

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:'Shelter in place' has been lifted. A small sigh of relieve.

Except the suspect still hasn’t been captured. Hopefully this gives students an opportunity to leave campus if needed. I wouldn’t want my child staying there if they could get out and go somewhere safer for the time being. What a nightmare.

Suspect was apprehended.

Sounds like he was a known threat from what I'm hearing at this press conference. What a disaster UVA has on their hands.

I was wondering when ignored pre-incident indicators were going to come out. Next should be an examination of the security (or lack thereof) provided to the team, particularly in light of the pre-incident indicators.

I thought of CTE too (from concussions in football).

We need to understand the problem nationally. Not dissect one shooter. We need to invest in such research and evaluating policy solutions scientifically. That should be the priority of policy makers, and voters.

https://everytownresearch.org/maps/mass-shootings-in-america/