Redshirting my son for pre-k - May birthday

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Anonymous wrote:While yes, there are some raging anti-red shirters here, please consider me a rational anti-red shirter. I did not redshirt my early July son. Do I think school would have been easier for him if I had, like all the time? Yes. But he was born before the cut off and one must learn to bloom where they are planted. Despite people saying only crazy anti-red shirters will make fun of him, I can tell you, there are cracks about the "8th grader driving himself to school" and the 22-year-old senior all the time, from all walks of parent and kid. The kids know who the spring hold backs are and they don't like it. July or Aug can sort of get away with it. There's a May hold back in my kid's class at one of the "big 3," and he's shooting for top schools next year and already the talk is, well, when you give yourself an extra year to rise above everybody else, etc. Really. Do not kid yourself, spring hold backs are not looked upon nicely. On top of that, it seems like you're holding your kid back just because you didn't get the private school you want? That's the worst part of all of this.

I am always so surprised when parents brag about how they teach their children to be bullies. It’s one of the most remarkable consistent self-owns on DCUM from the anti-redshirt posters.

I can assure you that my much more well-raised children do not make fun of kids because of their birthdays, and neither to the rest of the well-raised teens. I get that isn’t your children but your deficits as a parent aren’t their fault.

I didn't say it was my kid, did I? It's not. As I said, which you would know had you read more carefully, is that I hear others--kids and parents alike, saying it. It's typically at sporting events, but still. I was simply letting the OP know that she would be kidding herself if she thinks her kid won't be talked about. He will. Not one single word in my post said that I or my kids bullied others. We don't. Frankly, you are much more of a judgy name-caller here. You're insecure about your choice, I get it. But don't put down others when it's not deserved.

There you go judging again. But I do agree with you that the kid will be talked about and will carry that stigma. Nothing will be on his own merit.

Speak for your own toxic school environment.

The hypocrisy you have speaks for itself. I can get toxic environment right here just from you.

Interesting. The families at my school have a very different way of "talking" about redshirted kids I guess. Of the ones I know, they seem popular, have lots of friends, and get good grades. I'm not even sure beyond a few who has been and who hasn't. I wonder when all this bad gossip is supposed to start? High school? Never? If it's a problem it's not very apparent. I guess it just your school.

I guess it’s just your school who have hypocrite parents like yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:While yes, there are some raging anti-red shirters here, please consider me a rational anti-red shirter. I did not redshirt my early July son. Do I think school would have been easier for him if I had, like all the time? Yes. But he was born before the cut off and one must learn to bloom where they are planted. Despite people saying only crazy anti-red shirters will make fun of him, I can tell you, there are cracks about the "8th grader driving himself to school" and the 22-year-old senior all the time, from all walks of parent and kid. The kids know who the spring hold backs are and they don't like it. July or Aug can sort of get away with it. There's a May hold back in my kid's class at one of the "big 3," and he's shooting for top schools next year and already the talk is, well, when you give yourself an extra year to rise above everybody else, etc. Really. Do not kid yourself, spring hold backs are not looked upon nicely. On top of that, it seems like you're holding your kid back just because you didn't get the private school you want? That's the worst part of all of this.

I am always so surprised when parents brag about how they teach their children to be bullies. It’s one of the most remarkable consistent self-owns on DCUM from the anti-redshirt posters.

I can assure you that my much more well-raised children do not make fun of kids because of their birthdays, and neither to the rest of the well-raised teens. I get that isn’t your children but your deficits as a parent aren’t their fault.

I didn't say it was my kid, did I? It's not. As I said, which you would know had you read more carefully, is that I hear others--kids and parents alike, saying it. It's typically at sporting events, but still. I was simply letting the OP know that she would be kidding herself if she thinks her kid won't be talked about. He will. Not one single word in my post said that I or my kids bullied others. We don't. Frankly, you are much more of a judgy name-caller here. You're insecure about your choice, I get it. But don't put down others when it's not deserved.

There you go judging again. But I do agree with you that the kid will be talked about and will carry that stigma. Nothing will be on his own merit.

Nothing a child ever does will be on their own merit simply because they may be a few months older than their peers? Really?

My kid technically just made the cut off but we didn’t think he was ready to go to kindergarten yet at age 4 so we waited another year and so far it’s proven to be the right decision. He’s only a few months older than most of his classmates.

Name one state or district that says a 4 year old can enter kindergarten. I’ve lived in 4 states and taught in the last 10 years and none did this.

Virginia, Maryland, DC and many other states have children entering kindergarten at 4. For example, in FCPS, the cutoff date is 9/30. For a kid born on 9/28/2017, they are eligible to enter kindergarten in August 2022 but will remain 4 years old for the first 4-5 weeks of school or so.

A few weeks in nominal and very few children would fit into that.

A lot of schools are now starting earlier (August, instead of Sept) so I expect more to wait until their child has actually turned five to enroll. But apparently many of you will be badmouthing kids who turn six in Sept of their kinder year and saying they don’t do anything on their own merit even if your kid turns six in October.

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Anonymous wrote:While yes, there are some raging anti-red shirters here, please consider me a rational anti-red shirter. I did not redshirt my early July son. Do I think school would have been easier for him if I had, like all the time? Yes. But he was born before the cut off and one must learn to bloom where they are planted. Despite people saying only crazy anti-red shirters will make fun of him, I can tell you, there are cracks about the "8th grader driving himself to school" and the 22-year-old senior all the time, from all walks of parent and kid. The kids know who the spring hold backs are and they don't like it. July or Aug can sort of get away with it. There's a May hold back in my kid's class at one of the "big 3," and he's shooting for top schools next year and already the talk is, well, when you give yourself an extra year to rise above everybody else, etc. Really. Do not kid yourself, spring hold backs are not looked upon nicely. On top of that, it seems like you're holding your kid back just because you didn't get the private school you want? That's the worst part of all of this.

I am always so surprised when parents brag about how they teach their children to be bullies. It’s one of the most remarkable consistent self-owns on DCUM from the anti-redshirt posters.

I can assure you that my much more well-raised children do not make fun of kids because of their birthdays, and neither to the rest of the well-raised teens. I get that isn’t your children but your deficits as a parent aren’t their fault.

I didn't say it was my kid, did I? It's not. As I said, which you would know had you read more carefully, is that I hear others--kids and parents alike, saying it. It's typically at sporting events, but still. I was simply letting the OP know that she would be kidding herself if she thinks her kid won't be talked about. He will. Not one single word in my post said that I or my kids bullied others. We don't. Frankly, you are much more of a judgy name-caller here. You're insecure about your choice, I get it. But don't put down others when it's not deserved.

There you go judging again. But I do agree with you that the kid will be talked about and will carry that stigma. Nothing will be on his own merit.

Speak for your own toxic school environment.

The hypocrisy you have speaks for itself. I can get toxic environment right here just from you.

Interesting. The families at my school have a very different way of "talking" about redshirted kids I guess. Of the ones I know, they seem popular, have lots of friends, and get good grades. I'm not even sure beyond a few who has been and who hasn't. I wonder when all this bad gossip is supposed to start? High school? Never? If it's a problem it's not very apparent. I guess it just your school.

I guess it’s just your school who have hypocrite parents like yourself.

I guess. Just keep on making threats that you will talk about kids whose parents make decisions you don't agree with. Seems like you're the one out of sync if you're at a school where this is such a huge issue.

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Anonymous wrote:While yes, there are some raging anti-red shirters here, please consider me a rational anti-red shirter. I did not redshirt my early July son. Do I think school would have been easier for him if I had, like all the time? Yes. But he was born before the cut off and one must learn to bloom where they are planted. Despite people saying only crazy anti-red shirters will make fun of him, I can tell you, there are cracks about the "8th grader driving himself to school" and the 22-year-old senior all the time, from all walks of parent and kid. The kids know who the spring hold backs are and they don't like it. July or Aug can sort of get away with it. There's a May hold back in my kid's class at one of the "big 3," and he's shooting for top schools next year and already the talk is, well, when you give yourself an extra year to rise above everybody else, etc. Really. Do not kid yourself, spring hold backs are not looked upon nicely. On top of that, it seems like you're holding your kid back just because you didn't get the private school you want? That's the worst part of all of this.

I am always so surprised when parents brag about how they teach their children to be bullies. It’s one of the most remarkable consistent self-owns on DCUM from the anti-redshirt posters.

I can assure you that my much more well-raised children do not make fun of kids because of their birthdays, and neither to the rest of the well-raised teens. I get that isn’t your children but your deficits as a parent aren’t their fault.

I didn't say it was my kid, did I? It's not. As I said, which you would know had you read more carefully, is that I hear others--kids and parents alike, saying it. It's typically at sporting events, but still. I was simply letting the OP know that she would be kidding herself if she thinks her kid won't be talked about. He will. Not one single word in my post said that I or my kids bullied others. We don't. Frankly, you are much more of a judgy name-caller here. You're insecure about your choice, I get it. But don't put down others when it's not deserved.

There you go judging again. But I do agree with you that the kid will be talked about and will carry that stigma. Nothing will be on his own merit.

Nothing a child ever does will be on their own merit simply because they may be a few months older than their peers? Really?

My kid technically just made the cut off but we didn’t think he was ready to go to kindergarten yet at age 4 so we waited another year and so far it’s proven to be the right decision. He’s only a few months older than most of his classmates.

Name one state or district that says a 4 year old can enter kindergarten. I’ve lived in 4 states and taught in the last 10 years and none did this.

Virginia, Maryland, DC and many other states have children entering kindergarten at 4. For example, in FCPS, the cutoff date is 9/30. For a kid born on 9/28/2017, they are eligible to enter kindergarten in August 2022 but will remain 4 years old for the first 4-5 weeks of school or so.

A few weeks in nominal and very few children would fit into that.

A lot of schools are now starting earlier (August, instead of Sept) so I expect more to wait until their child has actually turned five to enroll. But apparently many of you will be badmouthing kids who turn six in Sept of their kinder year and saying they don’t do anything on their own merit even if your kid turns six in October.

If they can do it on their own merit, they would not need to be placed back in order to gain an edge. You’re the one saying they can’t do it.

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Anonymous wrote:While yes, there are some raging anti-red shirters here, please consider me a rational anti-red shirter. I did not redshirt my early July son. Do I think school would have been easier for him if I had, like all the time? Yes. But he was born before the cut off and one must learn to bloom where they are planted. Despite people saying only crazy anti-red shirters will make fun of him, I can tell you, there are cracks about the "8th grader driving himself to school" and the 22-year-old senior all the time, from all walks of parent and kid. The kids know who the spring hold backs are and they don't like it. July or Aug can sort of get away with it. There's a May hold back in my kid's class at one of the "big 3," and he's shooting for top schools next year and already the talk is, well, when you give yourself an extra year to rise above everybody else, etc. Really. Do not kid yourself, spring hold backs are not looked upon nicely. On top of that, it seems like you're holding your kid back just because you didn't get the private school you want? That's the worst part of all of this.

I am always so surprised when parents brag about how they teach their children to be bullies. It’s one of the most remarkable consistent self-owns on DCUM from the anti-redshirt posters.

I can assure you that my much more well-raised children do not make fun of kids because of their birthdays, and neither to the rest of the well-raised teens. I get that isn’t your children but your deficits as a parent aren’t their fault.

I didn't say it was my kid, did I? It's not. As I said, which you would know had you read more carefully, is that I hear others--kids and parents alike, saying it. It's typically at sporting events, but still. I was simply letting the OP know that she would be kidding herself if she thinks her kid won't be talked about. He will. Not one single word in my post said that I or my kids bullied others. We don't. Frankly, you are much more of a judgy name-caller here. You're insecure about your choice, I get it. But don't put down others when it's not deserved.

There you go judging again. But I do agree with you that the kid will be talked about and will carry that stigma. Nothing will be on his own merit.

Nothing a child ever does will be on their own merit simply because they may be a few months older than their peers? Really?

My kid technically just made the cut off but we didn’t think he was ready to go to kindergarten yet at age 4 so we waited another year and so far it’s proven to be the right decision. He’s only a few months older than most of his classmates.

Name one state or district that says a 4 year old can enter kindergarten. I’ve lived in 4 states and taught in the last 10 years and none did this.

Virginia, Maryland, DC and many other states have children entering kindergarten at 4. For example, in FCPS, the cutoff date is 9/30. For a kid born on 9/28/2017, they are eligible to enter kindergarten in August 2022 but will remain 4 years old for the first 4-5 weeks of school or so.

A few weeks in nominal and very few children would fit into that.

A lot of schools are now starting earlier (August, instead of Sept) so I expect more to wait until their child has actually turned five to enroll. But apparently many of you will be badmouthing kids who turn six in Sept of their kinder year and saying they don’t do anything on their own merit even if your kid turns six in October.

If they can do it on their own merit, they would not need to be placed back in order to gain an edge. You’re the one saying they can’t do it.

So the kid turning six in Oct is doing it on their own merit but not the kid turning six in Sept? Ya’ll got real issues scrutinizing kids based on their birthday alignments.

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Anonymous wrote:While yes, there are some raging anti-red shirters here, please consider me a rational anti-red shirter. I did not redshirt my early July son. Do I think school would have been easier for him if I had, like all the time? Yes. But he was born before the cut off and one must learn to bloom where they are planted. Despite people saying only crazy anti-red shirters will make fun of him, I can tell you, there are cracks about the "8th grader driving himself to school" and the 22-year-old senior all the time, from all walks of parent and kid. The kids know who the spring hold backs are and they don't like it. July or Aug can sort of get away with it. There's a May hold back in my kid's class at one of the "big 3," and he's shooting for top schools next year and already the talk is, well, when you give yourself an extra year to rise above everybody else, etc. Really. Do not kid yourself, spring hold backs are not looked upon nicely. On top of that, it seems like you're holding your kid back just because you didn't get the private school you want? That's the worst part of all of this.

I am always so surprised when parents brag about how they teach their children to be bullies. It’s one of the most remarkable consistent self-owns on DCUM from the anti-redshirt posters.

I can assure you that my much more well-raised children do not make fun of kids because of their birthdays, and neither to the rest of the well-raised teens. I get that isn’t your children but your deficits as a parent aren’t their fault.

I didn't say it was my kid, did I? It's not. As I said, which you would know had you read more carefully, is that I hear others--kids and parents alike, saying it. It's typically at sporting events, but still. I was simply letting the OP know that she would be kidding herself if she thinks her kid won't be talked about. He will. Not one single word in my post said that I or my kids bullied others. We don't. Frankly, you are much more of a judgy name-caller here. You're insecure about your choice, I get it. But don't put down others when it's not deserved.

There you go judging again. But I do agree with you that the kid will be talked about and will carry that stigma. Nothing will be on his own merit.

Nothing a child ever does will be on their own merit simply because they may be a few months older than their peers? Really?

My kid technically just made the cut off but we didn’t think he was ready to go to kindergarten yet at age 4 so we waited another year and so far it’s proven to be the right decision. He’s only a few months older than most of his classmates.

Name one state or district that says a 4 year old can enter kindergarten. I’ve lived in 4 states and taught in the last 10 years and none did this.

Virginia, Maryland, DC and many other states have children entering kindergarten at 4. For example, in FCPS, the cutoff date is 9/30. For a kid born on 9/28/2017, they are eligible to enter kindergarten in August 2022 but will remain 4 years old for the first 4-5 weeks of school or so.

A few weeks in nominal and very few children would fit into that.

A lot of schools are now starting earlier (August, instead of Sept) so I expect more to wait until their child has actually turned five to enroll. But apparently many of you will be badmouthing kids who turn six in Sept of their kinder year and saying they don’t do anything on their own merit even if your kid turns six in October.

If they can do it on their own merit, they would not need to be placed back in order to gain an edge. You’re the one saying they can’t do it.

So the kid turning six in Oct is doing it on their own merit but not the kid turning six in Sept? Ya’ll got real issues scrutinizing kids based on their birthday alignments.

Contact the Department of Education and ask them to remove cut-off dates in all public schools across the nation.

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Anonymous wrote:While yes, there are some raging anti-red shirters here, please consider me a rational anti-red shirter. I did not redshirt my early July son. Do I think school would have been easier for him if I had, like all the time? Yes. But he was born before the cut off and one must learn to bloom where they are planted. Despite people saying only crazy anti-red shirters will make fun of him, I can tell you, there are cracks about the "8th grader driving himself to school" and the 22-year-old senior all the time, from all walks of parent and kid. The kids know who the spring hold backs are and they don't like it. July or Aug can sort of get away with it. There's a May hold back in my kid's class at one of the "big 3," and he's shooting for top schools next year and already the talk is, well, when you give yourself an extra year to rise above everybody else, etc. Really. Do not kid yourself, spring hold backs are not looked upon nicely. On top of that, it seems like you're holding your kid back just because you didn't get the private school you want? That's the worst part of all of this.

I am always so surprised when parents brag about how they teach their children to be bullies. It’s one of the most remarkable consistent self-owns on DCUM from the anti-redshirt posters.

I can assure you that my much more well-raised children do not make fun of kids because of their birthdays, and neither to the rest of the well-raised teens. I get that isn’t your children but your deficits as a parent aren’t their fault.

I didn't say it was my kid, did I? It's not. As I said, which you would know had you read more carefully, is that I hear others--kids and parents alike, saying it. It's typically at sporting events, but still. I was simply letting the OP know that she would be kidding herself if she thinks her kid won't be talked about. He will. Not one single word in my post said that I or my kids bullied others. We don't. Frankly, you are much more of a judgy name-caller here. You're insecure about your choice, I get it. But don't put down others when it's not deserved.

There you go judging again. But I do agree with you that the kid will be talked about and will carry that stigma. Nothing will be on his own merit.

Nothing a child ever does will be on their own merit simply because they may be a few months older than their peers? Really?

My kid technically just made the cut off but we didn’t think he was ready to go to kindergarten yet at age 4 so we waited another year and so far it’s proven to be the right decision. He’s only a few months older than most of his classmates.

Name one state or district that says a 4 year old can enter kindergarten. I’ve lived in 4 states and taught in the last 10 years and none did this.

Many districts in the NY metro area have December cut-offs, where kids enter Kindergarten at 4 and turn 5 during the fall. NYS law has turning 5 on or before 12/1.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes that is to much. Send him to your public school for K and reapply next year for 1st grade.

This. Don't have a kid turning 7 in kindergarten.

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Anonymous wrote:While yes, there are some raging anti-red shirters here, please consider me a rational anti-red shirter. I did not redshirt my early July son. Do I think school would have been easier for him if I had, like all the time? Yes. But he was born before the cut off and one must learn to bloom where they are planted. Despite people saying only crazy anti-red shirters will make fun of him, I can tell you, there are cracks about the "8th grader driving himself to school" and the 22-year-old senior all the time, from all walks of parent and kid. The kids know who the spring hold backs are and they don't like it. July or Aug can sort of get away with it. There's a May hold back in my kid's class at one of the "big 3," and he's shooting for top schools next year and already the talk is, well, when you give yourself an extra year to rise above everybody else, etc. Really. Do not kid yourself, spring hold backs are not looked upon nicely. On top of that, it seems like you're holding your kid back just because you didn't get the private school you want? That's the worst part of all of this.

I am always so surprised when parents brag about how they teach their children to be bullies. It’s one of the most remarkable consistent self-owns on DCUM from the anti-redshirt posters.

I can assure you that my much more well-raised children do not make fun of kids because of their birthdays, and neither to the rest of the well-raised teens. I get that isn’t your children but your deficits as a parent aren’t their fault.

I didn't say it was my kid, did I? It's not. As I said, which you would know had you read more carefully, is that I hear others--kids and parents alike, saying it. It's typically at sporting events, but still. I was simply letting the OP know that she would be kidding herself if she thinks her kid won't be talked about. He will. Not one single word in my post said that I or my kids bullied others. We don't. Frankly, you are much more of a judgy name-caller here. You're insecure about your choice, I get it. But don't put down others when it's not deserved.

There you go judging again. But I do agree with you that the kid will be talked about and will carry that stigma. Nothing will be on his own merit.

Nothing a child ever does will be on their own merit simply because they may be a few months older than their peers? Really?

My kid technically just made the cut off but we didn’t think he was ready to go to kindergarten yet at age 4 so we waited another year and so far it’s proven to be the right decision. He’s only a few months older than most of his classmates.

Name one state or district that says a 4 year old can enter kindergarten. I’ve lived in 4 states and taught in the last 10 years and none did this.

Many districts in the NY metro area have December cut-offs, where kids enter Kindergarten at 4 and turn 5 during the fall. NYS law has turning 5 on or before 12/1.

God, the redshirted parents can barely send the kids at 6. Do
they going to have 6 and nearly 7 years old with the 4 years old?

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The level of anger and bitterness on this thread is impressive even by DCUM standards. I think at this point we can safely say neither side is going to convince the other - maybe everyone can just agree to let it drop (at least until the next time there's a redshirting thread?)

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Anonymous wrote:While yes, there are some raging anti-red shirters here, please consider me a rational anti-red shirter. I did not redshirt my early July son. Do I think school would have been easier for him if I had, like all the time? Yes. But he was born before the cut off and one must learn to bloom where they are planted. Despite people saying only crazy anti-red shirters will make fun of him, I can tell you, there are cracks about the "8th grader driving himself to school" and the 22-year-old senior all the time, from all walks of parent and kid. The kids know who the spring hold backs are and they don't like it. July or Aug can sort of get away with it. There's a May hold back in my kid's class at one of the "big 3," and he's shooting for top schools next year and already the talk is, well, when you give yourself an extra year to rise above everybody else, etc. Really. Do not kid yourself, spring hold backs are not looked upon nicely. On top of that, it seems like you're holding your kid back just because you didn't get the private school you want? That's the worst part of all of this.

I am always so surprised when parents brag about how they teach their children to be bullies. It’s one of the most remarkable consistent self-owns on DCUM from the anti-redshirt posters.

I can assure you that my much more well-raised children do not make fun of kids because of their birthdays, and neither to the rest of the well-raised teens. I get that isn’t your children but your deficits as a parent aren’t their fault.

I didn't say it was my kid, did I? It's not. As I said, which you would know had you read more carefully, is that I hear others--kids and parents alike, saying it. It's typically at sporting events, but still. I was simply letting the OP know that she would be kidding herself if she thinks her kid won't be talked about. He will. Not one single word in my post said that I or my kids bullied others. We don't. Frankly, you are much more of a judgy name-caller here. You're insecure about your choice, I get it. But don't put down others when it's not deserved.

There you go judging again. But I do agree with you that the kid will be talked about and will carry that stigma. Nothing will be on his own merit.

Nothing a child ever does will be on their own merit simply because they may be a few months older than their peers? Really?

My kid technically just made the cut off but we didn’t think he was ready to go to kindergarten yet at age 4 so we waited another year and so far it’s proven to be the right decision. He’s only a few months older than most of his classmates.

Name one state or district that says a 4 year old can enter kindergarten. I’ve lived in 4 states and taught in the last 10 years and none did this.

Virginia, Maryland, DC and many other states have children entering kindergarten at 4. For example, in FCPS, the cutoff date is 9/30. For a kid born on 9/28/2017, they are eligible to enter kindergarten in August 2022 but will remain 4 years old for the first 4-5 weeks of school or so.

A few weeks in nominal and very few children would fit into that.

A lot of schools are now starting earlier (August, instead of Sept) so I expect more to wait until their child has actually turned five to enroll. But apparently many of you will be badmouthing kids who turn six in Sept of their kinder year and saying they don’t do anything on their own merit even if your kid turns six in October.

If they can do it on their own merit, they would not need to be placed back in order to gain an edge. You’re the one saying they can’t do it.

So the kid turning six in Oct is doing it on their own merit but not the kid turning six in Sept? Ya’ll got real issues scrutinizing kids based on their birthday alignments.

Contact the Department of Education and ask them to remove cut-off dates in all public schools across the nation.

That’s really not necessary. At least in Virginia, it’s still up to the parent to make the ultimate decision about kindergarten for their child. In our case, after disruptive preschool experience due to the pandemic, our four year old was not ready for kinder yet and could wait to develop another year of basic skills.

“In Virginia, parents must ensure that a child attends school in compliance with the state compulsory attendance law as specified in § 22.1-254This link takes you out of the Virginia Department of Education website of the Code of Virginia when the child has reached his fifth birthday on or before September 30 of any school year and has not passed his eighteenth birthday. However, any child who will not have reached his sixth birthday on or before September 30 of each school year whose parent or guardian notifies the appropriate school board that he does not wish the child to attend school until the following year because the child, in the opinion of the parent or guardian, is not mentally, physically, or emotionally prepared to attend school, may delay the child's attendance for one year.

https://www.doe.virginia.gov/support/health_medical/office/covid-19-faq-kindergarten.shtml

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Why are any of you prattling on about public schools?

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Anonymous wrote:While yes, there are some raging anti-red shirters here, please consider me a rational anti-red shirter. I did not redshirt my early July son. Do I think school would have been easier for him if I had, like all the time? Yes. But he was born before the cut off and one must learn to bloom where they are planted. Despite people saying only crazy anti-red shirters will make fun of him, I can tell you, there are cracks about the "8th grader driving himself to school" and the 22-year-old senior all the time, from all walks of parent and kid. The kids know who the spring hold backs are and they don't like it. July or Aug can sort of get away with it. There's a May hold back in my kid's class at one of the "big 3," and he's shooting for top schools next year and already the talk is, well, when you give yourself an extra year to rise above everybody else, etc. Really. Do not kid yourself, spring hold backs are not looked upon nicely. On top of that, it seems like you're holding your kid back just because you didn't get the private school you want? That's the worst part of all of this.

I am always so surprised when parents brag about how they teach their children to be bullies. It’s one of the most remarkable consistent self-owns on DCUM from the anti-redshirt posters.

I can assure you that my much more well-raised children do not make fun of kids because of their birthdays, and neither to the rest of the well-raised teens. I get that isn’t your children but your deficits as a parent aren’t their fault.

I didn't say it was my kid, did I? It's not. As I said, which you would know had you read more carefully, is that I hear others--kids and parents alike, saying it. It's typically at sporting events, but still. I was simply letting the OP know that she would be kidding herself if she thinks her kid won't be talked about. He will. Not one single word in my post said that I or my kids bullied others. We don't. Frankly, you are much more of a judgy name-caller here. You're insecure about your choice, I get it. But don't put down others when it's not deserved.

There you go judging again. But I do agree with you that the kid will be talked about and will carry that stigma. Nothing will be on his own merit.

Nothing a child ever does will be on their own merit simply because they may be a few months older than their peers? Really?

My kid technically just made the cut off but we didn’t think he was ready to go to kindergarten yet at age 4 so we waited another year and so far it’s proven to be the right decision. He’s only a few months older than most of his classmates.

Name one state or district that says a 4 year old can enter kindergarten. I’ve lived in 4 states and taught in the last 10 years and none did this.

Many districts in the NY metro area have December cut-offs, where kids enter Kindergarten at 4 and turn 5 during the fall. NYS law has turning 5 on or before 12/1.

God, the redshirted parents can barely send the kids at 6. Do
they going to have 6 and nearly 7 years old with the 4 years old?

At least in NYC, they place you where your age dictates you should be according to the cut offs. You don’t get the option of red shirting. The only way to avoid this is to pay for private school (different cut-offs) for K-2 (or maybe it’s through grade 3?) - after that point, the DOE will allow you to transfer same/next grade (depending on when you do it) even if you’re older than the others kids.

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Anonymous wrote:While yes, there are some raging anti-red shirters here, please consider me a rational anti-red shirter. I did not redshirt my early July son. Do I think school would have been easier for him if I had, like all the time? Yes. But he was born before the cut off and one must learn to bloom where they are planted. Despite people saying only crazy anti-red shirters will make fun of him, I can tell you, there are cracks about the "8th grader driving himself to school" and the 22-year-old senior all the time, from all walks of parent and kid. The kids know who the spring hold backs are and they don't like it. July or Aug can sort of get away with it. There's a May hold back in my kid's class at one of the "big 3," and he's shooting for top schools next year and already the talk is, well, when you give yourself an extra year to rise above everybody else, etc. Really. Do not kid yourself, spring hold backs are not looked upon nicely. On top of that, it seems like you're holding your kid back just because you didn't get the private school you want? That's the worst part of all of this.

I am always so surprised when parents brag about how they teach their children to be bullies. It’s one of the most remarkable consistent self-owns on DCUM from the anti-redshirt posters.

I can assure you that my much more well-raised children do not make fun of kids because of their birthdays, and neither to the rest of the well-raised teens. I get that isn’t your children but your deficits as a parent aren’t their fault.

I didn't say it was my kid, did I? It's not. As I said, which you would know had you read more carefully, is that I hear others--kids and parents alike, saying it. It's typically at sporting events, but still. I was simply letting the OP know that she would be kidding herself if she thinks her kid won't be talked about. He will. Not one single word in my post said that I or my kids bullied others. We don't. Frankly, you are much more of a judgy name-caller here. You're insecure about your choice, I get it. But don't put down others when it's not deserved.

There you go judging again. But I do agree with you that the kid will be talked about and will carry that stigma. Nothing will be on his own merit.

Nothing a child ever does will be on their own merit simply because they may be a few months older than their peers? Really?

My kid technically just made the cut off but we didn’t think he was ready to go to kindergarten yet at age 4 so we waited another year and so far it’s proven to be the right decision. He’s only a few months older than most of his classmates.

Name one state or district that says a 4 year old can enter kindergarten. I’ve lived in 4 states and taught in the last 10 years and none did this.

Virginia, Maryland, DC and many other states have children entering kindergarten at 4. For example, in FCPS, the cutoff date is 9/30. For a kid born on 9/28/2017, they are eligible to enter kindergarten in August 2022 but will remain 4 years old for the first 4-5 weeks of school or so.

A few weeks in nominal and very few children would fit into that.

A lot of schools are now starting earlier (August, instead of Sept) so I expect more to wait until their child has actually turned five to enroll. But apparently many of you will be badmouthing kids who turn six in Sept of their kinder year and saying they don’t do anything on their own merit even if your kid turns six in October.

If they can do it on their own merit, they would not need to be placed back in order to gain an edge. You’re the one saying they can’t do it.

So the kid turning six in Oct is doing it on their own merit but not the kid turning six in Sept? Ya’ll got real issues scrutinizing kids based on their birthday alignments.

Contact the Department of Education and ask them to remove cut-off dates in all public schools across the nation.

That’s really not necessary. At least in Virginia, it’s still up to the parent to make the ultimate decision about kindergarten for their child. In our case, after disruptive preschool experience due to the pandemic, our four year old was not ready for kinder yet and could wait to develop another year of basic skills.

“In Virginia, parents must ensure that a child attends school in compliance with the state compulsory attendance law as specified in § 22.1-254This link takes you out of the Virginia Department of Education website of the Code of Virginia when the child has reached his fifth birthday on or before September 30 of any school year and has not passed his eighteenth birthday. However, any child who will not have reached his sixth birthday on or before September 30 of each school year whose parent or guardian notifies the appropriate school board that he does not wish the child to attend school until the following year because the child, in the opinion of the parent or guardian, is not mentally, physically, or emotionally prepared to attend school, may delay the child's attendance for one year.

https://www.doe.virginia.gov/support/health_medical/office/covid-19-faq-kindergarten.shtml

Thank God there is a law that one has to have their child enrolled in school, otherwise, the redshirters could potentially be teenagers by the time the parents feel they might be able to handle kindergarten.

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Anonymous wrote:While yes, there are some raging anti-red shirters here, please consider me a rational anti-red shirter. I did not redshirt my early July son. Do I think school would have been easier for him if I had, like all the time? Yes. But he was born before the cut off and one must learn to bloom where they are planted. Despite people saying only crazy anti-red shirters will make fun of him, I can tell you, there are cracks about the "8th grader driving himself to school" and the 22-year-old senior all the time, from all walks of parent and kid. The kids know who the spring hold backs are and they don't like it. July or Aug can sort of get away with it. There's a May hold back in my kid's class at one of the "big 3," and he's shooting for top schools next year and already the talk is, well, when you give yourself an extra year to rise above everybody else, etc. Really. Do not kid yourself, spring hold backs are not looked upon nicely. On top of that, it seems like you're holding your kid back just because you didn't get the private school you want? That's the worst part of all of this.

I am always so surprised when parents brag about how they teach their children to be bullies. It’s one of the most remarkable consistent self-owns on DCUM from the anti-redshirt posters.

I can assure you that my much more well-raised children do not make fun of kids because of their birthdays, and neither to the rest of the well-raised teens. I get that isn’t your children but your deficits as a parent aren’t their fault.

The discussion is about a May child. Not a September or October child who misses the cut off.
I didn't say it was my kid, did I? It's not. As I said, which you would know had you read more carefully, is that I hear others--kids and parents alike, saying it. It's typically at sporting events, but still. I was simply letting the OP know that she would be kidding herself if she thinks her kid won't be talked about. He will. Not one single word in my post said that I or my kids bullied others. We don't. Frankly, you are much more of a judgy name-caller here. You're insecure about your choice, I get it. But don't put down others when it's not deserved.

There you go judging again. But I do agree with you that the kid will be talked about and will carry that stigma. Nothing will be on his own merit.

Nothing a child ever does will be on their own merit simply because they may be a few months older than their peers? Really?

My kid technically just made the cut off but we didn’t think he was ready to go to kindergarten yet at age 4 so we waited another year and so far it’s proven to be the right decision. He’s only a few months older than most of his classmates.

Name one state or district that says a 4 year old can enter kindergarten. I’ve lived in 4 states and taught in the last 10 years and none did this.

Virginia, Maryland, DC and many other states have children entering kindergarten at 4. For example, in FCPS, the cutoff date is 9/30. For a kid born on 9/28/2017, they are eligible to enter kindergarten in August 2022 but will remain 4 years old for the first 4-5 weeks of school or so.

A few weeks in nominal and very few children would fit into that.

A lot of schools are now starting earlier (August, instead of Sept) so I expect more to wait until their child has actually turned five to enroll. But apparently many of you will be badmouthing kids who turn six in Sept of their kinder year and saying they don’t do anything on their own merit even if your kid turns six in October.