Second round options for Woodward boundary study

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so amused by the hysterical people posting about Woodward like it's going to be like Kennedy or Watkins Mill.

It will be a perfectly good school no matter what they focus it on. Test scores will be fine. Not as high as the wealthier schools, because they track with SES. But your high achieving kid will do well there and probably have a sizeable cohort.

Experienced admins will be excited to open a brand new high school. Teachers who want to be in either a brand new facility or to work with a less needy population of kids than the MCPS average will flock there, especially if a good admin is chosen.

It will all be fine.

Agreed it will fall in line with schools like Rockville high and Blair. Not great but decent places. Problem is lots of people over there think North Bethesda is Bethesda and want Bethesda prestige and peers

lol so it’s a goal to have an avg school. God forbid having a great one

Sounds like you think great schools are defined by who they exclude 🤮

Nah, by who it “includes”

No you only care about excluding FARMS kids from your kids' school. You don't care who else goes there.

false. stop projecting your insecurities on others.

So, how do you define it?

DP

great schools are defined by rigorous academic programs and families who value education and community building. these parents of the students promote hard work in the home because that will translate to hard work in the school which will lead to a successful member of society for the benefit of the broader community. they dont rely on the govt to solve every problem for society.

Most families value education. Many schools refuse to offer rigorous academic programs, but that's not the student's or the family's fault. Many of our kdis work hard and may do far better than your kids as they are more resourceful, as they aren't handed everything! Your are the problem. Most families don't rely on the government and by your comments, should families at your school with special needs not get any services for their kids as that's relying on government help and why should rich families get that?

false. look at math proficiency and literacy rates and you tell me they value education and are resourceful. socioeconomic status tends to directly relate to academic success. you hate that fact of life, but it is true. do far better? get over it.
schools do not offer rigor because the community does not demand it. it is incapable to receive it because they are not on grade level proficient. instead they offer 2 way immersion and arts magnets.

whataboutism on the special needs. also known as lowest form of debate.

go project elsewhere. yawn. i'll see myself out

Proficiency and literacy rates are more than parental involvement. It means that the curriculum, teaching style, methods, etc. are not working for these kids and they need more support. Parents who aren't educated still value education, but they may not be able to work with their kids or access resources to get them on track, or if the kids are getting good grades, they don't know their kids aren't reading/writing/math well as the system is set up so poorly right now. Every low-income family/parent I know values education more, not less as it's their child's path to a better life. If you aren't educated yourself, you may not see or know what your child needs or isn't getting at school.

These kids also may have special needs, not identified, as usually it takes parents advocating and getting an advocate or attorney and parents don't have the know-how or resources.

I am in a *W* cluster with Elementary and Middle schools that have the best ratings. And yet I still have to supplement math to my kids. And most everyone around me that are interested in Math do after school math classes.
I now realize that I also need to add a tutor that will teach my kids how to write because they do not do that anymore. As I said, we are in one of the best schools.
If you are not happy with proposed programs, you should consider supplementing. We all do in my neighborhood. Kids are shuffled around after school. That is expensive yes, but even the best schools will not give you everything. Also, there are some free math groups that are run by parent volunteers. There is math club at American University that is also free. You just need to look around and find opportunities.

Now you realize it?

Many of us realized it early. In es you can do it yourself. It’s only harder in ms and hs when they hit upper level math and English. I love how you tell people to supplement when many were long before you. I made sure my kids could read, write and do basic math before entering K so if there was an issue we could get help and remediate it early. These best schools are for course offerings and self segregation. I’d rather save the money for college when so my kids will go debt free.

+1 they spend so much time talking about equity and wondering why there are disparities in test scores. Yeah it's because MCPS fails at educating kids so the parents with money get tutors. Dumbasses.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so amused by the hysterical people posting about Woodward like it's going to be like Kennedy or Watkins Mill.

It will be a perfectly good school no matter what they focus it on. Test scores will be fine. Not as high as the wealthier schools, because they track with SES. But your high achieving kid will do well there and probably have a sizeable cohort.

Experienced admins will be excited to open a brand new high school. Teachers who want to be in either a brand new facility or to work with a less needy population of kids than the MCPS average will flock there, especially if a good admin is chosen.

It will all be fine.

Agreed it will fall in line with schools like Rockville high and Blair. Not great but decent places. Problem is lots of people over there think North Bethesda is Bethesda and want Bethesda prestige and peers

lol so it’s a goal to have an avg school. God forbid having a great one

Sounds like you think great schools are defined by who they exclude 🤮

Nah, by who it “includes”

No you only care about excluding FARMS kids from your kids' school. You don't care who else goes there.

false. stop projecting your insecurities on others.

So, how do you define it?

DP

great schools are defined by rigorous academic programs and families who value education and community building. these parents of the students promote hard work in the home because that will translate to hard work in the school which will lead to a successful member of society for the benefit of the broader community. they dont rely on the govt to solve every problem for society.

Most families value education. Many schools refuse to offer rigorous academic programs, but that's not the student's or the family's fault. Many of our kdis work hard and may do far better than your kids as they are more resourceful, as they aren't handed everything! Your are the problem. Most families don't rely on the government and by your comments, should families at your school with special needs not get any services for their kids as that's relying on government help and why should rich families get that?

false. look at math proficiency and literacy rates and you tell me they value education and are resourceful. socioeconomic status tends to directly relate to academic success. you hate that fact of life, but it is true. do far better? get over it.
schools do not offer rigor because the community does not demand it. it is incapable to receive it because they are not on grade level proficient. instead they offer 2 way immersion and arts magnets.

whataboutism on the special needs. also known as lowest form of debate.

go project elsewhere. yawn. i'll see myself out

Proficiency and literacy rates are more than parental involvement. It means that the curriculum, teaching style, methods, etc. are not working for these kids and they need more support. Parents who aren't educated still value education, but they may not be able to work with their kids or access resources to get them on track, or if the kids are getting good grades, they don't know their kids aren't reading/writing/math well as the system is set up so poorly right now. Every low-income family/parent I know values education more, not less as it's their child's path to a better life. If you aren't educated yourself, you may not see or know what your child needs or isn't getting at school.

These kids also may have special needs, not identified, as usually it takes parents advocating and getting an advocate or attorney and parents don't have the know-how or resources.

I am in a *W* cluster with Elementary and Middle schools that have the best ratings. And yet I still have to supplement math to my kids. And most everyone around me that are interested in Math do after school math classes.
I now realize that I also need to add a tutor that will teach my kids how to write because they do not do that anymore. As I said, we are in one of the best schools.
If you are not happy with proposed programs, you should consider supplementing. We all do in my neighborhood. Kids are shuffled around after school. That is expensive yes, but even the best schools will not give you everything. Also, there are some free math groups that are run by parent volunteers. There is math club at American University that is also free. You just need to look around and find opportunities.

Now you realize it?

Many of us realized it early. In es you can do it yourself. It’s only harder in ms and hs when they hit upper level math and English. I love how you tell people to supplement when many were long before you. I made sure my kids could read, write and do basic math before entering K so if there was an issue we could get help and remediate it early. These best schools are for course offerings and self segregation. I’d rather save the money for college when so my kids will go debt free.

+1 they spend so much time talking about equity and wondering why there are disparities in test scores. Yeah it's because MCPS fails at educating kids so the parents with money get tutors. Dumbasses.

+2 so true. they work against themselves. they have a skewed view of what public education should be and snort the DEI kool aid too much and too often...ironically to the detriment of ALL children

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Take a look at how literacy rates took a nose dive and anxiety rates soared when smart phones/YouTube/social media entered the chat. Kids ***NEED*** parents to get them off screens which are seriously impacting education on every level. Every teacher I know (myself and all of my colleagues included) would love parents to put their energy into getting BOOKS into kids’ hands rather than carting them around to tutors - and my money is on kids are mindlessly scrolling while spending all that extra time in the car. Parents paying for phones which obliterate kids’ attention spans and time they could be having conversations and experiences. Parents paying for therapy for anxiety from the phones and all that tutoring they are paying for. Replace screens with books. Leave smart phones and all the stress/anxiety/health issues that come with them for the adults and let’s see what happens with learning outcomes.