Second round options for Woodward boundary study

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Anonymous wrote:The Wheaton numbers are wrong unless there is an explanation regarding the Edison overlap.

And why would the CIP mention nothing about this apparent Edison space? The numbers from Flo Analytics are not valid.

Idk maybe the studies have different goals. Maybe the space is shared and doesn’t require building parameters, which is the focus of the CIP but not the utilization.

The explanations they have provided are inconsistent and nonsensical so I am guessing there is no explanation. It's just easier to pretend Wheaton has 500 more seats than it does because it makes their numbers look better and give the west county kids more space and more appealing FARMS rates.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

People should stop quoting/bumping the post with the inaccurate/misleading summary on utilization. This is the correct summary for folks who care about over-crowding/underutilization.

Fake news. Report to moderator.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

You're not making any more sense than MCPS is

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

Edison and Wheaton are two different schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
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2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

Edison and Wheaton are two different schools.

They have the exact same address

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

I will pick option A.

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Options are comparable, but I prefer option A.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks need to say *why* they are supporting the options they're supporting/why they think it's best, otherwise it's totally unhelpful to people.

If I recall, A has less split articulation. That's positive. Otherwise these options are not too different from each other.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

Edison and Wheaton are two different schools.

They have the exact same address

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

[Anonymous]

Wow Wheaton is pretty bad in academics....

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/maryland/districts/montgomery-county-public-schools/wheaton-high-school-9152

Why are we talking about it in this message board? let's get back to relevancy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks need to say *why* they are supporting the options they're supporting/why they think it's best, otherwise it's totally unhelpful to people.

If I recall, A has less split articulation. That's positive. Otherwise these options are not too different from each other.

Why do people care about split articulation so much? Your kids need to get used to new people to succeed in life