Gaza War, Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Detained Hamas terrorists have admitted that Hamas uses hospitals to avoid being targeted. Shocker!

Tortured Hamas parrot their captors talking points. Shocker!!!

Gaza is the size of Manhattan. There are 500km of tunnels.

Simple math states there are tunnels under pretty much every square mile of that place.

Sorry. It’s a bit bigger than that: 140 square miles. But still. They have tunnels everywhere. They’d have to in order to fit 300 miles of them in that amount of space.

You don’t know anything about how many kilometers of tunnels there are or where they pass. And the tunnels are not destroyable by aerial bombs so it’s all an excuse for Genicide.

DP. Nah. Bunker busters can do some meaningful damage to tunnels.

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Anonymous wrote:Detained Hamas terrorists have admitted that Hamas uses hospitals to avoid being targeted. Shocker!

Tortured Hamas parrot their captors talking points. Shocker!!!

I urge you to listen to the reporting of Trey Yingst.

He told a story of meeting with Hamas leadership back ini 2014 (he has met with them several times and still has contacts with some of them). The meeting was in a room in the hospital. He said there was the emergency door, and right next to it was the door he was led through where several Hamas members were present.

So, yes. They do use hospitals for meetings and for weapons storage. And, it is not just the tunnels under the hospitals.

Yes, the evidence is overwhelming.

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Anonymous wrote:The US is preventing people from leaving? Jesus you people are deranged.

This US administration has made no arrangements or demands for safe passage of its citizens. Not even a mildly worded statement. They go to the Rafah crossing in desperation and can't be let out. There are dozens posting on Twitter and Instagram. Some have already died. They are nothing but little chess pieces to deliver a cruel message.

That is just false you Hamas parrot.

The truth is there for everyone to see you despicable shill.

The truth? Truth is you want them to die in your deranged jihad.

I want them to come home, but they can't, because making an example of them is a useful terror and dehumanization tactic.

And who is using them? Hamas.

The US is demanding safe passage south, Hamas is preventing it.

What? There have been multiple reports of crowds gathering at the Rafah crossing after getting notified that it's about to open. They came and it never opened. Enough with the bs that Hamas is preventing it. The crossing is closed. It's not Hamas that's keeping it closed.

I don't understand why the US just doesn't extract its citizens. They don't need a crossing. Gaza has a sea coast. Why can't they get a boat to dock there and get them out to a bigger ship?

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These youth need to go over and help them fight. Wonder how that would work out for them?

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Anonymous wrote:Detained Hamas terrorists have admitted that Hamas uses hospitals to avoid being targeted. Shocker!

Tortured Hamas parrot their captors talking points. Shocker!!!

I urge you to listen to the reporting of Trey Yingst.

He told a story of meeting with Hamas leadership back ini 2014 (he has met with them several times and still has contacts with some of them). The meeting was in a room in the hospital. He said there was the emergency door, and right next to it was the door he was led through where several Hamas members were present.

So, yes. They do use hospitals for meetings and for weapons storage. And, it is not just the tunnels under the hospitals.

Hahahaha Hamas led an American, nay not a simple American but a Fox News Reporter, right into their headquarters and showed him the secret door too. Then they handed him a laptop with their strategic Jihad plan and their rolodex. 🤡

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Anonymous wrote:From the Atlantic, a deeply thoughtful article about the profound failure of the settler-colonialist language of the left in this conflict.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/decolonization-narrative-dangerous-and-false/675799/

The whole article is incisive and well-written; here is one quote that stood out:

I always wondered about the leftist intellectuals who supported Stalin, and those aristocratic sympathizers and peace activists who excused Hitler. Today’s Hamas apologists and atrocity-deniers, with their robotic denunciations of “settler-colonialism,” belong to the same tradition but worse: They have abundant evidence of the slaughter of old people, teenagers, and children, but unlike those fools of the 1930s, who slowly came around to the truth, they have not changed their views an iota. The lack of decency and respect for human life is astonishing: Almost instantly after the Hamas attack, a legion of people emerged who downplayed the slaughter, or denied actual atrocities had even happened, as if Hamas had just carried out a traditional military operation against soldiers. October 7 deniers, like Holocaust deniers, exist in an especially dark place.

They are using the colonizer narrative to gain support of gullible people in the nebulous "POC" category, ironically many whose parents moved from their non western country to the country they are protesting in.

I gifted the article for those without an Atlantic subscription:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/10/decolonization-narrative-dangerous-and-false/675799/?gift=-JEepDEcAn1D86wtlbLwDMUUddpd2QV5A_mdxlSzdRk&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share

Thank you!

I think the author makes specious arguments. I don’t think of Israel and Palestine through a prism of race - I don’t care about that. The author moves from that immediately into a sentence where he claims Israel’s critics argue that Israel “therefore” cannot be oppressed or victimized - as if that’s the argument used against Israel’s actions when it isn’t. Israel is in my view running an apartheid state as recognized by a sizable number of Israelis in the WB, and is a rightist-run hawkish state that has oppressed murdered and humiliated Palestinians for decades. None of that view is based on US-style identity politics.

The rhetoric of the past 3 weeks or so is 100% U.S. style identity politics--people not condemning Hamas have no other rhetorical tactic to use. They have to make themselves a victim.

Of course the same can be said about the ardent pro-Israelis with their reflexive claims of anti-Semitism, refusal to acknowledge any contribution or fault, and appeals to some sort of ancient historical claim. It's the exact same "we were oppressed in the past so we cannot oppress now" bull crap.

Nope, your whole argument fails because Israel is not at fault for being terrorized against. An no, terrorism is not equal to having your feelings hurt because of a nation that was formed closed to 80 years ago.

Thank you for providng such an on point example.

What has been happening in the West Bank is terrorism. The Israeli Government has terrorists in its Cabinet. There is more than enough fault to go around and yes it is all connected to each other.

Then fight the war you started on 10/7 against your "terrorizers" and don't ask for a ceasefire.

First off F You. You specifically. You are a monster. I didn't do anything and I don't support crimes against humanity. Any crimes against humanity.

You are so mad and spouting explatives because I blew up your entire argument. Your post was rendered non sensible and you do not know how to react.

No you didnt. You outed yourself as a stain on humanity. A walking talking golem of the banality of evil that accused a random person of being a terrorist that commits crimes against humanity because they dared to point out the rot within the Israeli government.

The most ironic thing about this is that while you think you are defending your favorite team you aren't. You're exposing the evil in your heart and discrediting them by implicationm. You have harmed your own cause with your personal inhumanity and evil.

When you (Hamas) start a war, don't be surprised when people fight back, and your loved ones are harmed in the process.

This is what you fail to realize. Hamas doesn’t have “loved ones”. You cannot get to them by harming their human shields. All you do is give up your own humanity.

??? Do you truly believe this?

That Hamas does not value Palestinian life? Yeah I absolutely do. They may value Palestinian life more than Israeli life, but they aren’t too fussed about casualties in general. It’s because they believe in the war above all things and have managed to sacrifice their humanity to get there. You cannot out-terrorize a terrorist organization. You only lose yourself trying to do that. Which is where Israel is right now.

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Anonymous wrote:You all don’t understand jihadists.

They WANT a holy war. That’s their entire purpose in life.

They do not care about dying because they believe they will become martyrs and will gain infinite reward in the afterlife.

Yeah we know. That’s why we’re trying to tell you that they are responsible for the devastation. They WANT IT

All Palestinians?

No. Hamas.

Hamas is responsible for 10/7. Israel is responsible for their retaliation. Together they have caused death and suffering.

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Anonymous wrote:You all don’t understand jihadists.

They WANT a holy war. That’s their entire purpose in life.

They do not care about dying because they believe they will become martyrs and will gain infinite reward in the afterlife.

Yeah we know. That’s why we’re trying to tell you that they are responsible for the devastation. They WANT IT

All Palestinians?

No. Hamas.

Hamas is responsible for 10/7. Israel is responsible for their retaliation. Together they have caused death and suffering.

No you don’t get it. Hamas believes that civilian deaths are justified on its own side! Human shields = martyrs. They will do nothing to protect their own people.

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Anonymous wrote:Detained Hamas terrorists have admitted that Hamas uses hospitals to avoid being targeted. Shocker!

Is there anyone in the whole world who is surprised by this? Including myself who is labeled as “pro-Palestine” because I ask for Israel not to kill Palestinian children?

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Anonymous wrote:Detained Hamas terrorists have admitted that Hamas uses hospitals to avoid being targeted. Shocker!

Is there anyone in the whole world who is surprised by this? Including myself who is labeled as “pro-Palestine” because I ask for Israel not to kill Palestinian children?

Just look upthread for someone trying to deny it.

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Anonymous wrote:All the moral high ground the West had in the Ukraine war against Russia has evaporated. Not placing Palestinian civilian lives on the same level as Israeli civilian lives reveals that, at its core, the West still holds racist tendencies. That's why most of the people protesting against the West's support for Israel are minorities who have in the past suffered from Western racism. Biden will suffer defeat, at the hands of minorities and it will be well deserved.

Now, if you say that “hey Trump is worse for minorities”, okay but he doesn’t pretend otherwise. At least we know what we are getting, not stabbed in the back by Biden.

You really should read the Atlantic article that was gifted on page 60.

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Anyway, the Hezbollah has invited me to perform. You know, it's their annual terrorist luncheon. I'm gonna do it in Farsi.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a friend who thinks Trump sold Israel out to Russia and Hamas. Honestly not so far fetched. The timing is just really suspect.

He even said “it wouldn’t have happened if I were still president”. You can take that a certain way I suppose.

The world has gone absolutely mad. Praying for a deescalation.

I wouldn't say that. My take would be more like Bibi sold us out to the Russians and then they stabbed him in the back.

It might be an all of the above situation. I suppose it doesn’t matter.

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Anonymous wrote:Detained Hamas terrorists have admitted that Hamas uses hospitals to avoid being targeted. Shocker!

Tortured Hamas parrot their captors talking points. Shocker!!!

Gaza is the size of Manhattan. There are 500km of tunnels.

Simple math states there are tunnels under pretty much every square mile of that place.

Sorry. It’s a bit bigger than that: 140 square miles. But still. They have tunnels everywhere. They’d have to in order to fit 300 miles of them in that amount of space.

You don’t know anything about how many kilometers of tunnels there are or where they pass. And the tunnels are not destroyable by aerial bombs so it’s all an excuse for Genicide.

My numbers are from the AP: https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-tunnels-warfare-15453b5729e38aeb55af5b419835a5eb#:~:text=Yehiyeh%20Sinwar%2C%20Hamas'%20political%20leader,the%20size%20of%20Washington%2C%20D.C.

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They need to drop block buster Bombs on Gaza to destroy the tunnels. Like a carpet bombing. Announce when and where it it will happen so folks can move away.

They wall it up like that movie Escape From NY

And why we are at it our a huge wall around Israel and entire Middle East and make it a no fly zone.
But sadly that won’t happen