Gaza War, Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:The pictures coming out of Gaza are apocalyptic. Will they ever rebuild? What will all those displaced civilians return to?

Houses rebuilt by UN and Euro money. Billions will be poured in.

Yup. The US alone has given Gaza something like $5 billion in the last 20 years. The UN gives almost $1 billion per year.

The estimated total aid between 1994 and 2020 was over $40 billion.

And a good deal of it went to building 300 miles of tunnels underneath Gaza. Not infrastructure. Not electricity. Not water. Not education. Not maternal health. Hamas, the government of Gaza, has its own priorities. And the well-being of the people of Gaza is not one of them.

5 billion in 20 years is a sack of flour PER YEAR, per person.

You’re such a liar. $40 billion in 26 years from all sources.

So 7 point something sacks of flour per person a year?

They also had a GDP of $27 billion in 2021 and a GDP per capita of $5,600. Healthy inflation rate of 1.24%.

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Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

So what end do you want?

FFS, an end to this bloodshed!!

Yes, a two-state solution. A truce, forever. Peaceful coexistence.

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Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

So what end do you want?

FFS, an end to this bloodshed!!

Yes, a two-state solution. A truce, forever. Peaceful coexistence.

Sounds like a great plan. What’s step one? What’s step two?

[Anonymous]

Israeli flag being raised at captured Hamas structure. It is only temporary—Israel wants nothing to do with the place. Who would?

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There is a group that faces an existential
threat all right. It’s not Jews.

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Humanitarian aid will be increasing.

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Anonymous wrote:The pictures coming out of Gaza are apocalyptic. Will they ever rebuild? What will all those displaced civilians return to?

Houses rebuilt by UN and Euro money. Billions will be poured in.

Yup. The US alone has given Gaza something like $5 billion in the last 20 years. The UN gives almost $1 billion per year.

The estimated total aid between 1994 and 2020 was over $40 billion.

And a good deal of it went to building 300 miles of tunnels underneath Gaza. Not infrastructure. Not electricity. Not water. Not education. Not maternal health. Hamas, the government of Gaza, has its own priorities. And the well-being of the people of Gaza is not one of them.

5 billion in 20 years is a sack of flour PER YEAR, per person.

You’re such a liar. $40 billion in 26 years from all sources.

So 7 point something sacks of flour per person a year?

Wtf are you talking about? Gaza GDP is 6Billion, a third comes from Aid and rest comes from remittances. It’s a ghetto of long term refugees where 80% of the population depends on foreign aid.

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Anonymous wrote:The pictures coming out of Gaza are apocalyptic. Will they ever rebuild? What will all those displaced civilians return to?

Houses rebuilt by UN and Euro money. Billions will be poured in.

Yup. The US alone has given Gaza something like $5 billion in the last 20 years. The UN gives almost $1 billion per year.

The estimated total aid between 1994 and 2020 was over $40 billion.

And a good deal of it went to building 300 miles of tunnels underneath Gaza. Not infrastructure. Not electricity. Not water. Not education. Not maternal health. Hamas, the government of Gaza, has its own priorities. And the well-being of the people of Gaza is not one of them.

5 billion in 20 years is a sack of flour PER YEAR, per person.

You’re such a liar. $40 billion in 26 years from all sources.

So 7 point something sacks of flour per person a year?

Wtf are you talking about? Gaza GDP is 6Billion, a third comes from Aid and rest comes from remittances. It’s a ghetto of long term refugees where 80% of the population depends on foreign aid.

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Anonymous wrote:Israeli flag being raised at captured Hamas structure. It is only temporary—Israel wants nothing to do with the place. Who would?

Captured Hamas structure = pile of dead Palestinian children.

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Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

So what end do you want?

FFS, an end to this bloodshed!!

Yes, a two-state solution. A truce, forever. Peaceful coexistence.

Sounds like a great plan. What’s step one? What’s step two?

Step 1. Neuter Hamas
Step 2. Get rid of Bibi
Step 3. Reverse what’s happening in the West Bank. Stop the settlers and work with the PA to build infrastructure for the Palestinians. Reward peace. Show what potential peace could look like. Promise Gaza the same model if they strive for peace.
Step 4. Two state solution

Not saying it’s easy, but it’s a potential path. West Bank needs to be used as a positive model for peace instead of what’s going on now.

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You're right.
Other than modern drip irrigation, water saving innovations, geothermal power, solar powered windows, cherry tomatoes, monitors for sudden infant death syndrome, MobileEye, Waze, silent wind turbines, the 8088 Intel chip which paved the way for modern computers, USB flash drive, harmful microorganism counters for food and beverage industry, using the ocean to produce solar energy, optical heart beat monitoring, increasing plastic recycling efficiency by 50%, portable sleep apnea monitors, the world's smallest camera for medical procedures, water utility leak detection technology, HP digital printing press, remote heart and vitals monitoring for medical staff, contributions to developing a COVID vaccine, R&D that led to the first cell phone, a phone that can detect diseases including cancer, multiple sclerosis, and Parkinson's with 93% accuracy, an exoskeleton that helps paraplegic people walk again, a digestible medical camera in the form of a pill, a flexible heart stent that saved millions of lives of people suffering from coronary heart disease, computer firewalls, antivirus software, ICQ, the iron Dome missile defense system, glasses that read text to visually impaired people, leading breakthrough medical technologies like the ability to 3d print a functioning human heart and nanotechnology that detects and attacks cancer cells, home kits for analysing guy bacteria, desalination tech and a machine that can literally make safe drinking water out of air...

WHAT HAS ISRAEL ACTUALLY DONE FOR YOU.

lol this wasn’t done for anyone in particular. These are commercial technologies. And if it wasn’t designed in Israel, it would have been designed somewhere else. Meh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The pictures coming out of Gaza are apocalyptic. Will they ever rebuild? What will all those displaced civilians return to?

Houses rebuilt by UN and Euro money. Billions will be poured in.

Yup. The US alone has given Gaza something like $5 billion in the last 20 years. The UN gives almost $1 billion per year.

The estimated total aid between 1994 and 2020 was over $40 billion.

And a good deal of it went to building 300 miles of tunnels underneath Gaza. Not infrastructure. Not electricity. Not water. Not education. Not maternal health. Hamas, the government of Gaza, has its own priorities. And the well-being of the people of Gaza is not one of them.

5 billion in 20 years is a sack of flour PER YEAR, per person.

You’re such a liar. $40 billion in 26 years from all sources.

Now do US aid to Israel...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But I think people are slowly becoming more aware of what they’re accidentally signing up for, now that Hamas has escalated this situation. Young people are having second thoughts. I think Hamas seriously miscalculated on 10/7. Burned a lot of sympathy.

I think it’s very much the opposite. I think the goodwill many had unquestioningly for Israel is forever gone.

Definitely forever gone. Even within my own circles- everyone has gone all in for Palestinian liberation and and are calling for an immediate ceasefire. All one needs to do is look at the protests around the world- and even the protests within this country over the past few weeks have been massive. Protesters took over Grand Central Station tonight. I’m sorry boomers, but the narrative has been changing for a while and it’s changing rapidly.

So what end do you want?

FFS, an end to this bloodshed!!

Yes, a two-state solution. A truce, forever. Peaceful coexistence.

Sounds like a great plan. What’s step one? What’s step two?

Step 1. Neuter Hamas
Step 2. Get rid of Bibi
Step 3. Reverse what’s happening in the West Bank. Stop the settlers and work with the PA to build infrastructure for the Palestinians. Reward peace. Show what potential peace could look like. Promise Gaza the same model if they strive for peace.
Step 4. Two state solution

Not saying it’s easy, but it’s a potential path. West Bank needs to be used as a positive model for peace instead of what’s going on now.

Sounds like what Israel is doing.

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Israel didn't invent cherry tomatoes.

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Anonymous wrote:The US is preventing people from leaving? Jesus you people are deranged.

This US administration has made no arrangements or demands for safe passage of its citizens. Not even a mildly worded statement. They go to the Rafah crossing in desperation and can't be let out. There are dozens posting on Twitter and Instagram. Some have already died. They are nothing but little chess pieces to deliver a cruel message.

That is just false you Hamas parrot.

The truth is there for everyone to see you despicable shill.

The truth? Truth is you want them to die in your deranged jihad.

I want them to come home, but they can't, because making an example of them is a useful terror and dehumanization tactic.

And who is using them? Hamas.

The US is demanding safe passage south, Hamas is preventing it.

What? There have been multiple reports of crowds gathering at the Rafah crossing after getting notified that it's about to open. They came and it never opened. Enough with the bs that Hamas is preventing it. The crossing is closed. It's not Hamas that's keeping it closed.

I don't understand why the US just doesn't extract its citizens. They don't need a crossing. Gaza has a sea coast. Why can't they get a boat to dock there and get them out to a bigger ship?

You misunderstand. Israel had told Palestinians to go south of the Gaza River. Their operations are concentrated in the northern half of Gaza. The southern part would be safer, but it's not a perfect safe zone since Hamas operates there as well. The Rafah border crossing itself is controlled by Egypt. And Egypt will never open that border. They've seen what Palestinians did to Jordan and Lebanon. No one in Egypt wants two million radicalized and impoverished Palestinians in their country. That border will always be closed to Palestinians.

There isn't an easy way to get people out of Gaza. Do you think Hamas is going to graciously allows US Navy vessels to approach the beach to evacuate a selected few? Not happening. I don't think people here truly understand what Hamas is about. October 7th should have been a clue. But there aren't any easy answers to anything.