Why does the DC Council (Charles Allen) not want the MPD doing any traffic enforcement?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

Traffic cameras are racist.

There has been studies linked above that provide the evidence. The placement of the cameras are concentrated in predominantly Black neighborhoods while most traffic violence is occurring in Wards 1, 2 and 6.

Cool story. Isn't the most notorious traffic camera in the city located in the K Street tunnel? It's really time to stop pretending like anything and everything is racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

Traffic cameras are racist.

There has been studies linked above that provide the evidence. The placement of the cameras are concentrated in predominantly Black neighborhoods while most traffic violence is occurring in Wards 1, 2 and 6.

Per the Post article, traffic violence is primarily occurring in wards 7 and 8.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

Traffic cameras are racist.

There has been studies linked above that provide the evidence. The placement of the cameras are concentrated in predominantly Black neighborhoods while most traffic violence is occurring in Wards 1, 2 and 6.

Per the Post article, traffic violence is primarily occurring in wards 7 and 8.

What is traffic violence?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

Traffic cameras are racist.

There has been studies linked above that provide the evidence. The placement of the cameras are concentrated in predominantly Black neighborhoods while most traffic violence is occurring in Wards 1, 2 and 6.

Can you please provide the studies or news articles that are related to the claims of racist camera placement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

Traffic cameras are racist.

There has been studies linked above that provide the evidence. The placement of the cameras are concentrated in predominantly Black neighborhoods while most traffic violence is occurring in Wards 1, 2 and 6.

Per the Post article, traffic violence is primarily occurring in wards 7 and 8.

There have been very few deaths this year in Wards 7 or 8. The vast majority of the deaths are in Wards 1,2 and 6. That’s just a fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

Traffic cameras are racist.

There has been studies linked above that provide the evidence. The placement of the cameras are concentrated in predominantly Black neighborhoods while most traffic violence is occurring in Wards 1, 2 and 6.

Per the Post article, traffic violence is primarily occurring in wards 7 and 8.

There have been very few deaths this year in Wards 7 or 8. The vast majority of the deaths are in Wards 1,2 and 6. That’s just a fact.

Facts require evidence. You constantly provide none.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

How is this possible? Are they designed to only take a picture if the driver is black?

There's been a million studies all showing black drivers are far more likely to be ticketed by cameras. Some cities have dropped cameras because of it.

https://www.propublica.org/article/chicagos-race-neutral-traffic-cameras-ticket-black-and-latino-drivers-the-most

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Once again, ignoring that black pedestrians are far more likely die in traffic deaths, to be struck/killed pedestrians. Let's focus on the people dying here and how to prevent that.

Has there been a single black pedestrian who has died this year in a traffic accident? Traffic deaths are quite rare in Washington D.C.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/transportation/2022/02/23/dc-traffic-deaths-highest-record/

PS that article was from Feb 2022. 25 deaths so far in 2022 but cannot say the breakdown by race a DC doesn't publish that to my knowledge. Important to note that just because someone doesn't actually die doesn't mean they weren't permanently and profoundly affected.

Your chances of dying in a traffic accident in Washington DC are roughly the same as being killed by a lighting strike.

What a useless comment.

Traffic deaths in DC are a little bit like plane crashes or being attacked by a shark. When one happens, everyone hears about it. But that doesnt change the fact that they are statistically rare. There are more than 1 million people in DC during the day. If 24 people are killed each year on D.C. rounds, that's out of hundreds of millions of trips. Statistically, that's not that different than the three people in D.C. who have been killed this year by lightning.

What the city should really be focused on is spending billions of dollars designing smart infrastructure so fewer people get struck by lightning.

It's time for Vision Zero for Death-by-Lightning.

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[Anonymous]

In DC, anything involving enforcing rules or laws disproportionately affects POC so a progressive politician will be unable to support something as simple as traffic ticketing or even criminal prosecution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

Traffic cameras are racist.

There has been studies linked above that provide the evidence. The placement of the cameras are concentrated in predominantly Black neighborhoods while most traffic violence is occurring in Wards 1, 2 and 6.

Per the Post article, traffic violence is primarily occurring in wards 7 and 8.

There have been very few deaths this year in Wards 7 or 8. The vast majority of the deaths are in Wards 1,2 and 6. That’s just a fact.

Facts require evidence. You constantly provide none.

I am sorry you are ignorant of the facts. So far in 2022, 13 pedestrians and 3 cyclists have died so far this year in DC.

Ward 1: 2
Ward 2: 3
Ward 3: 3
Ward 4: 0
Ward 5: 5
Ward 6: 1
Ward 7: 4
Ward 8: 2

If you were going to prioritize ATE cameras, where would you put them? So why are the cameras proven to disproportionately in Black areas when traffic violence seems to a more acute issue is white areas?
https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/predominately-black-neighborhoods-in-d-c-bear-the-brunt-of-automated-traffic-enforcement/

It seems that you have nothing of value to add to this conversation except farting noises coming out of your mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

Traffic cameras are racist.

There has been studies linked above that provide the evidence. The placement of the cameras are concentrated in predominantly Black neighborhoods while most traffic violence is occurring in Wards 1, 2 and 6.

Per the Post article, traffic violence is primarily occurring in wards 7 and 8.

There have been very few deaths this year in Wards 7 or 8. The vast majority of the deaths are in Wards 1,2 and 6. That’s just a fact.

Facts require evidence. You constantly provide none.

I am sorry you are ignorant of the facts. So far in 2022, 13 pedestrians and 3 cyclists have died so far this year in DC.

Ward 1: 2
Ward 2: 3
Ward 3: 3
Ward 4: 0
Ward 5: 5
Ward 6: 1
Ward 7: 4
Ward 8: 2

If you were going to prioritize ATE cameras, where would you put them? So why are the cameras proven to disproportionately in Black areas when traffic violence seems to a more acute issue is white areas?
https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/predominately-black-neighborhoods-in-d-c-bear-the-brunt-of-automated-traffic-enforcement/

It seems that you have nothing of value to add to this conversation except farting noises coming out of your mouth.

Hm, can you pull that same data including all traffic injuries by ward?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

Traffic cameras are racist.

There has been studies linked above that provide the evidence. The placement of the cameras are concentrated in predominantly Black neighborhoods while most traffic violence is occurring in Wards 1, 2 and 6.

Per the Post article, traffic violence is primarily occurring in wards 7 and 8.

There have been very few deaths this year in Wards 7 or 8. The vast majority of the deaths are in Wards 1,2 and 6. That’s just a fact.

Facts require evidence. You constantly provide none.

I am sorry you are ignorant of the facts. So far in 2022, 13 pedestrians and 3 cyclists have died so far this year in DC.

Ward 1: 2
Ward 2: 3
Ward 3: 3
Ward 4: 0
Ward 5: 5
Ward 6: 1
Ward 7: 4
Ward 8: 2

If you were going to prioritize ATE cameras, where would you put them? So why are the cameras proven to disproportionately in Black areas when traffic violence seems to a more acute issue is white areas?
https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/predominately-black-neighborhoods-in-d-c-bear-the-brunt-of-automated-traffic-enforcement/

It seems that you have nothing of value to add to this conversation except farting noises coming out of your mouth.

Hm, can you pull that same data including all traffic injuries by ward?

Arrogance is cured by knowledge.

2022 Fatalities, Severe and Minor accidents for cyclists and pedestrians by Ward.

Ward 1: 37
Ward 2: 81
Ward 3: 28
Ward 4: 24
Ward 5: 56
Ward 6: 69
Ward 7: 44
Ward 8: 37

Wards 2, 5 and 6 should be targeted for ATE and not Wards 7 and 8. However, Ward’s 7 and 8 have the highest concentration of ATE enforcement. Why is that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

Traffic cameras are racist.

There has been studies linked above that provide the evidence. The placement of the cameras are concentrated in predominantly Black neighborhoods while most traffic violence is occurring in Wards 1, 2 and 6.

Per the Post article, traffic violence is primarily occurring in wards 7 and 8.

There have been very few deaths this year in Wards 7 or 8. The vast majority of the deaths are in Wards 1,2 and 6. That’s just a fact.

Facts require evidence. You constantly provide none.

I am sorry you are ignorant of the facts. So far in 2022, 13 pedestrians and 3 cyclists have died so far this year in DC.

Ward 1: 2
Ward 2: 3
Ward 3: 3
Ward 4: 0
Ward 5: 5
Ward 6: 1
Ward 7: 4
Ward 8: 2

If you were going to prioritize ATE cameras, where would you put them? So why are the cameras proven to disproportionately in Black areas when traffic violence seems to a more acute issue is white areas?
https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/predominately-black-neighborhoods-in-d-c-bear-the-brunt-of-automated-traffic-enforcement/

It seems that you have nothing of value to add to this conversation except farting noises coming out of your mouth.

Hm, can you pull that same data including all traffic injuries by ward?

Arrogance is cured by knowledge.

2022 Fatalities, Severe and Minor accidents for cyclists and pedestrians by Ward.

Ward 1: 37
Ward 2: 81
Ward 3: 28
Ward 4: 24
Ward 5: 56
Ward 6: 69
Ward 7: 44
Ward 8: 37

Wards 2, 5 and 6 should be targeted for ATE and not Wards 7 and 8. However, Ward’s 7 and 8 have the highest concentration of ATE enforcement. Why is that?

Ok and then pull any traffic accident resulting in injury (including car accidents)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

Traffic cameras are racist.

There has been studies linked above that provide the evidence. The placement of the cameras are concentrated in predominantly Black neighborhoods while most traffic violence is occurring in Wards 1, 2 and 6.

Per the Post article, traffic violence is primarily occurring in wards 7 and 8.

There have been very few deaths this year in Wards 7 or 8. The vast majority of the deaths are in Wards 1,2 and 6. That’s just a fact.

Facts require evidence. You constantly provide none.

I am sorry you are ignorant of the facts. So far in 2022, 13 pedestrians and 3 cyclists have died so far this year in DC.

Ward 1: 2
Ward 2: 3
Ward 3: 3
Ward 4: 0
Ward 5: 5
Ward 6: 1
Ward 7: 4
Ward 8: 2

If you were going to prioritize ATE cameras, where would you put them? So why are the cameras proven to disproportionately in Black areas when traffic violence seems to a more acute issue is white areas?
https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/predominately-black-neighborhoods-in-d-c-bear-the-brunt-of-automated-traffic-enforcement/

It seems that you have nothing of value to add to this conversation except farting noises coming out of your mouth.

Hm, can you pull that same data including all traffic injuries by ward?

Arrogance is cured by knowledge.

2022 Fatalities, Severe and Minor accidents for cyclists and pedestrians by Ward.

Ward 1: 37
Ward 2: 81
Ward 3: 28
Ward 4: 24
Ward 5: 56
Ward 6: 69
Ward 7: 44
Ward 8: 37

Wards 2, 5 and 6 should be targeted for ATE and not Wards 7 and 8. However, Ward’s 7 and 8 have the highest concentration of ATE enforcement. Why is that?

Ok and then pull any traffic accident resulting in injury (including car accidents)

I'll do this.

Ward 1: 207 total traffic injuries, 2.5 sq miles, 0.24% rate per ward population. 7 cameras.
Ward 2: 371 total traffic injuries, 6.4 sq miles, 0.47% rate per ward population. 24 cameras.
Ward 3: 100 total traffic injuries, 10.4 sq miles, 0.11% rate per ward population. 8 cameras.
Ward 4: 226 total traffic injuries, 8.9 sq miles, 0.25% rate per ward population. 27 cameras.
Ward 5: 491 total traffic injuries, 10.2 square miles, 0.53% rate per ward population. 34 cameras.
Ward 6: 386 total traffic injuries, 5.7 square miles, 0.37% rate per ward population. 22 cameras.
Ward 7: 719 total traffic injuries, 8.4 square miles, 0.85% rate per ward population. 14 cameras.
Ward 8: 443 total traffic injuries, 8.7 square miles, 0.51% rate per ward population. 1 camera

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/Active%20Locations%2003222022.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Traffic cameras disproportionately hit black drivers

Traffic cameras are racist.

There has been studies linked above that provide the evidence. The placement of the cameras are concentrated in predominantly Black neighborhoods while most traffic violence is occurring in Wards 1, 2 and 6.

Per the Post article, traffic violence is primarily occurring in wards 7 and 8.

There have been very few deaths this year in Wards 7 or 8. The vast majority of the deaths are in Wards 1,2 and 6. That’s just a fact.

Facts require evidence. You constantly provide none.

I am sorry you are ignorant of the facts. So far in 2022, 13 pedestrians and 3 cyclists have died so far this year in DC.

Ward 1: 2
Ward 2: 3
Ward 3: 3
Ward 4: 0
Ward 5: 5
Ward 6: 1
Ward 7: 4
Ward 8: 2

If you were going to prioritize ATE cameras, where would you put them? So why are the cameras proven to disproportionately in Black areas when traffic violence seems to a more acute issue is white areas?
https://www.dcpolicycenter.org/publications/predominately-black-neighborhoods-in-d-c-bear-the-brunt-of-automated-traffic-enforcement/

It seems that you have nothing of value to add to this conversation except farting noises coming out of your mouth.

Hm, can you pull that same data including all traffic injuries by ward?

Arrogance is cured by knowledge.

2022 Fatalities, Severe and Minor accidents for cyclists and pedestrians by Ward.

Ward 1: 37
Ward 2: 81
Ward 3: 28
Ward 4: 24
Ward 5: 56
Ward 6: 69
Ward 7: 44
Ward 8: 37

Wards 2, 5 and 6 should be targeted for ATE and not Wards 7 and 8. However, Ward’s 7 and 8 have the highest concentration of ATE enforcement. Why is that?

Ok and then pull any traffic accident resulting in injury (including car accidents)

I'll do this.

Ward 1: 207 total traffic injuries, 2.5 sq miles, 0.24% rate per ward population. 7 cameras.
Ward 2: 371 total traffic injuries, 6.4 sq miles, 0.47% rate per ward population. 24 cameras.
Ward 3: 100 total traffic injuries, 10.4 sq miles, 0.11% rate per ward population. 8 cameras.
Ward 4: 226 total traffic injuries, 8.9 sq miles, 0.25% rate per ward population. 27 cameras.
Ward 5: 491 total traffic injuries, 10.2 square miles, 0.53% rate per ward population. 34 cameras.
Ward 6: 386 total traffic injuries, 5.7 square miles, 0.37% rate per ward population. 22 cameras.
Ward 7: 719 total traffic injuries, 8.4 square miles, 0.85% rate per ward population. 14 cameras.
Ward 8: 443 total traffic injuries, 8.7 square miles, 0.51% rate per ward population. 1 camera

https://ddot.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ddot/publication/attachments/Active%20Locations%2003222022.pdf

DP, rate per ward population is rough injury rate.

[Anonymous]

Did you ever stop to think that the residents of W7 and W8 might WANT better traffic enforcement? Or are you under the impression that being black makes you inherently OK with dangerous driving?