Official Government Shutdown 2023 Thread

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, the House votes on the CR on Friday. Gut check time for those folks out there who are rooting against a shut down and the few who are privately rooting for one.

See you trolls are pretty obvious. What Fed is going to blow $$$ on golf fees when next paycheck is uncertain.

You really should thing.

Most people where I live are GS14/15 and they are married to nonfed people who are rolling in $$$ in the private sector.  Those folks want the government to shut down for a few weeks. They are not hurting for $$$

Your “most people” are not the vast majority of Feds.

We're a double-Fed family and know many others in the same boat. Thankfully should have sufficient savings to get us through, but know this isn't the case for many.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, the House votes on the CR on Friday. Gut check time for those folks out there who are rooting against a shut down and the few who are privately rooting for one.

See you trolls are pretty obvious. What Fed is going to blow $$$ on golf fees when next paycheck is uncertain.

You really should thing.

Most people where I live are GS14/15 and they are married to nonfed people who are rolling in $$$ in the private sector.  Those folks want the government to shut down for a few weeks. They are not hurting for $$$

Your “most people” are not the vast majority of Feds.

We're a double-Fed family and know many others in the same boat. Thankfully should have sufficient savings to get us through, but know this isn't the case for many.

I am annoyed at anyone who is secretly hoping for a shut down. My team are all contractors. They will not get paid. They have families and they don't need this BS game-playing nonsense.

Actually annoyed doesn't quite convey how I'm feeling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question on house procedure.

Can McCarthy bring a vote on a clean cr and see it through before there is a motion to remove him as speaker? Or could the freedom caucus cut the head off the house, so to speak, and throw things in disarray, and cr doesn't pass until a new speaker is elected

Bump. I asked this question earlier on this thread and on the political one and no one responded. Does anyone know how a motion to remove works procedurally?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, the House votes on the CR on Friday. Gut check time for those folks out there who are rooting against a shut down and the few who are privately rooting for one.

See you trolls are pretty obvious. What Fed is going to blow $$$ on golf fees when next paycheck is uncertain.

You really should thing.

Most people where I live are GS14/15 and they are married to nonfed people who are rolling in $$$ in the private sector.  Those folks want the government to shut down for a few weeks. They are not hurting for $$$

Your “most people” are not the vast majority of Feds.

We're a double-Fed family and know many others in the same boat. Thankfully should have sufficient savings to get us through, but know this isn't the case for many.

I am annoyed at anyone who is secretly hoping for a shut down. My team are all contractors. They will not get paid. They have families and they don't need this BS game-playing nonsense.

Actually annoyed doesn't quite convey how I'm feeling.

Same. I had a friend ask me over the weekend what I’m planning to do while on vacation and i was so annoyed by the question. This isn’t fun and games. People need their paychecks in real time and the uncertainty of the timeline if we do shut down is unsettling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Genuine question on house procedure.

Can McCarthy bring a vote on a clean cr and see it through before there is a motion to remove him as speaker? Or could the freedom caucus cut the head off the house, so to speak, and throw things in disarray, and cr doesn't pass until a new speaker is elected

Bump. I asked this question earlier on this thread and on the political one and no one responded. Does anyone know how a motion to remove works procedurally?

He said he won’t.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4225849-mccarthy-told-conference-he-wont-allow-vote-on-senate-stopgap-gop-lawmakers/

[Anonymous]

Watching C-SPAN right now. Rs are have introduced and are arguing for ridiculous bills that still have funding to build the border wall. Ds are using their time to say stop with this silliness and let’s figure out how to keep the government open. None of this is going anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watching C-SPAN right now. Rs are have introduced and are arguing for ridiculous bills that still have funding to build the border wall. Ds are using their time to say stop with this silliness and let’s figure out how to keep the government open. None of this is going anywhere.

And most of us feds don't want an unscheduled "vacation" that's probably going to set us back work wise and ruin some of our actual vacations. The work still has to be done.

Not to mention the financial hardship for contractors and feds without extensive savings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, the House votes on the CR on Friday. Gut check time for those folks out there who are rooting against a shut down and the few who are privately rooting for one.

See you trolls are pretty obvious. What Fed is going to blow $$$ on golf fees when next paycheck is uncertain.

You really should thing.

Most people where I live are GS14/15 and they are married to nonfed people who are rolling in $$$ in the private sector.  Those folks want the government to shut down for a few weeks. They are not hurting for $$$

Your “most people” are not the vast majority of Feds.

We're a double-Fed family and know many others in the same boat. Thankfully should have sufficient savings to get us through, but know this isn't the case for many.

I am annoyed at anyone who is secretly hoping for a shut down. My team are all contractors. They will not get paid. They have families and they don't need this BS game-playing nonsense.

Actually annoyed doesn't quite convey how I'm feeling.

Same. I had a friend ask me over the weekend what I’m planning to do while on vacation and i was so annoyed by the question. This isn’t fun and games. People need their paychecks in real time and the uncertainty of the timeline if we do shut down is unsettling.

Right.

[Anonymous]

Anyone else get really depressed and take shutdowns personally? We are sort of okay financially assuming this doesn't go on forever, but I work in a job to which I have given my heart and soul for much less money than I made in private practice, and shutdowns make me feel profoundly unappreciated. I'm a true believer in government service (which is stupid) and this genuinely sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watching C-SPAN right now. Rs are have introduced and are arguing for ridiculous bills that still have funding to build the border wall. Ds are using their time to say stop with this silliness and let’s figure out how to keep the government open. None of this is going anywhere.

One way to figure out how to keep the govt open is to do something to manage the flow of illegal arrivals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Watching C-SPAN right now. Rs are have introduced and are arguing for ridiculous bills that still have funding to build the border wall. Ds are using their time to say stop with this silliness and let’s figure out how to keep the government open. None of this is going anywhere.

One way to figure out how to keep the govt open is to do something to manage the flow of illegal arrivals.

Yawn

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Based on the latest House briefing this am, I’m guessing there will be a shutdown.

prediction event contract at 77% now.

White House is drawing up essential lists. Opm directed to issue guidance.

Does anyone know how often we’ve gotten to this point before and they have worked it out? I can’t remember. I know there’s often shutdown talk and short-term CRs - but what about OPM guidance, etc?

Previous shutdowns don't really relate. There haven't been Congressmen as extreme, rigid and die-hard as the current Freedom Caucus. The whole point is that the federal government is currently being held hostage by a small group of less than 20 extreme Congressmen who are refusing to negotiate in good Faith and a weak speaker who is not willing to use the tools available to him to bypass this small group for fear that he will lose his job.

The Freedom Caucus is a lost cause and they really aren't worth spending the time trying to negotiate with them as they are not willing to negotiate. They are essentially a nuclear option unto themselves. What needs to happen is that McCarthy needs to grow a pair and start to negotiate with the moderate Republicans and the Democrats to see where he can find a middle ground that everyone will both agree to and will also support him retaining the speakership as the lesser of many evils available to them. Once he can find that fine line agreement, then he will have his resolution. But he will have to make a lot of concessions to the Democrats and the moderate Republicans to be able to discount and ignore the unreasonable radical fringe.

Dems need a LOT of concessions to vote for a Republican speaker.

But if they really care to keep it open...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watching C-SPAN right now. Rs are have introduced and are arguing for ridiculous bills that still have funding to build the border wall. Ds are using their time to say stop with this silliness and let’s figure out how to keep the government open. None of this is going anywhere.

One way to figure out how to keep the govt open is to do something to manage the flow of illegal arrivals.

What are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else get really depressed and take shutdowns personally? We are sort of okay financially assuming this doesn't go on forever, but I work in a job to which I have given my heart and soul for much less money than I made in private practice, and shutdowns make me feel profoundly unappreciated. I'm a true believer in government service (which is stupid) and this genuinely sucks.

I felt this way last time. Congress playing games this way is so disrespectful. I know they'd get their act together if they also stop getting paid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else get really depressed and take shutdowns personally? We are sort of okay financially assuming this doesn't go on forever, but I work in a job to which I have given my heart and soul for much less money than I made in private practice, and shutdowns make me feel profoundly unappreciated. I'm a true believer in government service (which is stupid) and this genuinely sucks.

my husband is the fed in our family. i’m a teacher. during the last shutdown, i had a number of parents reach out to volunteer in the classroom. they said it made them feel better to serve in a way that they’re not normally able to. just an idea.