Taylor's Swift's new album - let's GOOOOO

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


There wasn't a place to go on and on and on about the music you didn't like. You just didn't listen to it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


There wasn't a place to go on and on and on about the music you didn't like. You just didn't listen to it.


There also was not a place to create parasocial relationships with your fans. Musicians had private lives and were not doing constant papp walks spread across the internet that did not exist back then.

Did Michael Jackson or Dolly Parton or Madonna create forty version of an album? That also was not done back then, I do not think. But let me know if I am wrong.

Were there so many diss tracks back then? I don't recall musicians making it so obvious who they were dissing in their songs ("Dear John" cough cough) or encouraging their minions to dislike their old boyfriends...

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My take is that this album was rushed and phoned in to get under Matty Healy’s skin and prove how happy she’s been since he ghosted her. The whole thing feels like the musical equivalent of posting staged party photos and flashy couple pics with your new man just to show your ex how “great” you’re doing. Otherwise, why on earth would she be bragging about her boyfriend’s manhood in her lyrics? Nobody cares about it apart from an insecure ex. It did backfire though. This album makes Taylor sound insufferable, juvenile and arrogant. And the fact that she either misinterpreted or misrepresented what Charlie’s song was about makes the fans question everything we know from only her perspective. Who knows how unfairly she has represented her issues with Jake Gyllenhaal, Joe, Matty etc.


This sounds like some major overthinking.


Thinking about art or “art” is not a problem or “overthinking.”

I should hope people would think and have something to say about the songs.





Maybe the whole point was to provoke thought, which seems to have been very successful.


TLOAS certainly opened my eyes wider, so yes it succeeded at that.

She started to lose me when she created an album that made a clock if you bought four of them. I thought THAT was cray cray. Then, she came out with FORTY variations to keep other performers off the top of the charts. Then, her minions are all smug she is topping the charts.

And this is from a performer whose dad bought copies of her first album (thousands??) to make it look popular.

So, yes, this provoked the thought in me that I liked her Joe albums and Midnights, and I'll be happy about some songs from those. But I can't support this person.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


There wasn't a place to go on and on and on about the music you didn't like. You just didn't listen to it.


There also was not a place to create parasocial relationships with your fans. Musicians had private lives and were not doing constant papp walks spread across the internet that did not exist back then.

Did Michael Jackson or Dolly Parton or Madonna create forty version of an album? That also was not done back then, I do not think. But let me know if I am wrong.

Were there so many diss tracks back then? I don't recall musicians making it so obvious who they were dissing in their songs ("Dear John" cough cough) or encouraging their minions to dislike their old boyfriends...



To be fair, her haters have an intense parasocial relationship with her too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


There wasn't a place to go on and on and on about the music you didn't like. You just didn't listen to it.


There also was not a place to create parasocial relationships with your fans. Musicians had private lives and were not doing constant papp walks spread across the internet that did not exist back then.

Did Michael Jackson or Dolly Parton or Madonna create forty version of an album? That also was not done back then, I do not think. But let me know if I am wrong.

Were there so many diss tracks back then? I don't recall musicians making it so obvious who they were dissing in their songs ("Dear John" cough cough) or encouraging their minions to dislike their old boyfriends...



To be fair, her haters have an intense parasocial relationship with her too.


It's actually romantic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My take is that this album was rushed and phoned in to get under Matty Healy’s skin and prove how happy she’s been since he ghosted her. The whole thing feels like the musical equivalent of posting staged party photos and flashy couple pics with your new man just to show your ex how “great” you’re doing. Otherwise, why on earth would she be bragging about her boyfriend’s manhood in her lyrics? Nobody cares about it apart from an insecure ex. It did backfire though. This album makes Taylor sound insufferable, juvenile and arrogant. And the fact that she either misinterpreted or misrepresented what Charlie’s song was about makes the fans question everything we know from only her perspective. Who knows how unfairly she has represented her issues with Jake Gyllenhaal, Joe, Matty etc.


Bottom line, she's old, washed up and cringe. Only reason her handlers were able to extend her fame into her late 30s is with that complete hoax about "Taylor's version." What is Taylor's version? Those are called greatest hits for washed up artists. Instead her team repackaged her greatest hits with this phony con all of her fanatics bought hook, line, and sinker. If you think ruthless record labels would let artists re-record their old hit songs to steal the master's you are hopelessly gullible. Her fans still believe that nonsense after being duped out of $$$$$.


You have multiple screws loose.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


There wasn't a place to go on and on and on about the music you didn't like. You just didn't listen to it.


There also was not a place to create parasocial relationships with your fans. Musicians had private lives and were not doing constant papp walks spread across the internet that did not exist back then.

Did Michael Jackson or Dolly Parton or Madonna create forty version of an album? That also was not done back then, I do not think. But let me know if I am wrong.

Were there so many diss tracks back then? I don't recall musicians making it so obvious who they were dissing in their songs ("Dear John" cough cough) or encouraging their minions to dislike their old boyfriends...



To be fair, her haters have an intense parasocial relationship with her too.


It's actually romantic.


OK, this wasn’t clever the first one million times it was repeated on social media.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


There wasn't a place to go on and on and on about the music you didn't like. You just didn't listen to it.


There also was not a place to create parasocial relationships with your fans. Musicians had private lives and were not doing constant papp walks spread across the internet that did not exist back then.

Did Michael Jackson or Dolly Parton or Madonna create forty version of an album? That also was not done back then, I do not think. But let me know if I am wrong.

Were there so many diss tracks back then? I don't recall musicians making it so obvious who they were dissing in their songs ("Dear John" cough cough) or encouraging their minions to dislike their old boyfriends...



To be fair, her haters have an intense parasocial relationship with her too.


It's actually romantic.


OK, this wasn’t clever the first one million times it was repeated on social media.


It's pretty clever.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


There wasn't a place to go on and on and on about the music you didn't like. You just didn't listen to it.


There also was not a place to create parasocial relationships with your fans. Musicians had private lives and were not doing constant papp walks spread across the internet that did not exist back then.

Did Michael Jackson or Dolly Parton or Madonna create forty version of an album? That also was not done back then, I do not think. But let me know if I am wrong.

Were there so many diss tracks back then? I don't recall musicians making it so obvious who they were dissing in their songs ("Dear John" cough cough) or encouraging their minions to dislike their old boyfriends...



To be fair, her haters have an intense parasocial relationship with her too.


It's actually romantic.


OK, this wasn’t clever the first one million times it was repeated on social media.


It's pretty clever.


The bar is astonishingly low
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


People have always dissected music this way, well before TS or before the internet. Music criticism has been a thing for centuries.

You just didn't seek it out, participate, or care. I guarantee that whoever your favorite artists of the 80s, 90s, and 00s were, someone out there was picking apart their albums somewhere. Whether it was an official review in Spin or some local weekly, or just some music nerd spouting off on Tumblr or in an email to her friend.

Have you never seen High Fidelity? People LOVE talking about and critiquing music.
Anonymous


Why is Gabbriette posing like Taylor in the tub? Weird.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


People have always dissected music this way, well before TS or before the internet. Music criticism has been a thing for centuries.

You just didn't seek it out, participate, or care. I guarantee that whoever your favorite artists of the 80s, 90s, and 00s were, someone out there was picking apart their albums somewhere. Whether it was an official review in Spin or some local weekly, or just some music nerd spouting off on Tumblr or in an email to her friend.

Have you never seen High Fidelity? People LOVE talking about and critiquing music.



Written reviews existed, yes. But the internet has made everyone think they know everything and need to weigh in. The internet peaked a long time ago and now it’s ruining us.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


There wasn't a place to go on and on and on about the music you didn't like. You just didn't listen to it.


Exactly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I never heard anyone dissecting and critiquing music like this until TS.

In the 80s,90s, 00s, we just listened to what we liked and judged you if you liked something different.

The internet has made everything weird and bad.


There wasn't a place to go on and on and on about the music you didn't like. You just didn't listen to it.


Exactly.


Of course you did. You HAD to, the radio stations were in sync and sometimes even if you changed the channel, the same song was playing across town. It wasn’t like every car had a tape deck or 8 track, some just had the radio.
Anonymous
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Why is Gabbriette posing like Taylor in the tub? Weird.


That’s horribly embarrassing.
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