Second round options for Woodward boundary study

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

It it fine. You should move from Wheaton if you don't like it. I think Wheaton can take in more kids. I have 2 there now

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Nobody can explain how they added 500 seats. Edison is a part time program so even if a whole 500 students from Wheaton are attending Edison, they are also attending Wheaton.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Nobody can explain how they added 500 seats. Edison is a part time program so even if a whole 500 students from Wheaton are attending Edison, they are also attending Wheaton.

+1. The new CIP was just released and it has Wheaton's capacity at 2220, and is overenrolled by 467 students.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

I will pick option A.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

I will pick option A.

+1

I like Option A as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

I will pick option A.

+1

I like Option A as well.

A is second best. B still best

[Anonymous]

Folks need to say *why* they are supporting the options they're supporting/why they think it's best, otherwise it's totally unhelpful to people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

People should stop quoting/bumping the post with the inaccurate/misleading summary on utilization. This is the correct summary for folks who care about over-crowding/underutilization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

People should stop quoting/bumping the post with the inaccurate/misleading summary on utilization. This is the correct summary for folks who care about over-crowding/underutilization.

+1

Three out of four options have Wheaton 27% over capacity. Wtaf MCPS

[Anonymous]

The Wheaton numbers are wrong unless there is an explanation regarding the Edison overlap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Wheaton numbers are wrong unless there is an explanation regarding the Edison overlap.

And why would the CIP mention nothing about this apparent Edison space? The numbers from Flo Analytics are not valid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Wheaton numbers are wrong unless there is an explanation regarding the Edison overlap.

And why would the CIP mention nothing about this apparent Edison space? The numbers from Flo Analytics are not valid.

Idk maybe the studies have different goals. Maybe the space is shared and doesn’t require building parameters, which is the focus of the CIP but not the utilization.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Wheaton numbers are wrong unless there is an explanation regarding the Edison overlap.

And why would the CIP mention nothing about this apparent Edison space? The numbers from Flo Analytics are not valid.

+1 why is it during the first round of options they were telling folks there is a "shell space" at Edison that can be built out, to explain why they left Wheaton overcrowded. But the CIP makes no mention of this. And in the second round they just added 500 seats to Wheaton and pretend Wheaton and Edison are the same school? So shady.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Wheaton numbers are wrong unless there is an explanation regarding the Edison overlap.

And why would the CIP mention nothing about this apparent Edison space? The numbers from Flo Analytics are not valid.

Aren’t your kids at Wheaton? Does Wheaton share space with Edison?