Official Government Shutdown 2023 Thread

[Anonymous]

Genuine question on house procedure.

Can McCarthy bring a vote on a clean cr and see it through before there is a motion to remove him as speaker? Or could the freedom caucus cut the head off the house, so to speak, and throw things in disarray, and cr doesn't pass until a new speaker is elected

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:was someone upthread asking about being paid during a shutdown? if you're furloughed you will get a paycheck on 10/13 for 5 days plus 4hrs (4hrs allotted to shut down), so you'll get a little something in the first two weeks of the Fy. I guess better than nothing.

yes, I reckon most would consider half a paycheck better than nothing

[Anonymous]

Shutdown odds grow as House GOP leaders reject Senate’s spending bill

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/09/27/government-shutdown-house-rejects-senate-spending-bill/


Looks like shut down

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, the House votes on the CR on Friday. Gut check time for those folks out there who are rooting against a shut down and the few who are privately rooting for one.

See you trolls are pretty obvious. What Fed is going to blow $$$ on golf fees when next paycheck is uncertain.

You really should thing.

Most people where I live are GS14/15 and they are married to nonfed people who are rolling in $$$ in the private sector.  Those folks want the government to shut down for a few weeks. They are not hurting for $$$

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question on house procedure.

Can McCarthy bring a vote on a clean cr and see it through before there is a motion to remove him as speaker? Or could the freedom caucus cut the head off the house, so to speak, and throw things in disarray, and cr doesn't pass until a new speaker is elected

Hmm, not sure but curious to know! I think it’s less about McCarthy being removed that quickly and more him being removed at all. But what do I know?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, the House votes on the CR on Friday. Gut check time for those folks out there who are rooting against a shut down and the few who are privately rooting for one.

See you trolls are pretty obvious. What Fed is going to blow $$$ on golf fees when next paycheck is uncertain.

You really should thing.

Most people where I live are GS14/15 and they are married to nonfed people who are rolling in $$$ in the private sector.  Those folks want the government to shut down for a few weeks. They are not hurting for $$$

Your “most people” are not the vast majority of Feds.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know if people who are funded by working capital will still get paid? Our leadership doesn’t seem to think so. Or maybe doesn’t know. It’s causing a lot of stress.

[Anonymous]

We have a town hall tomorrow so I’m guessing this is happening (or maybe agency thinks it’s happening).

[Anonymous]

This definitely feels like a shutdown, again. Question will be for how long?
Both DH and I are employed by the government and while not living paycheck to paycheck, this shutdown will still hurt.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the latest House briefing this am, I’m guessing there will be a shutdown.

prediction event contract at 77% now.

White House is drawing up essential lists. Opm directed to issue guidance.

Does anyone know how often we’ve gotten to this point before and they have worked it out? I can’t remember. I know there’s often shutdown talk and short-term CRs - but what about OPM guidance, etc?

Previous shutdowns don't really relate. There haven't been Congressmen as extreme, rigid and die-hard as the current Freedom Caucus. The whole point is that the federal government is currently being held hostage by a small group of less than 20 extreme Congressmen who are refusing to negotiate in good Faith and a weak speaker who is not willing to use the tools available to him to bypass this small group for fear that he will lose his job.

The Freedom Caucus is a lost cause and they really aren't worth spending the time trying to negotiate with them as they are not willing to negotiate. They are essentially a nuclear option unto themselves. What needs to happen is that McCarthy needs to grow a pair and start to negotiate with the moderate Republicans and the Democrats to see where he can find a middle ground that everyone will both agree to and will also support him retaining the speakership as the lesser of many evils available to them. Once he can find that fine line agreement, then he will have his resolution. But he will have to make a lot of concessions to the Democrats and the moderate Republicans to be able to discount and ignore the unreasonable radical fringe.

Dems need a LOT of concessions to vote for a Republican speaker.

This sounds like a job for a poverty-halving child tax credit

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:was someone upthread asking about being paid during a shutdown? if you're furloughed you will get a paycheck on 10/13 for 5 days plus 4hrs (4hrs allotted to shut down), so you'll get a little something in the first two weeks of the Fy. I guess better than nothing.

Not the fours hours. That money hasn’t been allocated. You’ll get it when we reopen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, the House votes on the CR on Friday. Gut check time for those folks out there who are rooting against a shut down and the few who are privately rooting for one.

See you trolls are pretty obvious. What Fed is going to blow $$$ on golf fees when next paycheck is uncertain.

You really should thing.

Most people where I live are GS14/15 and they are married to nonfed people who are rolling in $$$ in the private sector.  Those folks want the government to shut down for a few weeks. They are not hurting for $$$

You live in an affluent bubble. What you describe is less than the top 1% of the area, approximately the top 0.25%, of the DC metropolitan area.

You need to get out of your bubble and see what the other 99.75% of the region feels like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have a town hall tomorrow so I’m guessing this is happening (or maybe agency thinks it’s happening).

We are also having a town hall tomorrow to answer questions about what will happen if there is a shut down. I don't think they have any concrete info that it will definitely happen, but they are addressing it in case.

[Anonymous]

I honestly don't see any way this is resolved by Saturday.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know if people who are funded by working capital will still get paid? Our leadership doesn’t seem to think so. Or maybe doesn’t know. It’s causing a lot of stress.

It depends on how your working capital fund is funded. If it's funded by accounts that are strictly appropriated, then you will probably be furloughed, at least eventually. Some agencies allow for working capital fund employees to continue working until leftover funds run out. If your wcf is funded by funds that are fee based than they will likely be able to keep working. Our agency determined that wcf employees could keep working until funds ran out. But our two largest funds that feed the wcf are fee generated, rather than annual appropriations based.