Fairfax County Double Murder

[Anonymous]

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Sincerely trying to be objective here but this makes no sense to me. BB already had Ryan incapacitated, but he told AP to go get his (other?) gun from the safe, which she would have access to and be able to open? Why would there be any need for both of them, one of them presumably with little to no firearm experience, to have guns drawn on an already-shot JR?

Exactly. BB, with trained firearm experience, recognizes someone as a lethal threat and acts accordingly, but needs assistance from a 23 yo with no firearm experience who has to go retrieve a securely stored weapon to finish the job? Ludicrous.

This is the craziest part of the whole story. BB shoots him and blinds him, but is still alive. Instead of shooting him again or making sure JR is no longer a threat by other means, he instructs the AP to get another gun and to finish the job herself. That is complete nonsense.

JR's poor mom and grandmother having to read that. Was it some code of silence kind of thing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://nationalzoo.si.edu/visit

Timed entry passes required since covid for National Zoo in DC.

I’m sorry but this is laughable. When is the last time you went to the national zoo? They don’t even man the parking lots anymore much less pay people to check “timed tickets”

NP. I went to the zoo in may and needed a pre-purchased parking pass, which was checked. Not sure how much has changed since then but the lots were almost full by 9:30. I’m not defending any part of their story but merely stating zoo facts.

Sorry if that same across as rude but I’ve been multiple times in the last couple years and they are certainly not checking timed passes. Also, there is plenty of street parking available so a ticket or pass isn’t fully required to visit the zoo. And on top of it all, there is the metro

I don't understand why we are arguing about this - it doesn't matter if the zoo is checking passes or not. Any mom planning a trip from Herndon to the zoo is going to get a timed pass because it's on the website and they aren't going to travel for the better part of an hour on a whim. The AP knew this and likely even had passes as part of the cover for this plan.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://nationalzoo.si.edu/visit

Timed entry passes required since covid for National Zoo in DC.

I’m sorry but this is laughable. When is the last time you went to the national zoo? They don’t even man the parking lots anymore much less pay people to check “timed tickets”

NP. I went to the zoo in may and needed a pre-purchased parking pass, which was checked. Not sure how much has changed since then but the lots were almost full by 9:30. I’m not defending any part of their story but merely stating zoo facts.

Sorry if that same across as rude but I’ve been multiple times in the last couple years and they are certainly not checking timed passes. Also, there is plenty of street parking available so a ticket or pass isn’t fully required to visit the zoo. And on top of it all, there is the metro

I don't understand why we are arguing about this - it doesn't matter if the zoo is checking passes or not. Any mom planning a trip from Herndon to the zoo is going to get a timed pass because it's on the website and they aren't going to travel for the better part of an hour on a whim. The AP knew this and likely even had passes as part of the cover for this plan.

Being part of a plan is all that makes sense because no one would really choose to take a four year old to the zoo in the cold and dark of a winter morning - that starts with an hour in rush hour traffic to boot. That a just nuts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://nationalzoo.si.edu/visit

Timed entry passes required since covid for National Zoo in DC.

I’m sorry but this is laughable. When is the last time you went to the national zoo? They don’t even man the parking lots anymore much less pay people to check “timed tickets”

NP. I went to the zoo in may and needed a pre-purchased parking pass, which was checked. Not sure how much has changed since then but the lots were almost full by 9:30. I’m not defending any part of their story but merely stating zoo facts.

Sorry if that same across as rude but I’ve been multiple times in the last couple years and they are certainly not checking timed passes. Also, there is plenty of street parking available so a ticket or pass isn’t fully required to visit the zoo. And on top of it all, there is the metro

I don't understand why we are arguing about this - it doesn't matter if the zoo is checking passes or not. Any mom planning a trip from Herndon to the zoo is going to get a timed pass because it's on the website and they aren't going to travel for the better part of an hour on a whim. The AP knew this and likely even had passes as part of the cover for this plan.

Being part of a plan is all that makes sense because no one would really choose to take a four year old to the zoo in the cold and dark of a winter morning - that starts with an hour in rush hour traffic to boot. That a just nuts.

I agree BUT out of curiosity I looked at the weather that day. It was high 58 so actually a nice day for February. Still, obviously it’s an alibi AND not really what happened.

[Anonymous]

How does the story they told fit with LE saying BB was out of the home when JR was shot?

[Anonymous]

The zoo thing is plausible, I guess, but only just.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does the story they told fit with LE saying BB was out of the home when JR was shot?

Starbucks?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does the story they told fit with LE saying BB was out of the home when JR was shot?

Starbucks?

Oh!!! I see…. Nevermind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The zoo thing is plausible, I guess, but only just.

I still don’t get that piece at all, are they saying they were rushing out to do a quick morning trip to the zoo before school at 9? That seems totally unbelievable to me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does the story they told fit with LE saying BB was out of the home when JR was shot?

It doesn't, because the AP's attorney is claiming BB shot JR first.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does the story they told fit with LE saying BB was out of the home when JR was shot?

It doesn't, because the AP's attorney is claiming BB shot JR first.

LE/prosecutor must think their evidence on that point is solid, they have said he was out of the house and him not being there seems to be the basis for charging AP with 2nd degree murder of JR.

This was just a short hearing trying to get her sprung. Lots more to come out it seems. Government only showed hand as much as needed to keep her behind bars. The 2nd passport was pretty damning on the flight risk point.

The thought that the child could have walked in on the scene at any time is horrifying, she was a part of the alibi, it seems. but this all could have gone down with her OUT of the house. Or, you know, divorce was an option.

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Anonymous wrote:The zoo thing is plausible, I guess, but only just.

I still don’t get that piece at all, are they saying they were rushing out to do a quick morning trip to the zoo before school at 9? That seems totally unbelievable to me

instead of

was alibi

kid was in preschool not taking sat

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://nationalzoo.si.edu/visit

Timed entry passes required since covid for National Zoo in DC.

I’m sorry but this is laughable. When is the last time you went to the national zoo? They don’t even man the parking lots anymore much less pay people to check “timed tickets”

NP. I went to the zoo in may and needed a pre-purchased parking pass, which was checked. Not sure how much has changed since then but the lots were almost full by 9:30. I’m not defending any part of their story but merely stating zoo facts.

Sorry if that same across as rude but I’ve been multiple times in the last couple years and they are certainly not checking timed passes. Also, there is plenty of street parking available so a ticket or pass isn’t fully required to visit the zoo. And on top of it all, there is the metro

OMG. Someone who lives in Herndon and has a foreign au pair with four year old child that are making the long drive in to the city to go to the zoo is absolutely going to buy a parking pass and sign up for the free timed entry tickets to be 100% sure their kid can go to the zoo. They're not just going to say "end, wing it, I'm sure you'll get in, whatevs!". Why is this so difficult for you to understand???

Yes totally makes sense to drive into dc, to the zoo, in the middle of winter and on a school day, when this child was expected to be in class at 9am

LADY. Chill the f* out. I was just explaining that most people don't live next door to the zoo and don't ignore what is written on the website. If I was going to the zoo (which is about 45 minutes from where I live), I would also pay for parking and sign up for timed entry. My point is literally just that it's not an UNUSUAL explanation. Even if it's fake, if it's a stupid alibi, it's NOT unrealistic. And as I said earlier, the last time I went to the zoo was in January. And FINALLY - again, I don't care if the alibi is fake or not, it's TOTALLY NORMAL for someone to not send their kid to preschool on a week day. My kids' preschool was open on federal holidays, but I would keep them home on days I had off of work, for example. All of these are TOTALLY NORMAL explanations, even if Juliana made them up as an alibi. It's just crazy people who don't live in the DC suburbs who think "no one would do this!!!". People do it, lady, they sure do. Now sit down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The zoo thing is plausible, I guess, but only just.

I still don’t get that piece at all, are they saying they were rushing out to do a quick morning trip to the zoo before school at 9? That seems totally unbelievable to me

IT'S PRESCHOOL. OMG, what is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As many have stated, yes the zoo does still require timed entry passes to get in. but the buildings don't open until 9, so going that early in the winter means you are wandering around outside without seeing really anything for at least an hour. it just doesn't make sense.

Parking-wise it's relatively easy to find street parking in mt. pleasant, especially in the morning on a weekday when people are leaving for work. I haven't read that much, but did they say anything about planning to park? I'm just not sure why that matters here.

Again, I also don't believe the story, but if you're driving from Herndon to the national zoo, it's going to take you at least an hour. The earlier you leave, the better the traffic. I would definitely leave as early as possible and just take my kid to Starbucks for 30 minutes in order to avoid sitting in traffic for 90 minutes rather than 60 minutes.