Second round options for Woodward boundary study

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
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2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

Then why doesn't the new CIP show Wheaton's capacity as including Edison's?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow Wheaton is pretty bad in academics....

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/maryland/districts/montgomery-county-public-schools/wheaton-high-school-9152

Why are we talking about it in this message board? let's get back to relevancy

I have a kid there. It has some really good teachers and the admin is very good and responsive. They have a large Hispanic population where a lot of the kids struggle with English.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
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2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

They are not the same school. One is a trade school where kids from all over the county come for a half day program. Most aren't affiliated with Wheaton. Wheaton is a high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

They are not the same school. One is a trade school where kids from all over the county come for a half day program. Most aren't affiliated with Wheaton. Wheaton is a high school.

+1 None of the information they have put out there either from the boundary study or the program analysis explains how 500 kids zoned for Wheaton HS (1 out of 5 resident students) will suddenly be attending a different school that currently offers part time programs for a total of 1000 students from the entire county.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

They are not the same school. One is a trade school where kids from all over the county come for a half day program. Most aren't affiliated with Wheaton. Wheaton is a high school.

+1 None of the information they have put out there either from the boundary study or the program analysis explains how 500 kids zoned for Wheaton HS (1 out of 5 resident students) will suddenly be attending a different school that currently offers part time programs for a total of 1000 students from the entire county.

-1 same campus. Intuit that they'll walk 200 ft to where they have space for those 1 in 5

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

They are not the same school. One is a trade school where kids from all over the county come for a half day program. Most aren't affiliated with Wheaton. Wheaton is a high school.

Look at the map. They're the same

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
And
2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

They are not the same school. One is a trade school where kids from all over the county come for a half day program. Most aren't affiliated with Wheaton. Wheaton is a high school.

+1 None of the information they have put out there either from the boundary study or the program analysis explains how 500 kids zoned for Wheaton HS (1 out of 5 resident students) will suddenly be attending a different school that currently offers part time programs for a total of 1000 students from the entire county.

-1 same campus. Intuit that they'll walk 200 ft to where they have space for those 1 in 5

No, Edison is a separate schools that offers CTE programs. Kids that attend Edison come from all over the county. During the program analysis meetings MCPS has specifically said that Edison will remain available to students countywide. 500 is a full half of the current enrollment at Edison, and even if they were forcing 500 resident Wheaton students to attend Edison programs and therefore limit enrollment from the rest of the county, they would still need to take classes at Wheaton HS to earn their high school diploma.

You are acting like Edison is an empty building that isn't being used. Why are you lying?

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do kids from Wheaton do half days at Edison?

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Anonymous wrote:do kids from Wheaton do half days at Edison?

From the "About" page on Edison's website:

Part-time program students attend Edison every day for three class periods and earn 1.5 credits per semester. Transportation is provided. In addition to offering valuable professional certifications and licenses, many programs are articulated with colleges and universities for college credit.

Rising Grade 11 (current Grade 10) students can take advantage of available career programs by applying to Thomas Edison High School of Technology to attend on a part-time basis in Grades 11-12. In this model, students remain enrolled in their home school for core coursework and attend the Edison program for a portion of the day. Once enrolled, students are expected to complete the full program of study.

Countywide programs are available to students from all 25 high schools. Regional programs are available to students from the following clusters: Bethesda-Chevy Chase, Winston Churchill, Walter Johnson, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood, Walt Whitman, Thomas S. Wootton, Paint Branch, Springbrook, Blake, Blair, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Wheaton.

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Anonymous wrote:do kids from Wheaton do half days at Edison?

From the "About" page on Edison's website:

Part-time program students attend Edison every day for three class periods and earn 1.5 credits per semester. Transportation is provided. In addition to offering valuable professional certifications and licenses, many programs are articulated with colleges and universities for college credit.

Rising Grade 11 (current Grade 10) students can take advantage of available career programs by applying to Thomas Edison High School of Technology to attend on a part-time basis in Grades 11-12. In this model, students remain enrolled in their home school for core coursework and attend the Edison program for a portion of the day. Once enrolled, students are expected to complete the full program of study.

Countywide programs are available to students from all 25 high schools. Regional programs are available to students from the following clusters: Bethesda-Chevy Chase, Winston Churchill, Walter Johnson, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood, Walt Whitman, Thomas S. Wootton, Paint Branch, Springbrook, Blake, Blair, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Wheaton.

so.....yes.

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Anonymous wrote:do kids from Wheaton do half days at Edison?

From the "About" page on Edison's website:

Part-time program students attend Edison every day for three class periods and earn 1.5 credits per semester. Transportation is provided. In addition to offering valuable professional certifications and licenses, many programs are articulated with colleges and universities for college credit.

Rising Grade 11 (current Grade 10) students can take advantage of available career programs by applying to Thomas Edison High School of Technology to attend on a part-time basis in Grades 11-12. In this model, students remain enrolled in their home school for core coursework and attend the Edison program for a portion of the day. Once enrolled, students are expected to complete the full program of study.

Countywide programs are available to students from all 25 high schools. Regional programs are available to students from the following clusters: Bethesda-Chevy Chase, Winston Churchill, Walter Johnson, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood, Walt Whitman, Thomas S. Wootton, Paint Branch, Springbrook, Blake, Blair, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Wheaton.

Sounds like they'll be the same school at same address after the new regions with new magnets are implemented. Great idea by mcps.

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Anonymous wrote:do kids from Wheaton do half days at Edison?

From the "About" page on Edison's website:

Part-time program students attend Edison every day for three class periods and earn 1.5 credits per semester. Transportation is provided. In addition to offering valuable professional certifications and licenses, many programs are articulated with colleges and universities for college credit.

Rising Grade 11 (current Grade 10) students can take advantage of available career programs by applying to Thomas Edison High School of Technology to attend on a part-time basis in Grades 11-12. In this model, students remain enrolled in their home school for core coursework and attend the Edison program for a portion of the day. Once enrolled, students are expected to complete the full program of study.

Countywide programs are available to students from all 25 high schools. Regional programs are available to students from the following clusters: Bethesda-Chevy Chase, Winston Churchill, Walter Johnson, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood, Walt Whitman, Thomas S. Wootton, Paint Branch, Springbrook, Blake, Blair, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Wheaton.

Sounds like they'll be the same school at same address after the new regions with new magnets are implemented. Great idea by mcps.

They've explicitly stated Edison will still be available to students countywide so no

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Vote for ALL the schools to be under 100% occupied, not just your own.

Option B is *not* what most people want. It is simply repeated here often by loud, outspoken and entitled families. Option B leaves two area high schools over 100% full while WJ and Woodward are only 75-79% full. Not okay. And not popular.

What are you talking about? All options have schools at above 100%

Option A has Blair, JFK and Wheaton above 100%.

Option B has JFK and Wheaton just a smidge above 100%.

Option C has Blair, JFK, and Wheaton above 100%

option D has Blair and Kennedy above 100%


JFK and Wheaton will be in same region as WJ and Woodward so maybe the magnets balance it under. Option B might be the best (my kids are not in that region)

D is definitely the best option for utilization/avoiding overcrowding. All the others have Kennedy about 175 kids over capacity and Wheaton about 600 kids over capacity. D has Wheaton 300 kids over capacity and Kennedy and Blair right about at capacity (technically 7 kids over for Kennedy and 17 for Blair.)

Wrong. You do not even consider the regions. These schools are appropriately sized.

Don't all the schools have programs? Or is the goal to balance enrollment by having the most motivated and well resourced kids in the DCC schools drive themselves or take transportation that takes an hour + to get to west county schools? This is a terrible idea on so many levels. They grow a backbone and draw better boundaries.

Yeah, my understanding is that they're planning to have roughly the same number of program seats at each high school (except maybe Poolesville, but that's not relevant here), so it's basically a wash for utilization calculations.

Either way, no school should be left over-capacity while they're hundreds of kids under capacity at WJ and Woodward (1000 combined under capacity in some scenarios.). And if they refuse to revise the scenarios further, we should at least unite to support option D, since it leaves Wheaton as the only HS over-capacity (and much less so than in other options) and brings the underutilization at WJ + Whitman down to "only" about 600 kids combined.

You can't do math. Wheaton is fine. Go look at the data.

And go look at the maste development plan.

No, they just try to make it look fine by adding in 500 imaginary seats at Wheaton. Once you subtract those out you can see how hugely over-capacity it is in these options.

There are no imaginary seats. Get over it

Agree. The seats are there. Don't act like it doesn't include the Edison seats. MCPS is transparent about that in the Wheaton numbers. The guy/gal claiming "imaginary seats" is wrong.

The Superintendent's just released proposed CIP lists a capacity of 2,220 for Wheaton HS. Current enrollment is 2,687. According the the MCPS school profiles, in 2023-24 Edison had an enrollment of 968 students.

However, the new boundary options give Wheaton HS a capacity of 2,720. Under the tables for the boundary options are two notes:
1. "Wheaton HS includes the capacity of Edison HS"
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2. "Assumes 500 students attend Wheaton HS for CTE"

Edison HS and Wheaton HS are separate schools. However, there is something called the Wheaton Edison Partnership through which students from 17 high school clusters can choose to attend for 9-12 grade and take classes at both Wheaton and Edison to complete high school as well as a CTE program at Edison.

So I'm confused.

Why do the boundary study tables say that the capacity number includes Edison HS and Wheaton HS? Edison has 1000 students enrolled and they only added 500. Is this because Edison is part time so it actually only has 500 spots of capacity at any given time? If so, is it assumed that a full 1000 students zoned for Wheaton will attend Edison part time from Wheaton HS? Isn't that a ton of students? And they've said Edison will still be available to other clusters so that makes no sense.

Or is it "only" 500 students zoned for Wheaton attending Edison part time (still a ton)? If Edison is a part time program, and 500 students attend that program from Wheaton HS, won't they still be at Wheaton HS for some courses? If so, why do the boundary options assume that Edison relieves 500 seats of capacity at Wheaton HS?

Call. Email MCPS. Ask them for clarification. This isn't the right forum. But this is getting old on here. Nobody cares

Edison and Wheaton are on the same property

MCPS should offer an explanation in writing to the community, not some BS excuse that they can't be held accountable for

They're essential the same school at the same place. They have some programmatic ideas to use it for capacity. Get over it already.

Then why doesn't the new CIP show Wheaton's capacity as including Edison's?

does the CIP show Edison's capacity?

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Anonymous wrote:do kids from Wheaton do half days at Edison?

From the "About" page on Edison's website:

Part-time program students attend Edison every day for three class periods and earn 1.5 credits per semester. Transportation is provided. In addition to offering valuable professional certifications and licenses, many programs are articulated with colleges and universities for college credit.

Rising Grade 11 (current Grade 10) students can take advantage of available career programs by applying to Thomas Edison High School of Technology to attend on a part-time basis in Grades 11-12. In this model, students remain enrolled in their home school for core coursework and attend the Edison program for a portion of the day. Once enrolled, students are expected to complete the full program of study.

Countywide programs are available to students from all 25 high schools. Regional programs are available to students from the following clusters: Bethesda-Chevy Chase, Winston Churchill, Walter Johnson, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood, Walt Whitman, Thomas S. Wootton, Paint Branch, Springbrook, Blake, Blair, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Wheaton.

Sounds like they'll be the same school at same address after the new regions with new magnets are implemented. Great idea by mcps.

They've explicitly stated Edison will still be available to students countywide so no

And the balance to Wheaton per the data in the boundary study. So yes

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Anonymous wrote:do kids from Wheaton do half days at Edison?

From the "About" page on Edison's website:

Part-time program students attend Edison every day for three class periods and earn 1.5 credits per semester. Transportation is provided. In addition to offering valuable professional certifications and licenses, many programs are articulated with colleges and universities for college credit.

Rising Grade 11 (current Grade 10) students can take advantage of available career programs by applying to Thomas Edison High School of Technology to attend on a part-time basis in Grades 11-12. In this model, students remain enrolled in their home school for core coursework and attend the Edison program for a portion of the day. Once enrolled, students are expected to complete the full program of study.

Countywide programs are available to students from all 25 high schools. Regional programs are available to students from the following clusters: Bethesda-Chevy Chase, Winston Churchill, Walter Johnson, Richard Montgomery, Rockville, Sherwood, Walt Whitman, Thomas S. Wootton, Paint Branch, Springbrook, Blake, Blair, Einstein, Northwood, Kennedy, and Wheaton.

Sounds like they'll be the same school at same address after the new regions with new magnets are implemented. Great idea by mcps.

They've explicitly stated Edison will still be available to students countywide so no

And the balance to Wheaton per the data in the boundary study. So yes

Why would potentially overflow Wheaton kids want to go to Woodward or WJ? Edison is right on same campus