
About 30% of TJ students come from surrounding counties. |
I don't think PPs are talking about the specific process in the lawsuit, but the larger reality that the program is not serving the whole population and has a clear adverse impact on a part of the population. Two things can be true simultaneously: a program/policy/etc. can be racially discriminatory by having an adverse impact on one population, and a given plan to fix that underlying problem can also be racially discriminatory and have an adverse impact on the population that used to be favored by the underlying discriminatory practice (I'm not weighing in on whether this particular case, but speaking generally). Striking down the wrong remedy does not mean the underlying problem is not a problem that still needs to be fixed. It does still need to be fixed. These are difficult problems to navigate. So I think what PP is saying is that if the underlying discriminatory program cannot be fixed without a discriminatory method, the underlying discriminatory program should be scrapped. No doubt you disagree with the underlying premise, but then again white men used to believe that that law schools and medical school were full of all white men because they were the only ones qualified to practice law and medicine. |
In other words, if I can’t have it, nobody can. Typical entitled white person’s perspective. |
The underlying program was not discriminatory. |
So as long as you can claim a “program/policy/etc” doesn’t result in the same outcome for every “group,” it has an “adverse impact” on those groups and should be scrapped? It’s nihilism, not policy. But I don’t doubt it may be the direction of a School Board with pork-barrel politicians like Karen Corbett Sanders and Ricardy Anderson. If they can’t secure enough seats for kids in their districts, they may well try to dismantle TJ entirely. |
Use an advanced standardized test with an essay component. The test should be at least 2 grade levels above. Perhaps they can use PSAT. Then take the top X number of students. |
FCPS needs to do the hard work of preparing all students earlier in the process so that all students have a fair shot at getting in. That’s much harder and more expensive than simply lowering the bar on admissions. There are no short cuts here and nothing replaces hard work over time when it comes to test performance etc. |
Even the American colleges in US are doing the same with Asian Americans. But the cream does float to the top.
Colleges like UMD has now built its reputation in STEM subjects by taking high performing Asian-Americans rejected by top universities and laughing all the way to the bank and ratings. In the end, all this discrimination in education and in jobs and yet Asian-Americans are unstoppable. Yes, every institution wants the Asian-American stats, achievements and performance - but then they don't want the Asian-Americans. Do not be fooled into thinking that this discrimination is to benefit URM. People who benefit are Whites and well-to-do URMs. Discriminating against Asian-Americans does not uplift the kid from the ghetto. |
No school system can totally replace the parents and home environment. What can they do? Put all kids into Asian-American foster homes? It is a societal breakdown and incapacity to take care of their children. |
+1 |
TJ is not supposed to serve everyone. It is primarily only for students who perform very well academically and are outliers. It is not for average kids. It is not for above average kids. It is for exceptionally academically gifted kids and based on their performance. Selection is not dependent on their skin color. |
No no no. It means identifying gifted kids early on and creating a pipeline for them. |
This is all mostly about America becoming a more pluralistic society and white coastal elites thinking they can hang on to more of their power and status by aligning with Black and Hispanic elites at the expense of ascendant Asians. Most Blacks and Hispanics (and, for that matter, whites) just want to work their way ahead and weren’t crying about their kids not getting into TJ. If they were as woke as they wanted you to think, they would have called for TJ’s dissolution. They just wanted a TJ that would serve as a testament to what they did for “URMs” to sustain the coalition they were trying to build. Unfortunately for them, they went about it in a clumsy, incoherent, and unconstitutional manner, which is about what you’d expect from a bunch of folks as stupid and hypocritical as the FCPS School Board. |
My kid takes math classes as an extracurricular activity outside of school, and those classes are superior to what instruction there is in their public school. You know who 98% of the other kids are at those outside classes? Asian-Americans and South-Asian Americans. So if there are kids out there who are devoting time to STEM in the way that other kids are devoting time to soccer or baseball, for example, that’s just naturally going to manifest itself in things like STEM magnets. I think the answer is to create more programs, not complain that the highest achievers are getting into the program. And do a better job offering quality instruction in all the schools. |
It'll be reversed, I woud imagine. |