Redshirting my son for pre-k - May birthday

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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


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It does happen later on when the kids get get older.

It doesn’t happen in real life. One of the most well-liked, nicest kids in my DCs elementary class was a Feb. kid who was a year older. That kid could not have been more well-liked if he tried. And he was the oldest by literally months.
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


+1

It does happen later on when the kids get get older.

It doesn’t happen in real life. One of the most well-liked, nicest kids in my DCs elementary class was a Feb. kid who was a year older. That kid could not have been more well-liked if he tried. And he was the oldest by literally months.


No it doesn't. You can keep saying that it does but that doesn't make it so. Why are you so threatened by the idea of some kids being a few months older than others? It's not a big deal.
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


+1

It does happen later on when the kids get get older.

It doesn’t happen in real life. One of the most well-liked, nicest kids in my DCs elementary class was a Feb. kid who was a year older. That kid could not have been more well-liked if he tried. And he was the oldest by literally months.


You put your comment in the wrong place but I will respond anyhow. The well-liked kid February oldest kid in my DCs elementary class is now a very well-liked junior in high school, who is also going to have a lot of great college options.

I have no idea why you are making up this odd fantasy of exclusion but it is just that: an odd fantasy not based remotely on real life.
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


+1

It does happen later on when the kids get get older.

It doesn’t happen in real life. One of the most well-liked, nicest kids in my DCs elementary class was a Feb. kid who was a year older. That kid could not have been more well-liked if he tried. And he was the oldest by literally months.


You put your comment in the wrong place but I will respond anyhow. The well-liked kid February oldest kid in my DCs elementary class is now a very well-liked junior in high school, who is also going to have a lot of great college options.

I have no idea why you are making up this odd fantasy of exclusion but it is just that: an odd fantasy not based remotely on real life.


And what makes you think the outcome would have been different if he went on time.
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


Kids talk, just in private. My kid will tell me how odd it is a kid two years older is in the same grade.
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


+1

It does happen later on when the kids get get older.

It doesn’t happen in real life. One of the most well-liked, nicest kids in my DCs elementary class was a Feb. kid who was a year older. That kid could not have been more well-liked if he tried. And he was the oldest by literally months.


You put your comment in the wrong place but I will respond anyhow. The well-liked kid February oldest kid in my DCs elementary class is now a very well-liked junior in high school, who is also going to have a lot of great college options.

I have no idea why you are making up this odd fantasy of exclusion but it is just that: an odd fantasy not based remotely on real life.


And what makes you think the outcome would have been different if he went on time.


Uh, I’m not saying that it would have been different? That’s an entirely different argument. You are the one insisting that redshirted kids are excluded or harassed or what have you, and all I’m saying is that as a parent of teens, I haven’t seen that at all. And specifically, the kid I know who was months older was very well-liked. You are the one claiming that he was going to get excluded or disliked because of his age, which (a) didn’t happen to the kid I know and (b) have you ever actually met a group of human children? I’m sort of skeptical that you spend any time with children at all tbh.
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


Kids talk, just in private. My kid will tell me how odd it is a kid two years older is in the same grade.


Well, yes, I believe your child tells you want he knows you want to hear.
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


Kids talk, just in private. My kid will tell me how odd it is a kid two years older is in the same grade.


Well, yes, I believe your child tells you want he knows you want to hear.


Two years? As in 24 months?
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


Kids talk, just in private. My kid will tell me how odd it is a kid two years older is in the same grade.


Well, yes, I believe your child tells you want he knows you want to hear.


Two years? As in 24 months?


Usually 16-20 months. If a child is a February/March child and you mix those in with September/October kids, its not just a 12 month age spread. People have unrealistic expectations of kids.
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


Kids talk, just in private. My kid will tell me how odd it is a kid two years older is in the same grade.


Well, yes, I believe your child tells you want he knows you want to hear.


Two years? As in 24 months?


Usually 16-20 months. If a child is a February/March child and you mix those in with September/October kids, its not just a 12 month age spread. People have unrealistic expectations of kids.


So a few kids are several months apart but not most or all. So what’s the issue? Why does this bother you?
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


+1

It does happen later on when the kids get get older.

It doesn’t happen in real life. One of the most well-liked, nicest kids in my DCs elementary class was a Feb. kid who was a year older. That kid could not have been more well-liked if he tried. And he was the oldest by literally months.


You put your comment in the wrong place but I will respond anyhow. The well-liked kid February oldest kid in my DCs elementary class is now a very well-liked junior in high school, who is also going to have a lot of great college options.

I have no idea why you are making up this odd fantasy of exclusion but it is just that: an odd fantasy not based remotely on real life.


And what makes you think the outcome would have been different if he went on time.


Uh, I’m not saying that it would have been different? That’s an entirely different argument. You are the one insisting that redshirted kids are excluded or harassed or what have you, and all I’m saying is that as a parent of teens, I haven’t seen that at all. And specifically, the kid I know who was months older was very well-liked. You are the one claiming that he was going to get excluded or disliked because of his age, which (a) didn’t happen to the kid I know and (b) have you ever actually met a group of human children? I’m sort of skeptical that you spend any time with children at all tbh.


I am saying its very odd and yes, some kids are uncomfortable with it as usually kids are held back for academics, sports or behavioral issues and they are not grade appropriate for their age. My kid will absolutely comment when at 12, a child is turning 14 in 7th grade as they very much stand out. I feel bad for kids who are held back as their parents are either not willing to help them succeed and take the easy route or they have real delays and generally the parents aren't helping (baring real special needs where there is justification to hold back). Sports and "immaturity" are not reasons to hold back and if any child is 5 and mature its a huge red flag to something wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


+1

It doesn’t happen in real life. One of the most well-liked, nicest kids in my DCs elementary class was a Feb. kid who was a year older. That kid could not have been more well-liked if he tried. And he was the oldest by literally months.


You don't see an issue with having 5 year olds in a class with 7 year olds?
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


+1

It does happen later on when the kids get get older.

It doesn’t happen in real life. One of the most well-liked, nicest kids in my DCs elementary class was a Feb. kid who was a year older. That kid could not have been more well-liked if he tried. And he was the oldest by literally months.


You put your comment in the wrong place but I will respond anyhow. The well-liked kid February oldest kid in my DCs elementary class is now a very well-liked junior in high school, who is also going to have a lot of great college options.

I have no idea why you are making up this odd fantasy of exclusion but it is just that: an odd fantasy not based remotely on real life.


And what makes you think the outcome would have been different if he went on time.


Uh, I’m not saying that it would have been different? That’s an entirely different argument. You are the one insisting that redshirted kids are excluded or harassed or what have you, and all I’m saying is that as a parent of teens, I haven’t seen that at all. And specifically, the kid I know who was months older was very well-liked. You are the one claiming that he was going to get excluded or disliked because of his age, which (a) didn’t happen to the kid I know and (b) have you ever actually met a group of human children? I’m sort of skeptical that you spend any time with children at all tbh.


I am saying its very odd and yes, some kids are uncomfortable with it as usually kids are held back for academics, sports or behavioral issues and they are not grade appropriate for their age. My kid will absolutely comment when at 12, a child is turning 14 in 7th grade as they very much stand out. I feel bad for kids who are held back as their parents are either not willing to help them succeed and take the easy route or they have real delays and generally the parents aren't helping (baring real special needs where there is justification to hold back). Sports and "immaturity" are not reasons to hold back and if any child is 5 and mature its a huge red flag to something wrong.


You just have no clue.
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


Kids talk, just in private. My kid will tell me how odd it is a kid two years older is in the same grade.


I have no doubt a child of yours gossips about and judges other kids in his class.
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Anonymous wrote:May is too old. Down the road, kids will begin to notice how much older he is and think he must have been held back. He will be almost a year and a half older than some classmates. There was a kid at our school who was redshirted with a May birthday and he stood out as too old. Ge will turn 7 while in kindergarten! I’m surprised schools allow this. There should be a cut off at some point.


This doesn't happen. I know you like to think it does, but it doesn't and kids do not care about this at all. Only nosy busybody parents.


Oh yes it happens.


No, it really doesn't. I was just at a birthday party for a kindergartener turning 7 and nobody said a thing. My 6 year old kindergartener only thought it was unfair he got to turn 7 first. Someone will always have to be first. My 5th grader is with kids already turning 12. Again, nobody says a thing and the other kids just wish it was their birthday. The insecurity is on the parent's side, not the kids.


+1

It doesn’t happen in real life. One of the most well-liked, nicest kids in my DCs elementary class was a Feb. kid who was a year older. That kid could not have been more well-liked if he tried. And he was the oldest by literally months.


You don't see an issue with having 5 year olds in a class with 7 year olds?


DP. Generally a summer kid who is older rather than younger ends up no more than ~14 months older than the very youngest kids in the class. Most of the August kids I know are "red shirted", so let's say the July kids are youngest in the class. A May kid is 14 months older than the youngest, and less than a year older than the majority. Anti-red shirt enthusiasts are totally fine with a 12 month gap but lose it over a 14 month gap. It's really not a big deal.
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