Help me understand Republican women in their 30s and 40s

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty simple, I probably disagree with you on every major policy issue from immigration to crime to the Supreme Court. It’s not that complicated.

Crime has gone down under Biden so you have to get facts straight

Just because you decide to stop recording crime and enforcing against it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

This narrative that crime has gone down under Biden doesn’t match what people are experiencing, and it’s because in many jurisdictions, many property crimes aren’t even tracked. People don’t bother going to the police for property crime in my neighborhood because the cops won’t do anything. But everyone is experiencing a lot more crime.

The “crime has gone done under Biden” sounds like an outright lie to a lot of people.

Are you on those neighborhood listserve things? My parent can no longer manage email and I’ve been helping. Every day, multiple times a day, there are multiple emails from the neighborhood listserve talking about suspicious people, break ins and other dangers. It can’t possibly be true. But if you rely on this I can see why the world seems frightening.

No, I don’t belong to any of them. I am speaking about neighbors I know personally and myself. We have all experienced more crime in the last four years than at any prior time in our lives. Neighbors have had cars stolen, breakins, etc.

I have been physically assaulted twice in my neighborhood in the past four year, both times strung-out druggies who grabbed at me. I was able to push them off but it was scary. I didn’t report either (why bother?). That’s never happened before in my neighborhood.

The fact is that the narrative that crime is down under Biden doesn’t match reality, and that is a huge weakness for Biden. People know the Democrats are badly lying on this point.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty simple, I probably disagree with you on every major policy issue from immigration to crime to the Supreme Court. It’s not that complicated.

Crime has gone down under Biden so you have to get facts straight

Just because you decide to stop recording crime and enforcing against it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

This narrative that crime has gone down under Biden doesn’t match what people are experiencing, and it’s because in many jurisdictions, many property crimes aren’t even tracked. People don’t bother going to the police for property crime in my neighborhood because the cops won’t do anything. But everyone is experiencing a lot more crime.

The “crime has gone done under Biden” sounds like an outright lie to a lot of people.

My coworker’s husband is with DC police. He told me that crimes are being under-reported and, when reported, characterized in the most benign way possible. An obvious murder scene, for example, gets initially described / reported to the media as a shooting (or it may have been even more opaque).

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty simple, I probably disagree with you on every major policy issue from immigration to crime to the Supreme Court. It’s not that complicated.

Crime has gone down under Biden so you have to get facts straight

Just because you decide to stop recording crime and enforcing against it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

This narrative that crime has gone down under Biden doesn’t match what people are experiencing, and it’s because in many jurisdictions, many property crimes aren’t even tracked. People don’t bother going to the police for property crime in my neighborhood because the cops won’t do anything. But everyone is experiencing a lot more crime.

The “crime has gone done under Biden” sounds like an outright lie to a lot of people.

Are you on those neighborhood listserve things? My parent can no longer manage email and I’ve been helping. Every day, multiple times a day, there are multiple emails from the neighborhood listserve talking about suspicious people, break ins and other dangers. It can’t possibly be true. But if you rely on this I can see why the world seems frightening.

No, I don’t belong to any of them. I am speaking about neighbors I know personally and myself. We have all experienced more crime in the last four years than at any prior time in our lives. Neighbors have had cars stolen, breakins, etc.

I have been physically assaulted twice in my neighborhood in the past four year, both times strung-out druggies who grabbed at me. I was able to push them off but it was scary. I didn’t report either (why bother?). That’s never happened before in my neighborhood.

The fact is that the narrative that crime is down under Biden doesn’t match reality, and that is a huge weakness for Biden. People know the Democrats are badly lying on this point.

What neighborhood is this in?

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty simple, I probably disagree with you on every major policy issue from immigration to crime to the Supreme Court. It’s not that complicated.

Crime has gone down under Biden so you have to get facts straight

Just because you decide to stop recording crime and enforcing against it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

This narrative that crime has gone down under Biden doesn’t match what people are experiencing, and it’s because in many jurisdictions, many property crimes aren’t even tracked. People don’t bother going to the police for property crime in my neighborhood because the cops won’t do anything. But everyone is experiencing a lot more crime.

The “crime has gone done under Biden” sounds like an outright lie to a lot of people.

Are you on those neighborhood listserve things? My parent can no longer manage email and I’ve been helping. Every day, multiple times a day, there are multiple emails from the neighborhood listserve talking about suspicious people, break ins and other dangers. It can’t possibly be true. But if you rely on this I can see why the world seems frightening.

No, I don’t belong to any of them. I am speaking about neighbors I know personally and myself. We have all experienced more crime in the last four years than at any prior time in our lives. Neighbors have had cars stolen, breakins, etc.

I have been physically assaulted twice in my neighborhood in the past four year, both times strung-out druggies who grabbed at me. I was able to push them off but it was scary. I didn’t report either (why bother?). That’s never happened before in my neighborhood.

The fact is that the narrative that crime is down under Biden doesn’t match reality, and that is a huge weakness for Biden. People know the Democrats are badly lying on this point.

What neighborhood is this in?

I am in a nice neighborhood in California.

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Anonymous wrote:Pretty simple, I probably disagree with you on every major policy issue from immigration to crime to the Supreme Court. It’s not that complicated.

Crime has gone down under Biden so you have to get facts straight

Just because you decide to stop recording crime and enforcing against it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

This narrative that crime has gone down under Biden doesn’t match what people are experiencing, and it’s because in many jurisdictions, many property crimes aren’t even tracked. People don’t bother going to the police for property crime in my neighborhood because the cops won’t do anything. But everyone is experiencing a lot more crime.

The “crime has gone done under Biden” sounds like an outright lie to a lot of people.

Are you on those neighborhood listserve things? My parent can no longer manage email and I’ve been helping. Every day, multiple times a day, there are multiple emails from the neighborhood listserve talking about suspicious people, break ins and other dangers. It can’t possibly be true. But if you rely on this I can see why the world seems frightening.

No, I don’t belong to any of them. I am speaking about neighbors I know personally and myself. We have all experienced more crime in the last four years than at any prior time in our lives. Neighbors have had cars stolen, breakins, etc.

I have been physically assaulted twice in my neighborhood in the past four year, both times strung-out druggies who grabbed at me. I was able to push them off but it was scary. I didn’t report either (why bother?). That’s never happened before in my neighborhood.

The fact is that the narrative that crime is down under Biden doesn’t match reality, and that is a huge weakness for Biden. People know the Democrats are badly lying on this point.

100%

On crime, inflation, all this tr@nny madness, and so much more, Democrats are putting on a master class in gaslighting and disinformation. As a former Democrat who was outraged by Trump’s lies, I’m ashamed of how many of us happily support, lies as long as it’s our side telling them. There are no guiding principles on either side beyond win at all costs. Our country is screwed.

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Anonymous wrote:In general, single women are overwhelmingly democrats and married women are 50/50ish. It's odd that none of this discussion has centered on why married women may have voting preferences that align with male voting patterns, except the bizarre and misogynistic conclusion that women are brainless and will do as their husbands instruct.

Married women tend to have more in common with men because marriage causes them to be a unit and their interests are united. A married woman has no interest in males being discriminated against, etc.

It is interesting. I think it's because many married women have children, and so they're more plugged into community issues - public safety, schools, cost of groceries etc. And Democrats tend to be on the wrong side of everyday quality of life issues - particularly schools and crime.

This.

When I was single, I didn’t care nearly enough about schools, inflation, cost of living, immigration, or any other political issue for them to affect my voting. I didn’t even understand what school choice was, beyond knowing it was bad primarily because that’s what everyone in my Crown Heights circle thought and I didn’t care enough to look too hard into it. Naturally, I voted D.

Then I had an autistic child in a terrible school district with classrooms overcrowded due to a mass influx of undocumented immigrants, where every kid with any disability that needed accommodation was herded into one classroom and basically babysat. Popular wisdom in my area was that “privileged” parents like me should make do with public schools cuz like privates are bad and leaving meant I was racist. While I was trying to figure out what to do, the pandemic hit, and schools shut down, leaving me to educate a multiply disabled child basically by myself (good luck virtually educating kids like mine) and Dems kept schools closed long after the harms were documented. I got outta NY so fast to a southern state were life was still allowed to go on and where I had my pick of schools regardless of where I lived. Suddenly, school choice made sense. Educational policy and immigration became very real issues to me, and I could have slapped all my former Brooklynite friends who thought keeping schools closed indefinitely was totally fine.

Inflation hit us very hard because we needed every dollar for my son’s therapies and then later for serious health problems I developed. All the monied Democrats I knew telling me that inflation is a non-issue made me want to kill someone.

Life comes at you fast when you have children, a mortgage, and a whole life beyond pie in the sky foolishness to consider. I’m done with Democrats. Never ever thought I’d say that 10 years ago as a single woman.

Your story will to be too complex and nuanced for the Democrats on this thread who desperately believe Hilary Clinton has magical powers, but thank you for sharing.

You are both nuts. You GOP nutters are the ones obsessed with Hillary Clinton all these years later. And you think the GOP will help with schools? Are you high? Have you paid no attention to what THEY have been doing to public education in this country for the past several decades. And they TALK about immigration all the time, but they never actually do anything? Nope. Why would they? It's just a tool they use to whip you people into a froth and get you to vote GOP. Fear-mongering and empty promises.

Answer after answer from GOP women = we hate immigrants and we are still traumatized by the pandemic to the point that we can't even remember what actually happened. [b]Do you wake in the night screaming "shutdowns!!!" It's 2024. There is no pandemic now. No one is threatening shut downs. Good Lord, you people need therapy and cult deprogramming.[/b]

Insinuating you, as supporters of the GOP, understand nuance is...hysterical.

Many of us and our kids are still dealing with the educational impact of shutdowns, you low IQed, mouth breathing lower life form! Our problems are just so trivial and hilarious, aren’t they? You need to go play in traffic.

Dp- man I read these posts and I think, “ I guess I’ll just take my next huge tax cut and let the aholes struggle. You don’t want to help yourself, we can’t help you. Carry on!”

DP...which tax cut are you referring to? I'm a small business owner and Trump's "Tax Cuts and Jobs Act" increased my effective tax rate. So for the last six years I've been subsidizing the big corporations that actually got their taxes lowered. So "I'll just take my next huge tax cut and let the aholes struggle" is what the uber-wealthy are saying about people like me as they pull the lever for Trump.

Yes. This is exactly what I’m saying. My taxes ( I’m very wealthy now thanks to Trump) went down. They will go down again if he is re elected. I will get richer with Trump in office.
Small business owners like yourself aren’t part of the club. Neither are the 9-5 working joes.
But I can’t care about the average American more than they do. If posters wanna whine about how bad the pandemic was for them, well I can’t help them. Republican ladies wanna chance a pregnancy in an anti choice state? Got for it! They will probably be fine…. Unless they aren’t. 10-20% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage ( and that’s not including early unidentified miscarriages). Roll the dice!
You mad about immigration? Well go on and vote for the party that screams about the border emergency 24:7 BUT never passes legislation to adddress it. Like ever.
Sounds like ( uncontrolled immigration) is really negatively impacting your schools and neighborhoods. I wouldn’t know about that, because my child doesn’t go to public school and my city has zoning that doesn’t allow for dense housing. I would say that republicans will give you money for your child to choose an excellent private school, but let’s be real… even if they handed parents 20k to make a elite school attainable, the top independent schools will just raise their tuition 25k.
Sadly fascism will hurt us all, but I’m betting I still do better than most. Shrug.
Vote accordingly.

It’s nice of you to confirm how Democrats really feel about working class and middle class people.

I mean we all know the truth, but I do appreciate you just coming out and saying it.

No Sweetie. Just MAGAts. Ya’ll are dumb.

Reading this entire thread is all that every woman needs to know before the election. It so clearly indicates that Democrats think every woman who think for themselves or for their child is dumb. Can we count how many times we were called dumb on this thread. It a huge progress from the deplorable.

Right?? I have brought up personal experiences and real life examples of how progressive policies have harmed my city and my family specifically. But oh I must just be an idiot Trumper. Never mind that I can't stand Trump. I wish Romney could run again.

The sad thing about this thread — and I say this as a disillusioned Democrat — is that the Democrat posters have repeatedly failed both logically and scientifically. Plus, they’ve gone for absurdly dramatic personal attacks and utterly insane rants. It’s really just a microcosm of how awful the party is now.

The Democrats should be crushing what is one of the worst Republican candidates in years. Trump has felony convictions, for Pete’s sake, and is basically an awful person. Abortion is a huge vote driver, or at least it used to be before the Democrats made it crystal clear they despise women too. Yet the Democrats are barely hanging on and I think are going to lose, thanks to the Party’s know-towing to the most unhinged, most ridiculous, most insane parts of their Party. It’s a patently absurd situation.

I’m not understanding the genesis of the “Democrats despise women” narrative. I can’t even think of anything tangential that supports that. What gives??

When they dove headfirst into embracing gender ideology, which is extremely regressive and sexist.

Maybe in your fictional narrative, but not here in reality.

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Anonymous wrote:In general, single women are overwhelmingly democrats and married women are 50/50ish. It's odd that none of this discussion has centered on why married women may have voting preferences that align with male voting patterns, except the bizarre and misogynistic conclusion that women are brainless and will do as their husbands instruct.

Married women tend to have more in common with men because marriage causes them to be a unit and their interests are united. A married woman has no interest in males being discriminated against, etc.

It is interesting. I think it's because many married women have children, and so they're more plugged into community issues - public safety, schools, cost of groceries etc. And Democrats tend to be on the wrong side of everyday quality of life issues - particularly schools and crime.

This.

When I was single, I didn’t care nearly enough about schools, inflation, cost of living, immigration, or any other political issue for them to affect my voting. I didn’t even understand what school choice was, beyond knowing it was bad primarily because that’s what everyone in my Crown Heights circle thought and I didn’t care enough to look too hard into it. Naturally, I voted D.

Then I had an autistic child in a terrible school district with classrooms overcrowded due to a mass influx of undocumented immigrants, where every kid with any disability that needed accommodation was herded into one classroom and basically babysat. Popular wisdom in my area was that “privileged” parents like me should make do with public schools cuz like privates are bad and leaving meant I was racist. While I was trying to figure out what to do, the pandemic hit, and schools shut down, leaving me to educate a multiply disabled child basically by myself (good luck virtually educating kids like mine) and Dems kept schools closed long after the harms were documented. I got outta NY so fast to a southern state were life was still allowed to go on and where I had my pick of schools regardless of where I lived. Suddenly, school choice made sense. Educational policy and immigration became very real issues to me, and I could have slapped all my former Brooklynite friends who thought keeping schools closed indefinitely was totally fine.

Inflation hit us very hard because we needed every dollar for my son’s therapies and then later for serious health problems I developed. All the monied Democrats I knew telling me that inflation is a non-issue made me want to kill someone.

Life comes at you fast when you have children, a mortgage, and a whole life beyond pie in the sky foolishness to consider. I’m done with Democrats. Never ever thought I’d say that 10 years ago as a single woman.

Your story will to be too complex and nuanced for the Democrats on this thread who desperately believe Hilary Clinton has magical powers, but thank you for sharing.

You are both nuts. You GOP nutters are the ones obsessed with Hillary Clinton all these years later. And you think the GOP will help with schools? Are you high? Have you paid no attention to what THEY have been doing to public education in this country for the past several decades. And they TALK about immigration all the time, but they never actually do anything? Nope. Why would they? It's just a tool they use to whip you people into a froth and get you to vote GOP. Fear-mongering and empty promises.

Answer after answer from GOP women = we hate immigrants and we are still traumatized by the pandemic to the point that we can't even remember what actually happened. [b]Do you wake in the night screaming "shutdowns!!!" It's 2024. There is no pandemic now. No one is threatening shut downs. Good Lord, you people need therapy and cult deprogramming.[/b]

Insinuating you, as supporters of the GOP, understand nuance is...hysterical.

Many of us and our kids are still dealing with the educational impact of shutdowns, you low IQed, mouth breathing lower life form! Our problems are just so trivial and hilarious, aren’t they? You need to go play in traffic.

Dp- man I read these posts and I think, “ I guess I’ll just take my next huge tax cut and let the aholes struggle. You don’t want to help yourself, we can’t help you. Carry on!”

DP...which tax cut are you referring to? I'm a small business owner and Trump's "Tax Cuts and Jobs Act" increased my effective tax rate. So for the last six years I've been subsidizing the big corporations that actually got their taxes lowered. So "I'll just take my next huge tax cut and let the aholes struggle" is what the uber-wealthy are saying about people like me as they pull the lever for Trump.

Yes. This is exactly what I’m saying. My taxes ( I’m very wealthy now thanks to Trump) went down. They will go down again if he is re elected. I will get richer with Trump in office.
Small business owners like yourself aren’t part of the club. Neither are the 9-5 working joes.
But I can’t care about the average American more than they do. If posters wanna whine about how bad the pandemic was for them, well I can’t help them. Republican ladies wanna chance a pregnancy in an anti choice state? Got for it! They will probably be fine…. Unless they aren’t. 10-20% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage ( and that’s not including early unidentified miscarriages). Roll the dice!
You mad about immigration? Well go on and vote for the party that screams about the border emergency 24:7 BUT never passes legislation to adddress it. Like ever.
Sounds like ( uncontrolled immigration) is really negatively impacting your schools and neighborhoods. I wouldn’t know about that, because my child doesn’t go to public school and my city has zoning that doesn’t allow for dense housing. I would say that republicans will give you money for your child to choose an excellent private school, but let’s be real… even if they handed parents 20k to make a elite school attainable, the top independent schools will just raise their tuition 25k.
Sadly fascism will hurt us all, but I’m betting I still do better than most. Shrug.
Vote accordingly.

It’s nice of you to confirm how Democrats really feel about working class and middle class people.

I mean we all know the truth, but I do appreciate you just coming out and saying it.

No Sweetie. Just MAGAts. Ya’ll are dumb.

Reading this entire thread is all that every woman needs to know before the election. It so clearly indicates that Democrats think every woman who think for themselves or for their child is dumb. Can we count how many times we were called dumb on this thread. It a huge progress from the deplorable.

Right?? I have brought up personal experiences and real life examples of how progressive policies have harmed my city and my family specifically. But oh I must just be an idiot Trumper. Never mind that I can't stand Trump. I wish Romney could run again.

The sad thing about this thread — and I say this as a disillusioned Democrat — is that the Democrat posters have repeatedly failed both logically and scientifically. Plus, they’ve gone for absurdly dramatic personal attacks and utterly insane rants. It’s really just a microcosm of how awful the party is now.

The Democrats should be crushing what is one of the worst Republican candidates in years. Trump has felony convictions, for Pete’s sake, and is basically an awful person. Abortion is a huge vote driver, or at least it used to be before the Democrats made it crystal clear they despise women too. Yet the Democrats are barely hanging on and I think are going to lose, thanks to the Party’s know-towing to the most unhinged, most ridiculous, most insane parts of their Party. It’s a patently absurd situation.

“Scientifically”?

The “stupid” comments are driven by the fact that there is no rational reason why an intelligent person would vote for Trump.

Well, look at the lady who fervently believes that any other US president would have fully stopped a global pandemic yet didn’t understand the significant differences in viral spread characteristics between SARS and Covid.

That’s religious belief in action. It’s certainly nothing approaching science.

I didn’t see that comment but just about any POTUS (or my tween) would have done a better job leading the US as covid hit.

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The statistics are clear. Women who are married with children are more likely to vote Republican and single childless women are more likely to vote Democrat.

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Anonymous wrote:The statistics are clear. Women who are married with children are more likely to vote Republican and single childless women are more likely to vote Democrat.

Yes. This is basically it. As much as people try to complicate it (for example, the person who early in this thread said that Republicans can be identified by taking Stanley cups and bog bags to the pool-- still need to Google bog bag), it really comes down to marriage.

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Most women I know are single issue voters. We’re not happy about inflation or dementia or nuclear war with Russia, but if the guy doing those things is pro-choice, he’s got our vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Most women I know are single issue voters. We’re not happy about inflation or dementia or nuclear war with Russia, but if the guy doing those things is pro-choice, he’s got our vote.

Bleak.

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Anonymous wrote:Most women I know are single issue voters. We’re not happy about inflation or dementia or nuclear war with Russia, but if the guy doing those things is pro-choice, he’s got our vote.

A lot of men are single issue voters too.

Virtually all the conservative white men I know (and there are hundreds) vote based on who they think will stick it to the blacks. They couch it in all sorts of ways (being anti-“DEI,” favoring “colorblindness,” wanting “merit only,” being against “special interests”), but it’s about sticking it to black people specifically. They want to stick it to women too, but anyone who seems to care about black people is never getting their vote.

Virtually all the black men I know who are swinging away from Democrats (a lot because of outreach efforts I used to coordinate) are doing so because they hate black women’s success. They’ll forgive a politician for saying awful things about black men as long as they get the idea black women will suffer first. Unlike conservative white men, conservative black men are open about hating black women who do better than black men. Not sure why they feel comfortable being so vocal about it, but they do.

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Anonymous wrote:Most women I know are single issue voters. We’re not happy about inflation or dementia or nuclear war with Russia, but if the guy doing those things is pro-choice, he’s got our vote.

A lot of men are single issue voters too.

Virtually all the conservative white men I know (and there are hundreds) vote based on who they think will stick it to the blacks. They couch it in all sorts of ways (being anti-“DEI,” favoring “colorblindness,” wanting “merit only,” being against “special interests”), but it’s about sticking it to black people specifically. They want to stick it to women too, but anyone who seems to care about black people is never getting their vote.

Virtually all the black men I know who are swinging away from Democrats (a lot because of outreach efforts I used to coordinate) are doing so because they hate black women’s success. They’ll forgive a politician for saying awful things about black men as long as they get the idea black women will suffer first. Unlike conservative white men, conservative black men are open about hating black women who do better than black men. Not sure why they feel comfortable being so vocal about it, but they do.

You need to immediately move, change jobs, and get new friends. You're surrounded by highly abnormal people.

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Anonymous wrote:In general, single women are overwhelmingly democrats and married women are 50/50ish. It's odd that none of this discussion has centered on why married women may have voting preferences that align with male voting patterns, except the bizarre and misogynistic conclusion that women are brainless and will do as their husbands instruct.

Married women tend to have more in common with men because marriage causes them to be a unit and their interests are united. A married woman has no interest in males being discriminated against, etc.

It is interesting. I think it's because many married women have children, and so they're more plugged into community issues - public safety, schools, cost of groceries etc. And Democrats tend to be on the wrong side of everyday quality of life issues - particularly schools and crime.

This.

When I was single, I didn’t care nearly enough about schools, inflation, cost of living, immigration, or any other political issue for them to affect my voting. I didn’t even understand what school choice was, beyond knowing it was bad primarily because that’s what everyone in my Crown Heights circle thought and I didn’t care enough to look too hard into it. Naturally, I voted D.

Then I had an autistic child in a terrible school district with classrooms overcrowded due to a mass influx of undocumented immigrants, where every kid with any disability that needed accommodation was herded into one classroom and basically babysat. Popular wisdom in my area was that “privileged” parents like me should make do with public schools cuz like privates are bad and leaving meant I was racist. While I was trying to figure out what to do, the pandemic hit, and schools shut down, leaving me to educate a multiply disabled child basically by myself (good luck virtually educating kids like mine) and Dems kept schools closed long after the harms were documented. I got outta NY so fast to a southern state were life was still allowed to go on and where I had my pick of schools regardless of where I lived. Suddenly, school choice made sense. Educational policy and immigration became very real issues to me, and I could have slapped all my former Brooklynite friends who thought keeping schools closed indefinitely was totally fine.

Inflation hit us very hard because we needed every dollar for my son’s therapies and then later for serious health problems I developed. All the monied Democrats I knew telling me that inflation is a non-issue made me want to kill someone.

Life comes at you fast when you have children, a mortgage, and a whole life beyond pie in the sky foolishness to consider. I’m done with Democrats. Never ever thought I’d say that 10 years ago as a single woman.

Your story will to be too complex and nuanced for the Democrats on this thread who desperately believe Hilary Clinton has magical powers, but thank you for sharing.

You are both nuts. You GOP nutters are the ones obsessed with Hillary Clinton all these years later. And you think the GOP will help with schools? Are you high? Have you paid no attention to what THEY have been doing to public education in this country for the past several decades. And they TALK about immigration all the time, but they never actually do anything? Nope. Why would they? It's just a tool they use to whip you people into a froth and get you to vote GOP. Fear-mongering and empty promises.

Answer after answer from GOP women = we hate immigrants and we are still traumatized by the pandemic to the point that we can't even remember what actually happened. [b]Do you wake in the night screaming "shutdowns!!!" It's 2024. There is no pandemic now. No one is threatening shut downs. Good Lord, you people need therapy and cult deprogramming.[/b]

Insinuating you, as supporters of the GOP, understand nuance is...hysterical.

Many of us and our kids are still dealing with the educational impact of shutdowns, you low IQed, mouth breathing lower life form! Our problems are just so trivial and hilarious, aren’t they? You need to go play in traffic.

Dp- man I read these posts and I think, “ I guess I’ll just take my next huge tax cut and let the aholes struggle. You don’t want to help yourself, we can’t help you. Carry on!”

DP...which tax cut are you referring to? I'm a small business owner and Trump's "Tax Cuts and Jobs Act" increased my effective tax rate. So for the last six years I've been subsidizing the big corporations that actually got their taxes lowered. So "I'll just take my next huge tax cut and let the aholes struggle" is what the uber-wealthy are saying about people like me as they pull the lever for Trump.

Yes. This is exactly what I’m saying. My taxes ( I’m very wealthy now thanks to Trump) went down. They will go down again if he is re elected. I will get richer with Trump in office.
Small business owners like yourself aren’t part of the club. Neither are the 9-5 working joes.
But I can’t care about the average American more than they do. If posters wanna whine about how bad the pandemic was for them, well I can’t help them. Republican ladies wanna chance a pregnancy in an anti choice state? Got for it! They will probably be fine…. Unless they aren’t. 10-20% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage ( and that’s not including early unidentified miscarriages). Roll the dice!
You mad about immigration? Well go on and vote for the party that screams about the border emergency 24:7 BUT never passes legislation to adddress it. Like ever.
Sounds like ( uncontrolled immigration) is really negatively impacting your schools and neighborhoods. I wouldn’t know about that, because my child doesn’t go to public school and my city has zoning that doesn’t allow for dense housing. I would say that republicans will give you money for your child to choose an excellent private school, but let’s be real… even if they handed parents 20k to make a elite school attainable, the top independent schools will just raise their tuition 25k.
Sadly fascism will hurt us all, but I’m betting I still do better than most. Shrug.
Vote accordingly.

It’s nice of you to confirm how Democrats really feel about working class and middle class people.

I mean we all know the truth, but I do appreciate you just coming out and saying it.

No Sweetie. Just MAGAts. Ya’ll are dumb.

Reading this entire thread is all that every woman needs to know before the election. It so clearly indicates that Democrats think every woman who think for themselves or for their child is dumb. Can we count how many times we were called dumb on this thread. It a huge progress from the deplorable.

Right?? I have brought up personal experiences and real life examples of how progressive policies have harmed my city and my family specifically. But oh I must just be an idiot Trumper. Never mind that I can't stand Trump. I wish Romney could run again.

The sad thing about this thread — and I say this as a disillusioned Democrat — is that the Democrat posters have repeatedly failed both logically and scientifically. Plus, they’ve gone for absurdly dramatic personal attacks and utterly insane rants. It’s really just a microcosm of how awful the party is now.

The Democrats should be crushing what is one of the worst Republican candidates in years. Trump has felony convictions, for Pete’s sake, and is basically an awful person. Abortion is a huge vote driver, or at least it used to be before the Democrats made it crystal clear they despise women too. Yet the Democrats are barely hanging on and I think are going to lose, thanks to the Party’s know-towing to the most unhinged, most ridiculous, most insane parts of their Party. It’s a patently absurd situation.

“Scientifically”?

The “stupid” comments are driven by the fact that there is no rational reason why an intelligent person would vote for Trump.

Well, look at the lady who fervently believes that any other US president would have fully stopped a global pandemic yet didn’t understand the significant differences in viral spread characteristics between SARS and Covid.

That’s religious belief in action. It’s certainly nothing approaching science.

I didn’t see that comment but just about any POTUS (or my tween) would have done a better job leading the US as covid hit.

That PP didn’t say “leading the US.” That PP believes any other US president would have fully stopped a global pandemic, while not understanding the differences between SARS and Covid. She explicitly said she believe any other President would have stopped the pandemic.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]In general, single women are overwhelmingly democrats and married women are 50/50ish. It's odd that none of this discussion has centered on why married women may have voting preferences that align with male voting patterns, except the bizarre and misogynistic conclusion that women are brainless and will do as their husbands instruct.

Married women tend to have more in common with men because marriage causes them to be a unit and their interests are united. A married woman has no interest in males being discriminated against, etc. [/quote]


It is interesting. I think it's because many married women have children, and so they're more plugged into community issues - public safety, schools, cost of groceries etc. And Democrats tend to be on the wrong side of everyday quality of life issues - particularly schools and crime. [/quote]
This.

When I was single, I didn’t care nearly enough about schools, inflation, cost of living, immigration, or any other political issue for them to affect my voting. I didn’t even understand what school choice was, beyond knowing it was bad primarily because that’s what everyone in my Crown Heights circle thought and I didn’t care enough to look too hard into it. Naturally, I voted D.

Then I had an autistic child in a terrible school district with classrooms overcrowded due to a mass influx of undocumented immigrants, where every kid with any disability that needed accommodation was herded into one classroom and basically babysat. Popular wisdom in my area was that “privileged” parents like me should make do with public schools cuz like privates are bad and leaving meant I was racist. While I was trying to figure out what to do, the pandemic hit, and schools shut down, leaving me to educate a multiply disabled child basically by myself (good luck virtually educating kids like mine) and Dems kept schools closed long after the harms were documented. I got outta NY so fast to a southern state were life was still allowed to go on and where I had my pick of schools regardless of where I lived. Suddenly, school choice made sense. Educational policy and immigration became very real issues to me, and I could have slapped all my former Brooklynite friends who thought keeping schools closed indefinitely was totally fine.

Inflation hit us very hard because we needed every dollar for my son’s therapies and then later for serious health problems I developed. All the monied Democrats I knew telling me that inflation is a non-issue made me want to kill someone.

Life comes at you fast when you have children, a mortgage, and a whole life beyond pie in the sky foolishness to consider. I’m done with Democrats. Never ever thought I’d say that 10 years ago as a single woman.[/quote]

Your story will to be too complex and nuanced for the Democrats on this thread who desperately believe Hilary Clinton has magical powers, but thank you for sharing. [/quote]

You are both nuts. You GOP nutters are the ones obsessed with Hillary Clinton all these years later. And you think the GOP will help with schools? Are you high? Have you paid no attention to what THEY have been doing to public education in this country for the past several decades. And they TALK about immigration all the time, but they never actually do anything? Nope. Why would they? It's just a tool they use to whip you people into a froth and get you to vote GOP. Fear-mongering and empty promises.

Answer after answer from GOP women = we hate immigrants and we are still traumatized by the pandemic to the point that we can't even remember what actually happened. [b] [b]Do you wake in the night screaming "shutdowns!!!" It's 2024. There is no pandemic now. [/b] No one is threatening shut downs. Good Lord, you people need therapy and cult deprogramming.[/b]

Insinuating you, as supporters of the GOP, understand nuance is...hysterical.[/quote]
Many of us and our kids are still dealing with the educational impact of shutdowns, you low IQed, mouth breathing lower life form! Our problems are just so trivial and hilarious, aren’t they? You need to go play in traffic.[/quote]
Dp- man I read these posts and I think, “ I guess I’ll just take my next huge tax cut and let the aholes struggle. You don’t want to help yourself, we can’t help you. Carry on!”[/quote]
DP...which tax cut are you referring to? I'm a small business owner and Trump's "Tax Cuts and Jobs Act" increased my effective tax rate. So for the last six years I've been subsidizing the big corporations that actually got their taxes lowered. So "I'll just take my next huge tax cut and let the aholes struggle" is what the uber-wealthy are saying about people like me as they pull the lever for Trump.[/quote]

Yes. This is exactly what I’m saying. My taxes ( I’m very wealthy now thanks to Trump) went down. They will go down again if he is re elected. I will get richer with Trump in office.
Small business owners like yourself aren’t part of the club. Neither are the 9-5 working joes.
But I can’t care about the average American more than they do. If posters wanna whine about how bad the pandemic was for them, well I can’t help them. Republican ladies wanna chance a pregnancy in an anti choice state? Got for it! They will probably be fine…. Unless they aren’t. 10-20% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage ( and that’s not including early unidentified miscarriages). Roll the dice!
You mad about immigration? Well go on and vote for the party that screams about the border emergency 24:7 BUT never passes legislation to adddress it. Like ever.
Sounds like ( uncontrolled immigration) is really negatively impacting your schools and neighborhoods. I wouldn’t know about that, because my child doesn’t go to public school and my city has zoning that doesn’t allow for dense housing. I would say that republicans will give you money for your child to choose an excellent private school, but let’s be real… even if they handed parents 20k to make a elite school attainable, the top independent schools will just raise their tuition 25k.
Sadly fascism will hurt us all, but I’m betting I still do better than most. Shrug.
Vote accordingly. [/quote]

It’s nice of you to confirm how Democrats really feel about working class and middle class people.

I mean we all know the truth, but I do appreciate you just coming out and saying it. [/quote]
No Sweetie. Just MAGAts. Ya’ll are dumb.[/quote]

Reading this entire thread is all that every woman needs to know before the election. It so clearly indicates that Democrats think every woman who think for themselves or for their child is dumb. Can we count how many times we were called dumb on this thread. It a huge progress from the deplorable. [/quote]

Right?? I have brought up personal experiences and real life examples of how progressive policies have harmed my city and my family specifically. But oh I must just be an idiot Trumper. Never mind that I can't stand Trump. I wish Romney could run again. [/quote]

The sad thing about this thread — and I say this as a disillusioned Democrat — is that the Democrat posters have repeatedly failed both logically and scientifically. Plus, they’ve gone for absurdly dramatic personal attacks and utterly insane rants. It’s really just a microcosm of how awful the party is now.

The Democrats should be crushing what is one of the worst Republican candidates in years. Trump has felony convictions, for Pete’s sake, and is basically an awful person. Abortion is a huge vote driver, or at least it used to be before the Democrats made it crystal clear they despise women too. Yet the Democrats are barely hanging on and I think are going to lose, thanks to the Party’s know-towing to the most unhinged, most ridiculous, most insane parts of their Party. It’s a patently absurd situation. [/quote]

I’m not understanding the genesis of the “Democrats despise women” narrative. I can’t even think of anything tangential that supports that. What gives??[/quote]

When they dove headfirst into embracing gender ideology, which is extremely regressive and sexist. [/quote]

Maybe in your fictional narrative, but not here in reality. [/quote]

Go ahead and keep telling women to refer to themselves as “front holes” or “uterus-havers” and see how well that works out for you.

It doesn’t matter, in any event. Trump, a convicted grifting felon, is going to win. It’s bleak.