Murder at Lululemon in Bethesda

[Anonymous]

According to a Gazette article, the statement of charges written by Detective Drewry, and presented in court on Monday, contained the following information:
"Employees at the Apple store adjacent to Lululemon said they heard two women screaming around 10:30 p.m."

It still bothers me that they didn't call 911.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:wait, someone actually thinks this is a racial hate crime? I can't follow who is quoting whom, but whoever said that is stupid. Stop posting. Stop doing anything. Your words are the opposite of evolution.

Evolution is a lie. Only God controls the creation and advancement of the universe. "The Truth shall set you free". Please read God's handbook on life, the Bible. You will see that mankind "devolves" as time goes on.

[Anonymous]

I am not sure if you are black or white, but whatever you are you might want to let go of the race card and call a spade a spade! This is the crime of Anger and Rage....long pent up anger and rage! If by any stretch of the imagination this had to do with racism it was something strictly made up to reinforce and justify deep seated anger that this person was unwilling to deal. And that may have NEVER entered her mind for all we know and quite frankly I don't believe it would have mattered. So far what we do know is that she is a pathological liar, a thief and a COLD blooded murderer that seems to have NO remorse. And Sociopath might be a good description to add.

[Anonymous]

Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.



Glibness and Superficial Charm


Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.


Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."


Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.


Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.


Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.


Incapacity for Love


Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.


Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.


Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.


Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.


Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.


Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.


Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.


Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

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Other Related Qualities:

Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am not sure if you are black or white, but whatever you are you might want to let go of the race card and call a spade a spade! This is the crime of Anger and Rage....long pent up anger and rage! If by any stretch of the imagination this had to do with racism it was something strictly made up to reinforce and justify deep seated anger that this person was unwilling to deal. And that may have NEVER entered her mind for all we know and quite frankly I don't believe it would have mattered. So far what we do know is that she is a pathological liar, a thief and a COLD blooded murderer that seems to have NO remorse. And Sociopath might be a good description to add.

This could not be "long pent up" anger and rage since she only worked at that store less than two weeks. But it's rage alright. You can decide if it's because she was white and was about to report her as a theif, as was another white person in the previous Lululemon store where she worked (which is why she was tranferred to this store). She could have just moved on to another job. No, this was a hate crime. Tell me what else she had to hate about the victim?

[Anonymous]

Hey Einstein, she might hate white people (GASP! They said that out loud?!?!?!?)

[Anonymous]

She worked there since Christmas time. She had not only worked there for 2 weeks. And she was worried that if word got out that she would not be able to get the other job she was in the process of getting which was at Equinox in Bethesda. Had word gotten out that she was a thief she would have been done in that neighborhood. This has NOTHING to do with Black or White. And how do you know that the manager at the other store was white? I just think that you don't get it and that you may never get it because you have been walking around all of your life living life like it is all about Black against White or White against Black. Until you let go of that unfortunately the only thing that you are going to see is what you continue to see which is that it is a hate crime that was all aout racism. Very NARROW.

[Anonymous]

Um, if word gets out she's a murderer, does she still not get the Equinox job? Do they not like black criminals or any criminals? This is how ridiculous PP sounds.

[Anonymous]

so is this the same person that thinks it was a hate crime??!! Well duh....why do you think she spent the night with a DEAD body that she mutilated??? Do you think she did that because she thought she was going to get caught?? I don't think so! This is a person whose thought processes were NOT rational. This is a person that if they were even on the scale of rational she would have left the scene of the crime and said she left Jayna there after she got her wallet! And so what are you thinking that she jammed the box cutter down her throat and severed her spine after she hit her so many times that she probably didn't have a face left because she was WHITE??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hello! I was just passing through and was hoping to take part in a healthy conversation about the recent events that have affected our community. I see I have instead stumbled into the wrong forum which should appropriately be titled "mothers incapable of having a conversation without sounding like their adolescent children". Carry on, friends! Have a blessed day.

Astute observation for a newcomer. Pathetic, isn't it? Clearly a critical gene flaw unique to the gender. Maybe having babies at advanced maternal age makes one a bit bitter in her old age, no? No wonder why "female bosses" get a bad rap in the workplace, what a nightmare working for one of them.

Is there anyway we can have this poster removed from this discussion? How do we go about making that happen. This is incredibly ridiculous that we have a basher in this Forum.

I am the original poster "passing through", and I happen to be a stay-at-home/part-time working mom. Though I don't entirely agree with the person who replied after me about a critical "gene flaw", (though this entire thread certainly gives reason to believe otherwise) I must say that I have been staying abreast on both threads out of my own curiosity since I live, work, and play in downtown bethesda. I have to say it's quite amusing how women (generally speaking) take such personal offense to others people's thoughts and opinions. This kind of insulting and judging is not something we see on the thread from "mostly men" as I have heard someone say. I guess this is just a healthy reminder why I have more guy friends than girl friends. No thanks to the drama. I think I'll go back to the "All boys UofM thread" where people aren't judged for thinking out loud.

Be polite, be open minded, and share! JUst don't do it here...that is clearly not accepted.

[Anonymous]

What makes you think that the people on this thread are all women?

[Anonymous]

Maybe it wasn't a hate crime but it could have been a result of feelings of I hate white people, they piss me off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She worked there since Christmas time. She had not only worked there for 2 weeks. And she was worried that if word got out that she would not be able to get the other job she was in the process of getting which was at Equinox in Bethesda. Had word gotten out that she was a thief she would have been done in that neighborhood. This has NOTHING to do with Black or White. And how do you know that the manager at the other store was white? I just think that you don't get it and that you may never get it because you have been walking around all of your life living life like it is all about Black against White or White against Black. Until you let go of that unfortunately the only thing that you are going to see is what you continue to see which is that it is a hate crime that was all aout racism. Very NARROW.

Oh, she only worked there since Christmas? Sorry for the misinformation. Well then she had every right to pound her head with a hammer so many times it couldn't be counted by the coroner, and then decapitate her. Of course if she was "worried that if word got out that she would not be able to get the other job she was in the process of getting which was at Equinox in Bethesda." then she had certainly acted as anyone would.

I was so narrow minded I forgot this is acceptable.

Obviously not a hate crime. I appologize. What was I thinking??????????????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What makes you think that the people on this thread are all women?

Not all...just mostly. I am basing that solely on the pronouns and the name of the the website. I'm certain that there are quite a few male posters as well. But most of the constant back and fourth i have seen on this thread from day one are women who somehow turn it into something about them. Just go back and reread the thread.

Not trying to cause more drama, just trying to eliminate it for everyone's sake. But such is the life we live. You can choose to be apart of it, or chose to laugh it off and carry on your merry way. To which I say, good night boys and girls!

[Anonymous]

That could have been in there somewhere but she was quite beyond just I hate white people they piss me off. She was raged beyond the scope of outrage. She displayed actions that are pretty much beyond belief. I would say there was a LOT more going on than I hate white people they piss me off. But that is not to say she didn't have that thought.