Discrimination against Asians

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is profoundly racist to suggest that tests and a process that largely exclude all but Asian kids from a magnet school are somehow neutral or race-blind.

If this is the hill that area Asians and their stooges like Dick Saslaw want to die on, prepare for a long battle.

How are non-Asian kids excluded in the admissions process?
Are applicants held to different standards according to race?

PP’s unable to respond to this, because of course they aren’t held to different standards now. What PP can’t admit to is that they wish our Asian kids were held to a different standard, because then they would have to admit to racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is profoundly racist to suggest that tests and a process that largely exclude all but Asian kids from a magnet school are somehow neutral or race-blind.

If this is the hill that area Asians and their stooges like Dick Saslaw want to die on, prepare for a long battle.

How are non-Asian kids excluded in the admissions process?
Are applicants held to different standards according to race?

PP’s unable to respond to this, because of course they aren’t held to different standards now. What PP can’t admit to is that they wish our Asian kids were held to a different standard, because then they would have to admit to racism.

I wonder if the test prep cheaters like Currie who’ve been discredited could just rebrand as “Our Asian Kids.” It sounds so innocent but would attract the same crowd looking for any edge, ethical or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is profoundly racist to suggest that tests and a process that largely exclude all but Asian kids from a magnet school are somehow neutral or race-blind.

If this is the hill that area Asians and their stooges like Dick Saslaw want to die on, prepare for a long battle.

How are non-Asian kids excluded in the admissions process?
Are applicants held to different standards according to race?

PP’s unable to respond to this, because of course they aren’t held to different standards now. What PP can’t admit to is that they wish our Asian kids were held to a different standard, because then they would have to admit to racism.

I wonder if the test prep cheaters like Currie who’ve been discredited could just rebrand as “Our Asian Kids.” It sounds so innocent but would attract the same crowd looking for any edge, ethical or not.

Deflecting because you're unable to respond, of course. Tell me this, when you (or your kids) prepared for the SAT or any other examination you took in your life, did you embrace the label of cheater or do you still maintain you're as pure as the driven snow? Do tell - Princeton Review, Barrons, Kate Dalby et al would like to know that you think of them as cheating centers. Your schools are preparing your kids for the AAP with CoGat questions - that's cheating too right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is profoundly racist to suggest that tests and a process that largely exclude all but Asian kids from a magnet school are somehow neutral or race-blind.

If this is the hill that area Asians and their stooges like Dick Saslaw want to die on, prepare for a long battle.

How are non-Asian kids excluded in the admissions process?
Are applicants held to different standards according to race?

PP’s unable to respond to this, because of course they aren’t held to different standards now. What PP can’t admit to is that they wish our Asian kids were held to a different standard, because then they would have to admit to racism.

I wonder if the test prep cheaters like Currie who’ve been discredited could just rebrand as “Our Asian Kids.” It sounds so innocent but would attract the same crowd looking for any edge, ethical or not.

Deflecting because you're unable to respond, of course. Tell me this, when you (or your kids) prepared for the SAT or any other examination you took in your life, did you embrace the label of cheater or do you still maintain you're as pure as the driven snow? Do tell - Princeton Review, Barrons, Kate Dalby et al would like to know that you think of them as cheating centers. Your schools are preparing your kids for the AAP with CoGat questions - that's cheating too right?

Learn your own history. Did you know that the only reason SAT releases its previous years question papers is because venerable institutions like Kaplan, Barrons, Princeton Review did exactly what you're accusing prep centers of doing? Are you aware that Dalby has, every year, been getting the TJ Math essay question from students who've taken the exam and prepping new students on how to do it, even releasing excellent YouTube videos of the same? No outcries there of course, these are not easy asian targets and you would be laughed away if you tried. To prepare for an exam is to take it seriously, to wing an exam is to depend on pure dumb luck - like expecting to hit a home run without ever having seen the inside of a batter's cage.

[Anonymous]

Alright people, I've discovered why 'good-optics' solutions for TJ admissions were preferred over steps that would ensure actual change.

Based on posts in an Asra-bashing thread, I became curious about Sean Perryman. It turns out that he's launching a democratic bid for LG. So, as it turns out, this massive rush to politicize TJ admissions had nothing to do with equity and everything to do with Sean Perryman's political ambitions. That explains both the rush for options with good optics, and the refusal to consider suggestions from educational stalwarts like Vern Williams, or even proposals that would engender lasting change.

https://richmond.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/fairfax-naacp-leader-sean-perryman-announces-democratic-bid-for-lg/article_645ddf89-17c3-57c1-9151-86be698fda20.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Alright people, I've discovered why 'good-optics' solutions for TJ admissions were preferred over steps that would ensure actual change.

Based on posts in an Asra-bashing thread, I became curious about Sean Perryman. It turns out that he's launching a democratic bid for LG. So, as it turns out, this massive rush to politicize TJ admissions had nothing to do with equity and everything to do with Sean Perryman's political ambitions. That explains both the rush for options with good optics, and the refusal to consider suggestions from educational stalwarts like Vern Williams, or even proposals that would engender lasting change.

https://richmond.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/fairfax-naacp-leader-sean-perryman-announces-democratic-bid-for-lg/article_645ddf89-17c3-57c1-9151-86be698fda20.html

Perhaps people like Sean run for political office because they see it as a way to advance equity, just as others like Asra write articles and hold mock "vigils" to protect their privilege and others who benefit financially from the TJ test prep industry staunchly defend the status quo.

[Anonymous]

No one is not advancing equity by pushing for a lottery to replace a race-blind test. IF at all Sean is advocating for a lottery, then he is advocating for unfairness, racial discrimination against colored people, and against the concept of working hard to achieve your goals. Injustice and hounding someone for their accomplishments is a slippery slope. Should we do lotteries for everything else in life - food, jobs, college, sports, marriage - why just for TJ admissions? Advancing equity is hard and lazy solutions like a lottery devalue the effort and honesty it will take to achieve equity.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alright people, I've discovered why 'good-optics' solutions for TJ admissions were preferred over steps that would ensure actual change.

Based on posts in an Asra-bashing thread, I became curious about Sean Perryman. It turns out that he's launching a democratic bid for LG. So, as it turns out, this massive rush to politicize TJ admissions had nothing to do with equity and everything to do with Sean Perryman's political ambitions. That explains both the rush for options with good optics, and the refusal to consider suggestions from educational stalwarts like Vern Williams, or even proposals that would engender lasting change.

https://richmond.com/news/state-and-regional/govt-and-politics/fairfax-naacp-leader-sean-perryman-announces-democratic-bid-for-lg/article_645ddf89-17c3-57c1-9151-86be698fda20.html

Perhaps people like Sean run for political office because they see it as a way to advance equity, just as others like Asra write articles and hold mock "vigils" to protect their privilege and others who benefit financially from the TJ test prep industry staunchly defend the status quo.

[Anonymous]

No one is not advancing equity by pushing for a lottery to replace a race-blind test. IF at all Sean is advocating for a lottery, then he is advocating for unfairness, racial discrimination against colored people, and against the concept of working hard to achieve your goals. Injustice and hounding someone for their accomplishments is a slippery slope. Should we do lotteries for everything else in life - food, jobs, college, sports, marriage - why just for TJ admissions? Advancing equity is hard and lazy solutions like a lottery devalue the effort and honesty it will take to achieve equity.

What?

[Anonymous]

Our mission is to secure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights in order to eliminate race-based discrimination and ensure the health and well-being of all persons.

Anonymous wrote:

No one is not advancing equity by pushing for a lottery to replace a race-blind test. IF at all Sean is advocating for a lottery, then he is advocating for unfairness, racial discrimination against colored people, and against the concept of working hard to achieve your goals. Injustice and hounding someone for their accomplishments is a slippery slope. Should we do lotteries for everything else in life - food, jobs, college, sports, marriage - why just for TJ admissions? Advancing equity is hard and lazy solutions like a lottery devalue the effort and honesty it will take to achieve equity.

What?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our mission is to secure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights in order to eliminate race-based discrimination and ensure the health and well-being of all persons.

Anonymous wrote:

No one is not advancing equity by pushing for a lottery to replace a race-blind test. IF at all Sean is advocating for a lottery, then he is advocating for unfairness, racial discrimination against colored people, and against the concept of working hard to achieve your goals. Injustice and hounding someone for their accomplishments is a slippery slope. Should we do lotteries for everything else in life - food, jobs, college, sports, marriage - why just for TJ admissions? Advancing equity is hard and lazy solutions like a lottery devalue the effort and honesty it will take to achieve equity.

What?

The “What?” is about the bolded words in the quoted paragraph. “Colored people”? Really?

[Anonymous]

I am a brown Asian with brown kids who worked hard and passed a racially blind test to get into magnet schools and are working hard to do well in those schools. I am thankful that I did not have to reveal my children's race in the selection process - else they may not have got in. The clearly stated objective of the lottery is to reduce the percentage of Asians in TJ.

Not in line with the mission below.

Our mission is to secure the political, [b]educational,[/b] social, and economic equality of rights in order to eliminate[b] race-based discrimination[/b] and ensure the health and well-being of all persons.

Are there better solutions than the lottery to help other minorities? Yes. So let's pursue that?

That's what...

Anonymous wrote:

No one is not advancing equity by pushing for a lottery to replace a race-blind test. IF at all Sean is advocating for a lottery, then he is advocating for unfairness, racial discrimination against colored people, and against the concept of working hard to achieve your goals. Injustice and hounding someone for their accomplishments is a slippery slope. Should we do lotteries for everything else in life - food, jobs, college, sports, marriage - why just for TJ admissions? Advancing equity is hard and lazy solutions like a lottery devalue the effort and honesty it will take to achieve equity.

What?

[Anonymous]

Yes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our mission is to secure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights in order to eliminate race-based discrimination and ensure the health and well-being of all persons.

Anonymous wrote:

No one is not advancing equity by pushing for a lottery to replace a race-blind test. IF at all Sean is advocating for a lottery, then he is advocating for unfairness, racial discrimination against colored people, and against the concept of working hard to achieve your goals. Injustice and hounding someone for their accomplishments is a slippery slope. Should we do lotteries for everything else in life - food, jobs, college, sports, marriage - why just for TJ admissions? Advancing equity is hard and lazy solutions like a lottery devalue the effort and honesty it will take to achieve equity.

What?

The “What?” is about the bolded words in the quoted paragraph. “Colored people”? Really?

[Anonymous]

And please read the whole thing... one-word questions about just one word is so plain sad.

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our mission is to secure the political, educational, social, and economic equality of rights in order to eliminate race-based discrimination and ensure the health and well-being of all persons.

Anonymous wrote:

No one is not advancing equity by pushing for a lottery to replace a race-blind test. IF at all Sean is advocating for a lottery, then he is advocating for unfairness, racial discrimination against colored people, and against the concept of working hard to achieve your goals. Injustice and hounding someone for their accomplishments is a slippery slope. Should we do lotteries for everything else in life - food, jobs, college, sports, marriage - why just for TJ admissions? Advancing equity is hard and lazy solutions like a lottery devalue the effort and honesty it will take to achieve equity.

What?

The “What?” is about the bolded words in the quoted paragraph. “Colored people”? Really?

[Anonymous]

Many local Asians who’ve pushed their kids into TJ like the stacked deck and the idea of a more level playing field just infuriates them. Guess it won’t sound quite so much like they “made it” if they have to write their relatives abroad that their kid is at Langley HS or Oakton HS. Oh well.

[Anonymous]

yeah...make assumptions and attack people. oh well.

Anonymous wrote:Many local Asians who’ve pushed their kids into TJ like the stacked deck and the idea of a more level playing field just infuriates them. Guess it won’t sound quite so much like they “made it” if they have to write their relatives abroad that their kid is at Langley HS or Oakton HS. Oh well.