Taylor's Swift's new album - let's GOOOOO

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My take is that this album was rushed and phoned in to get under Matty Healy’s skin and prove how happy she’s been since he ghosted her. The whole thing feels like the musical equivalent of posting staged party photos and flashy couple pics with your new man just to show your ex how “great” you’re doing. Otherwise, why on earth would she be bragging about her boyfriend’s manhood in her lyrics? Nobody cares about it apart from an insecure ex. It did backfire though. This album makes Taylor sound insufferable, juvenile and arrogant. And the fact that she either misinterpreted or misrepresented what Charlie’s song was about makes the fans question everything we know from only her perspective. Who knows how unfairly she has represented her issues with Jake Gyllenhaal, Joe, Matty etc.


Bottom line, she's old, washed up and cringe. Only reason her handlers were able to extend her fame into her late 30s is with that complete hoax about "Taylor's version." What is Taylor's version? Those are called greatest hits for washed up artists. Instead her team repackaged her greatest hits with this phony con all of her fanatics bought hook, line, and sinker. If you think ruthless record labels would let artists re-record their old hit songs to steal the master's you are hopelessly gullible. Her fans still believe that nonsense after being duped out of $$$$$.


Annnnd she's back! You seem completely confused about why she re-recorded her music. Not to mention, you forgot your usual "astroturf!!!" accusations.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Album is a flop. Once she blew the initial PR and bot activity, nobody really cares.


It's so funny how you keep coming back to make the same ridiculous claim over and over. She really lives in your mind rent-free, doesn't she?


DP

It’s so funny how you think only one person dislikes the album. 😂😂



I don't think that at all. But it's obvious who the one particular person on this thread is.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Album is a flop. Once she blew the initial PR and bot activity, nobody really cares.


It's so funny how you keep coming back to make the same ridiculous claim over and over. She really lives in your mind rent-free, doesn't she?


What is up with the attempts at controlling/ridiculing others thoughts? Or deleting posts you don’t like? Get a grip even Taylor says anytime you say her name, she gets money.


No one is trying to control your thoughts - but when you make false claims, you're going to be called out on them. You keep insisting this album is a "flop," when all reports simply say reception has been mixed. Commercially, anyway, it's been an enormous success.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-the-life-of-a-showgirl-critic-reviews-1236392461/


DP

You are assuming the poster meant it is a financial flop.

“The album is an artistic flop.” That’s an opinion. You are welcome to have a different opinion but you should not squash someone’s viewpoint.



Except that person didn't say that, did they? They said, "Album is a flop." And I pointed out, critical reception has been mixed.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I've done three-four listens. Fate of Ophelia is only "good" song though I like actually romantic too and, to a lesser degree, cancelled. The rest, including cancelled and actually romantic, are all fillers.




Those are my favorites too. But I’m old enough to remember that when new albums were released, 1-2 great songs was all we expected. We almost never liked or listened to the other songs. We couldn’t even name them. So it’s impossible for me to be disappointed about that.


Very true. I remember back in the dark ages, joining the Columbia Record Club (or whatever it was called) to buy CDs. It was always painful buying an entire CD when I knew there would only be one or two songs on each that I liked. At least with streaming, you can just play the songs you like and ignore the rest. My favorites are Fate of Ophelia, Life of a Showgirl, Eldest Daughter, Wi$h Li$t, Ruin the Friendship, Opalite, and Honey. Hate the others.


In the dark ages and then you give a CD example? What about even further back with "the B side" meant something? The B side had all the crap songs. Easily half the album was crap.


Are you ok?


Are you totally new to how the music industry works?


Huh? No, I'm quite familiar with how the music industry works. And back in the day, I found all the hidden gems on the B sides. Do you just enjoy arguing and picking fights for no reason?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


There wasn't a place to go on and on and on about the music you didn't like. You just didn't listen to it.


There also was not a place to create parasocial relationships with your fans. Musicians had private lives and were not doing constant papp walks spread across the internet that did not exist back then.

Did Michael Jackson or Dolly Parton or Madonna create forty version of an album? That also was not done back then, I do not think. But let me know if I am wrong.

Were there so many diss tracks back then? I don't recall musicians making it so obvious who they were dissing in their songs ("Dear John" cough cough) or encouraging their minions to dislike their old boyfriends...



To be fair, her haters have an intense parasocial relationship with her too.


100% this. Much more so, in fact. There are some truly unhinged haters.
Anonymous
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Why is Gabbriette posing like Taylor in the tub? Weird.


Don't know, but she is incredibly off-putting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


There wasn't a place to go on and on and on about the music you didn't like. You just didn't listen to it.


Exactly.


Of course you did. You HAD to, the radio stations were in sync and sometimes even if you changed the channel, the same song was playing across town. It wasn’t like every car had a tape deck or 8 track, some just had the radio.


The radio stations only played the 1-2 popular songs off an album. So if you didn’t like one of those, you’re correct. But we’re taking about the current expectation that every song on an album be excellent or a banger or clever. Radio stations ignored most of the songs too.
Anonymous
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Why is Gabbriette posing like Taylor in the tub? Weird.


Nobody is over it. Love story of the decade.
Anonymous
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Why is Gabbriette posing like Taylor in the tub? Weird.


Nobody is over it. Love story of the decade.


She is grotesque. Looks like she lives on heroin and cigarettes.
Anonymous
The person that thinks the masters thing is fake... what is it that you don't believe?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The person that thinks the masters thing is fake... what is it that you don't believe?


She claimed her masters were sold to scooter braun without being offered to her first and without her knowledge. In reality they were offered to her first in an extended deal with her label that she refused andthere is correspondence between her and the label talking about the sale of her masters alongside the label(of which she and her father were major shareholders)

Taylor just pushed back on a deal she didn't like using her large public platform to get sympathy and paint a narrative of the evil patriarchal businessmen controlling her work.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:The person that thinks the masters thing is fake... what is it that you don't believe?


She claimed her masters were sold to scooter braun without being offered to her first and without her knowledge. In reality they were offered to her first in an extended deal with her label that she refused andthere is correspondence between her and the label talking about the sale of her masters alongside the label(of which she and her father were major shareholders)

Taylor just pushed back on a deal she didn't like using her large public platform to get sympathy and paint a narrative of the evil patriarchal businessmen controlling her work.


That's fair. I found it whiny of her to complain about them selling the masters. They owned them and had the right. As she had the right to rerecord, which I find clever. I'd rather her take the perspective of someone who made a boss move than an aggrieved party.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

Why is Gabbriette posing like Taylor in the tub? Weird.


Nobody is over it. Love story of the decade.


She is grotesque. Looks like she lives on heroin and cigarettes.


Im not a fan. But taylor is referencing her at the spagetti dinner in her album resl3aae photos and matty is referencing ttpd on the glasgow stage. The only one who seens out of the loop is travis . . . except when taylor dresses him like matty or makes him do signarure matty poses.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The person that thinks the masters thing is fake... what is it that you don't believe?


She claimed her masters were sold to scooter braun without being offered to her first and without her knowledge. In reality they were offered to her first in an extended deal with her label that she refused andthere is correspondence between her and the label talking about the sale of her masters alongside the label(of which she and her father were major shareholders)

Taylor just pushed back on a deal she didn't like using her large public platform to get sympathy and paint a narrative of the evil patriarchal businessmen controlling her work.


That's fair. I found it whiny of her to complain about them selling the masters. They owned them and had the right. As she had the right to rerecord, which I find clever. I'd rather her take the perspective of someone who made a boss move than an aggrieved party.


I was your father figure
We drank that brown liquor
You made a deal with this devil turns out my dick's bigger
You want a fight, you found it
I got the place surrounded
You'll be sleeping with the fishes before you know you're drowning
Whose portrait's on the mantle?
Who covered up your scandals?
Mistake my kindness for weakness and find your card cancelled
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Album is a flop. Once she blew the initial PR and bot activity, nobody really cares.


It's so funny how you keep coming back to make the same ridiculous claim over and over. She really lives in your mind rent-free, doesn't she?


What is up with the attempts at controlling/ridiculing others thoughts? Or deleting posts you don’t like? Get a grip even Taylor says anytime you say her name, she gets money.


No one is trying to control your thoughts - but when you make false claims, you're going to be called out on them. You keep insisting this album is a "flop," when all reports simply say reception has been mixed. Commercially, anyway, it's been an enormous success.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/music/music-news/taylor-swift-the-life-of-a-showgirl-critic-reviews-1236392461/


DP

You are assuming the poster meant it is a financial flop.

“The album is an artistic flop.” That’s an opinion. You are welcome to have a different opinion but you should not squash someone’s viewpoint.



Except that person didn't say that, did they? They said, "Album is a flop." And I pointed out, critical reception has been mixed.



I”m the PP who had a post about mind control deleted. I posted in response to the living rent free in someone’s head. They didn’t like it.

I am not the same PP who called the album a flop. I’m sure it was a resounding monetary success.

When the person who replied about “living rent free in your head” They were not making a point about critical about the success of an album, they were making fun of someone for having thoughts that run contrary to their own and attempting to control people’s thoughts and opinions using derogatory statements to make them change their mind. Swifties do this a lot. I bet you can think of a huge political movement that is engaging in similar tactics.
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