Murder at Lululemon in Bethesda

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What makes you think that the people on this thread are all women?


Not all...just mostly. I am basing that solely on the pronouns and the name of the the website. I'm certain that there are quite a few male posters as well. But most of the constant back and fourth i have seen on this thread from day one are women who somehow turn it into something about them. Just go back and reread the thread.

Not trying to cause more drama, just trying to eliminate it for everyone's sake. But such is the life we live. You can choose to be apart of it, or chose to laugh it off and carry on your merry way. To which I say, good night boys and girls!


Is this the third of fourth time you've announced you're leaving?

A tip: the impact of leaving the room in a huff is generally considered greatest if you don't keep returning and slamming the door again. "Now you've done it, you DCUMs you. This time I'm REALLY leaving!"
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not all violence is racial, obviously. I'm fairly certain most of us know that. The girls spinal cord was almost severed, there is some racial anger there. And another one for this, and another one for that.......
I really don't believe the victim would have been subjected to such brutality if the victim was black. Say what you wish.


Because white people aren't capable of the same kind of brutality. OK.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not all violence is racial, obviously. I'm fairly certain most of us know that. The girls spinal cord was almost severed, there is some racial anger there. And another one for this, and another one for that.......
I really don't believe the victim would have been subjected to such brutality if the victim was black. Say what you wish.


Because white people aren't capable of the same kind of brutality. OK.


I think the PP meant if both women were black..
Anonymous
If both women were black, I guarantee different results. You can deny or be as facetious or obtuse as you want, but this isn't a game. A shame that you take it so lightly.
Anonymous
how is this convo still going on???
Anonymous
Why must rage or hatred be attributed to race? What about authority figures, bosses, managers generally? People who wear blue too often? Women in successful relationships? Grad students? People who wear nail polish? Those with a particular type of car or those in particular economic circumstances? Condescending people? Critical people? Passive aggressive? Jokers? There are any number of random personality traits, life circumstances, behavioral tendencies, relative positions etc. that one could harbor lifelong hate or resentment over. Race is just one of many ways in which these women were different.

Personally, if I were guessing as to the hated characteristic in this case, it would be "someone in a position of power who is keeping me from getting what I want" - manager (authority figure) preventing/exposing theft, "ruining" things
for Brittany.

And once you've gone down the road of killing someone, it's not a hard leap to go from "I hate you authority figure/plan ruiner" to "I HATE YOU, PERSON WHO FORCED ME INTO THIS POSITION (of being a murderer)", and really amping up the rage. Think basic domestic violence. The victim "made" the abuser hurt them. This makes the abuser even angrier at the victim...followed by more abuse.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What makes you think that the people on this thread are all women?


Not all...just mostly. I am basing that solely on the pronouns and the name of the the website. I'm certain that there are quite a few male posters as well. But most of the constant back and fourth i have seen on this thread from day one are women who somehow turn it into something about them. Just go back and reread the thread.

Not trying to cause more drama, just trying to eliminate it for everyone's sake. But such is the life we live. You can choose to be apart of it, or chose to laugh it off and carry on your merry way. To which I say, good night boys and girls!


Is this the third of fourth time you've announced you're leaving?

A tip: the impact of leaving the room in a huff is generally considered greatest if you don't keep returning and slamming the door again. "Now you've done it, you DCUMs you. This time I'm REALLY leaving!"


Wow...way to go and prove her point that the people on here are just downright mean and catty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If both women were black, I guarantee different results. You can deny or be as facetious or obtuse as you want, but this isn't a game. A shame that you take it so lightly.


You can "guarantee" that you can predict the behavior of a total stranger. That is priceless.
Anonymous
So a white person has never savagely murdered a white person? A black person has never savagely murdered a black person? I don't get the rage = racial connection at all.
Anonymous
What about the white guy who savagely murdered the Asian grad student at Yale?
Is it racial as well?
Anonymous
I'm a retail store manager in the area and check bags every night. It's simple policy at every company I've worked at. Even though every associate knows it, I have found stolen merch in bags. People who steal do it for personal gain, but also enjoy the rush of possibly getting caught. She obviously stole in the past and got away with it. I have terminated individuals for theft and they all became verbally hostile. It's tough because we do put ourselves at risk. I was so scared of one of them, I had mall security escort me to my car everyday for months. I let the other retailers know about him so in case they saw him loitering in the area, they could alert me. I was in fear until I changed companies. We say "What if..." but if someone wants to kill, they will find a way. This animal would have one day found a victim, even if she never met Jayna. So devastating.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I think every parent, who is not delusional, and who has kids that are older than 2 knows that we don't control the way they turn out. We influence but we do not control. I have deep sympathy for Brittany's family as well as Jayna's. Also, anyone who has a mentally ill family member understands that parents do not have any control at all over certain things. Normal people do not just snap and kill their bosses. This was not the act of a sane woman.


I agree with this. My younger brother is a total mess and causes my parents so much distress. He was normal until he was about 27 and then his life fell apart. He had a great job, had grad school paid for, but used the company credit card to charge non company related items and was fired. He is now 33 and lives in my parent's basement. He's been there for over a year. He steals from my parents (money, checks, credit cards,) lies, and has an awful temper. He used to have a close circle of friends and now has alienated all of them because I am sure he's stolen or borrowed money from them and then never pays them back.

My parents have sought therapy and the therapist has urged them to kick him out, but my mom won't let my dad do it. We just found out my mom has terminal cancer. He was "nice" to her for about three days after we found out the cancer was back and then started in on her again when she wouldn't give him money. I just want to throttle him, for lack of a better word. I think he's bipolar or has some other kind of mental illness. Either that or he is on drugs. We cannot force him to go and see anyone because of his age. My husband and I are going to propose paying for an apt. for six months under the condition that he goes to a therapist to get evaluated and then for regular visits and actively pursues getting a job. He's cost my parents about $150,000.00 over the last six years between credit card debts, living expenses, etc. He has such bad credit that he cannot even open a bank account.

It breaks my heart to think about all the stress my mom is under with her illness and with worrying about him.

I've digressed somewhat, but my point is that the parents should not be blamed. My brother grew up in a stable home with two loving parents who gave him everything. He went to top private schools, a great college, and had emotional and financial support all his life. Our parents never missed a game, a play, or anything important in our lives. We ate meals together every night growing up and were very close to our extended family. My parents sacrificed a lot for us and I am so grateful to them for everything. He says that they don't support him and that they are the ones with the problem.

I turned out fine (I think,) on the other hand. I have two healthy children, a great marriage, a job I like, a close circle of friends, and we are emotionally and financially stable.

I am so sorry; I have an irrational fear of one of my beautiful children turning into the runaway train you describe. Especially if as a result of drug or mental illness. I can't imagine the anguish. My prayers for you and your beautiful family--including your brother who sounds like he needs serious help and doesn't even realize it.

I hate to say this, but your fear is not irrational. My brother too is a total mess. We are 3 kids in our family, raised the same way and my brother is a DISASTER. My parents have spent thousands and thousands on thearapy. He is now 28 and completely cut off, unlike this PP. My brothers verbal abuse of our mother makes everyone LIVID. My parents did everything they could, my brother was just born rotten. Sometimes it happens.

I too worry about one of my children who is little, but seems to have huge anger issues. We are doing our best, but kids are products of our parenting to a certain point, but they are individuals none the less. I think nature trumps nurture. It is like dieting.....75% nature, 25% nurture. We as parents can only do our best, the rest is out of our control.

PP, do you think your brother suffers from mental illness or do you think it's his nature?



New Poster: I am the mother of 22 year old twin daughters. One is in her last year of college wwas awarded a scholarship from her highschool and is great fun to be with. Her sister has been trouble since the eignth grade: lying, stealing, had a baby at 19 and has never held a job. I've been at my wits end for years. She maniulates counselors and behavior specialists into thinking she is normal. I don't know if she is mentally ill, or was just born that way. She did not start this behavior until middle school.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Not all violence is racial, obviously. I'm fairly certain most of us know that. The girls spinal cord was almost severed, there is some racial anger there. And another one for this, and another one for that.......
I really don't believe the victim would have been subjected to such brutality if the victim was black. Say what you wish.


Sins of the father perhaps?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:

I think every parent, who is not delusional, and who has kids that are older than 2 knows that we don't control the way they turn out. We influence but we do not control.




Excepting the people who have children who happen to be bright and well behaved. THOSE parents believe its because of the way they are parenting their children that their children are bright and well behaved.
Anonymous
I haven't read all the posts, but has it been mentioned how ironic it is that Brittany, someone who obviously has serious anger and self control issues, was working at a store that is all abut YOGA? Yoga, the practice that is all about self awareness, self control, achieving inner peace, namaste. How did she come to work there? Its so incongruous, isn't it?

I wonder if this was a drug fueled rage? Not as if that is any less incongruous.
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