Federal judge rules that admissions changes at nation’s top public school discriminate against Asian

[Anonymous]

So a group with 20% of the school population has over 50% of the spots at TJ and they claim they're discriminated against? I don't think so. I can't predict how the 4th Circuit will rule, but I think there is a 50-50 chance the decision will be overturned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://pacificlegal.org/press-release/federal-judge-rules-that-admissions-changes-at-nations-top-public-school-discriminate-against-asian-american-students/
Next step is to criminally charge Mr. Brabrand and FCPS SB members for their hate crimes against Asian Americans. I'll personally donate at least $10k for this cause.

Take your $10k and move your cubs to a better school district and forget about TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So a group with 20% of the school population has over 50% of the spots at TJ and they claim they're discriminated against? I don't think so. I can't predict how the 4th Circuit will rule, but I think there is a 50-50 chance the decision will be overturned.

You see the mentality of these parents. It's Asian segregation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So a group with 20% of the school population has over 50% of the spots at TJ and they claim they're discriminated against? I don't think so. I can't predict how the 4th Circuit will rule, but I think there is a 50-50 chance the decision will be overturned.

This decision is about the high-handed and arbitrary approach demonstrated by the school board and Braband - a totally flawed and hurried “reform” process. As an Asian I am celebrating this ruling but am fully supportive of reform. But the reform has to be well thought through and the result of a consultative process. And sold - like all change has to be - to the impacted folks (Asians). This school board was either telling Asians they did not matter or else had the gun of morality against their heads (you are racist if you are against us).

Hope there is some learning and a path to sustainable reform emerges. BTW - even if the 4th overturns this - there will be further appeals. And we know which way the highest court of the land leans. Best for the board to drop this and start afresh. And hopefully with a new board - this one is totally tainted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which is the more fair system (a simplification):

System A: Students take a test to get into a school. The top 550 students get in. There is no consideration for geographic diversity. There is no consideration for SES diversity. Test prepping is rampant, and reserved for those that can afford it.

System B: Students take a test. Prior to the test, the school makes a decision on what scores are likely to result in "successful" students. Everyone who scores in that range is put into a pool. 750 students make the cut. The student population is then selected with various factors in mind, including geographic and SES diversity. Students that are ranked from 450-550 are left out.

You are stupidly assuming that all of the System A students will pay for expensive prep. Some students take the test cold. Others study on their own with free or low-cost resources online. Some even study with the help of their brilliant parents. So racist to assume that one demographic is wealthy while another is poor!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It should become like college, grades, essay, recommendations, extra curricular. No test. Make it a black box, they can admit who they want.

This is more discriminatory against low SES students. You think their parents have the time or money for participation in extracurriculars? Or community involvement to have a wide range of recommendations? I've always thought the solution was for more resources to be provided in middle school to help with the process. Real help from free test prep to dedicated time during the school day for kids to get guidance on completing the application. Every middle school has what's essentially a free period during the day that functions as a study hall or for guidance lessons, usually named after their school mascot (Panther Time at Carson). The resources I'm talking about can happen throughout the year during that block. And the school libraries should be overflowing with test prep books.

Kids who do the hard work shouldn't be subjected to the whim of a lottery.

I hope they keep the application free. Until they made that change, I didn't realize there was a fee to apply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It should become like college, grades, essay, recommendations, extra curricular. No test. Make it a black box, they can admit who they want.

This is more discriminatory against low SES students. You think their parents have the time or money for participation in extracurriculars? Or community involvement to have a wide range of recommendations? I've always thought the solution was for more resources to be provided in middle school to help with the process. Real help from free test prep to dedicated time during the school day for kids to get guidance on completing the application. Every middle school has what's essentially a free period during the day that functions as a study hall or for guidance lessons, usually named after their school mascot (Panther Time at Carson). The resources I'm talking about can happen throughout the year during that block. And the school libraries should be overflowing with test prep books.

Kids who do the hard work shouldn't be subjected to the whim of a lottery.

I hope they keep the application free. Until they made that change, I didn't realize there was a fee to apply.

Standardized exams are expensive. The fee paid largely for the exam.

[Anonymous]

You know what else is expensive?

Lawyers. So many teachers could have had a higher salary with those dollars going to outside counsel.

[Anonymous]

Throw out all the bums parading around as educational leaders at the fcps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what else is expensive?

Lawyers. So many teachers could have had a higher salary with those dollars going to outside counsel.

How much do you think they have spent so far defending the 2 lawsuits? Millions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If TJ doesn’t serve all of Fairfax County, it shouldn’t exist.

According to you? Lol

According to the people paying taxes to fund it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know what else is expensive?

Lawyers. So many teachers could have had a higher salary with those dollars going to outside counsel.

How much do you think they have spent so far defending the 2 lawsuits? Millions?

Probably around 700k to 1 million so far. The State case is still on-going and they will have to spend more to appeal the Federal case so maybe another 1-2 million.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So a group with 20% of the school population has over 50% of the spots at TJ and they claim they're discriminated against? I don't think so. I can't predict how the 4th Circuit will rule, but I think there is a 50-50 chance the decision will be overturned.

This decision is about the high-handed and arbitrary approach demonstrated by the school board and Braband - a totally flawed and hurried “reform” process. As an Asian I am celebrating this ruling but am fully supportive of reform. But the reform has to be well thought through and the result of a consultative process. And sold - like all change has to be - to the impacted folks (Asians). This school board was either telling Asians they did not matter or else had the gun of morality against their heads (you are racist if you are against us).

Hope there is some learning and a path to sustainable reform emerges. BTW - even if the 4th overturns this - there will be further appeals. And we know which way the highest court of the land leans. Best for the board to drop this and start afresh. And hopefully with a new board - this one is totally tainted.

Very well said.

The case is about discrimination against Asian students, but it is also about the incompetence of the School Board, their prejudices, and their inability to follow legitimate decision-making processes. We also saw this with Frisch’s heavy-handed moves at Dunn Loring and Tholen’s corrupt boundary change at McLean.

Replace them all. As you say, they are completely tainted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If TJ doesn’t serve all of Fairfax County, it shouldn’t exist.

According to you? Lol

According to the people paying taxes to fund it.

No one school serves all of Fairfax County. There are all kinds of special programs and special schools that don't serve all students, just the ones who qualify or need the services provided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://pacificlegal.org/press-release/federal-judge-rules-that-admissions-changes-at-nations-top-public-school-discriminate-against-asian-american-students/
Next step is to criminally charge Mr. Brabrand and FCPS SB members for their hate crimes against Asian Americans. I'll personally donate at least $10k for this cause.

Take your $10k and move your cubs to a better school district and forget about TJ.

A racist like you don’t get to tell me nothing