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Anonymous wrote:If the posters blaming the FBI have a way for the federal government to ensure that local law enforcement believes rape reports and takes action— including even collecting the rape kits— i’m all ears.

But testing and taking action on rape kits— heck even 6 days after they’re collected— does nothing at all to protect girls from the consequences of the crime which has already taken place. A rape kit does not detect pregnancy.

So we’re back at the beginning. Why do you think these girls should have to give birth to their rapists babies?

Even the NYT writes articles using words like “almost” in their headlines because they know that rape is an exception.

What are you talking about? There is no rape exception in the Ohio law despite the governor asking for one.

And sadly rape is not an “exception”. There will be at least ten reported pregnancies in girls under 13 in Ohio this year. That doesn’t include the girls whose parents find a way to get them care. It is horrifically common.

In Ohio, she fell under this since the left agrees that 10 years old is too young and will cause bodily harm.

“Abortions beyond this threshold are legal if the provider determines it's a medical emergency and necessary to prevent the pregnant person's death or "serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function."”

Yet she had to leave the state to get an abortion. So your forced birth law is as crappy as everyone is trying to tell you it is while you keep arguing it’s decent. Such a moronic take on the world. Oh, well the law says this, kind of. I guess screw those girls and their lives and future fertility.

Any woke hospital can simply turn people away and blame the law to get media attention.

If that was the case, and they weren’t following the law, wouldn’t the Ohio state medical board be removing their medical licenses? Wouldn’t Ohio lawmakers be on every television saying they got the law all wrong and rushing to pass clarification?

And yet….

What? Makes no sense.

Oh gosh let me help you.

The way you know this is how the law was intended to work is that, when the news broke that a ten year old had been denied care, no one said “oh hospital, you misunderstood our law”

Governor deWine didn’t get on TV to explain that OF COURSE a ten year old doesn’t have to give birth to her rapists baby.

The legislators who drafted, proposed, and voted for this legislation didn’t come out and say “no no you’ve got it all wrong”.

They said it was a hoax.

The law in Ohio is that children are expected to have their rapists’ babies. And any other point is just trying to obfuscate that fact.

j

Exactly. Why isn't the Ohio legislature coming out to say unequivocally that minors are exempted from their abortion ban?

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Anonymous wrote:If the hospital cared about 10 year old rape victims, they would have done the abortion and when charged (if, actually), put it to the media. The charges (if any) would be dropped

Do you have any idea what HIPAA is or how it works or how forced birther ghouls enforce the law? Any idea whatsoever?

I think you just like the idea of little girls in peril. I honestly think many of you delight in this mentally. Take it from there because I’m not writing out all the words but I think this excites a lot of you.

Instead of insulting me, why don’t you think about it. It’s my belief that hospitals are doing this to patients deliberately for the ‘cause’

What ‘cause’? Showing the legislature what the laws they passed prohibited? As interpreted by teams of lawyers employed by said hospitals?

From what I see of that law, there was no reason she would have been prevented from having an abortion in Ohio, given her age and risk to her life. The hospital refused, rather than clarify with legislature. The cause meaning turning away legitimate abortion cases to push the idea the state stopped it.

This is not a thing, and there is no mechanism by which to do so, but nice try.

What an abject idiot that PP is. Do they really think doctors call the legislature? Is there some hotline? This is so cringy.

Hospital administrators do, yes

Which legislator do they call? How do they choose?

That’s for them to learn, if they haven’t already. If I’m a hospital administrator, this is something I have posted in my office

What specifically is posted in your office? The number for the legislator who drafted it? Or the primary sponsor? The co-sponsors? The hacks at the American Legislative Exchange Council who actually wrote it? The governor who signed it? Pray tell us.

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Anonymous wrote:If the hospital cared about 10 year old rape victims, they would have done the abortion and when charged (if, actually), put it to the media. The charges (if any) would be dropped

Do you have any idea what HIPAA is or how it works or how forced birther ghouls enforce the law? Any idea whatsoever?

I think you just like the idea of little girls in peril. I honestly think many of you delight in this mentally. Take it from there because I’m not writing out all the words but I think this excites a lot of you.

Instead of insulting me, why don’t you think about it. It’s my belief that hospitals are doing this to patients deliberately for the ‘cause’

What ‘cause’? Showing the legislature what the laws they passed prohibited? As interpreted by teams of lawyers employed by said hospitals?

From what I see of that law, there was no reason she would have been prevented from having an abortion in Ohio, given her age and risk to her life. The hospital refused, rather than clarify with legislature. The cause meaning turning away legitimate abortion cases to push the idea the state stopped it.

This is not a thing, and there is no mechanism by which to do so, but nice try.

What an abject idiot that PP is. Do they really think doctors call the legislature? Is there some hotline? This is so cringy.

Hospital administrators do, yes

Which legislator do they call? How do they choose?

That’s for them to learn, if they haven’t already. If I’m a hospital administrator, this is something I have posted in my office

Legislatures pass laws, they don't clarify them. It would be up to the executive branch to decide whether or not to prosecute and the judicial branch to decide if such a prosecution was constitutional.

If the laws aren’t clear, do the abortion and let it litigate.

Are you high? Do you want to get convicted for doing your job, then spend the next decade fighting it? Litigation isn’t free. You go ahead and donate $100K to a defense fund for these docs.

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Anonymous wrote:If the hospital cared about 10 year old rape victims, they would have done the abortion and when charged (if, actually), put it to the media. The charges (if any) would be dropped

Do you have any idea what HIPAA is or how it works or how forced birther ghouls enforce the law? Any idea whatsoever?

I think you just like the idea of little girls in peril. I honestly think many of you delight in this mentally. Take it from there because I’m not writing out all the words but I think this excites a lot of you.

Instead of insulting me, why don’t you think about it. It’s my belief that hospitals are doing this to patients deliberately for the ‘cause’

What ‘cause’? Showing the legislature what the laws they passed prohibited? As interpreted by teams of lawyers employed by said hospitals?

From what I see of that law, there was no reason she would have been prevented from having an abortion in Ohio, given her age and risk to her life. The hospital refused, rather than clarify with legislature. The cause meaning turning away legitimate abortion cases to push the idea the state stopped it.

This is not a thing, and there is no mechanism by which to do so, but nice try.

What an abject idiot that PP is. Do they really think doctors call the legislature? Is there some hotline? This is so cringy.

Hospital administrators do, yes

Which legislator do they call? How do they choose?

That’s for them to learn, if they haven’t already. If I’m a hospital administrator, this is something I have posted in my office

Legislatures pass laws, they don't clarify them. It would be up to the executive branch to decide whether or not to prosecute and the judicial branch to decide if such a prosecution was constitutional.

If the laws aren’t clear, do the abortion and let it litigate.

Are you high? Do you want to get convicted for doing your job, then spend the next decade fighting it? Litigation isn’t free. You go ahead and donate $100K to a defense fund for these docs.

+1 The Indiana doctor who was still able to do it legally has been investigated nine ways to Sunday and she didn’t even do anything wrong. Ohio would have taken the original doctor’s license and hung her in a public square.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the posters blaming the FBI have a way for the federal government to ensure that local law enforcement believes rape reports and takes action— including even collecting the rape kits— i’m all ears.

But testing and taking action on rape kits— heck even 6 days after they’re collected— does nothing at all to protect girls from the consequences of the crime which has already taken place. A rape kit does not detect pregnancy.

So we’re back at the beginning. Why do you think these girls should have to give birth to their rapists babies?

Even the NYT writes articles using words like “almost” in their headlines because they know that rape is an exception.

What are you talking about? There is no rape exception in the Ohio law despite the governor asking for one.

And sadly rape is not an “exception”. There will be at least ten reported pregnancies in girls under 13 in Ohio this year. That doesn’t include the girls whose parents find a way to get them care. It is horrifically common.

In Ohio, she fell under this since the left agrees that 10 years old is too young and will cause bodily harm.

“Abortions beyond this threshold are legal if the provider determines it's a medical emergency and necessary to prevent the pregnant person's death or "serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function."”

Yet she had to leave the state to get an abortion. So your forced birth law is as crappy as everyone is trying to tell you it is while you keep arguing it’s decent. Such a moronic take on the world. Oh, well the law says this, kind of. I guess screw those girls and their lives and future fertility.

Any woke hospital can simply turn people away and blame the law to get media attention.

If that was the case, and they weren’t following the law, wouldn’t the Ohio state medical board be removing their medical licenses? Wouldn’t Ohio lawmakers be on every television saying they got the law all wrong and rushing to pass clarification?

And yet….

What? Makes no sense.

Oh gosh let me help you.

The way you know this is how the law was intended to work is that, when the news broke that a ten year old had been denied care, no one said “oh hospital, you misunderstood our law”

Governor deWine didn’t get on TV to explain that OF COURSE a ten year old doesn’t have to give birth to her rapists baby.

The legislators who drafted, proposed, and voted for this legislation didn’t come out and say “no no you’ve got it all wrong”.

They said it was a hoax.

The law in Ohio is that children are expected to have their rapists’ babies. And any other point is just trying to obfuscate that fact.

j

Exactly. Why isn't the Ohio legislature coming out to say unequivocally that minors are exempted from their abortion ban?

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You hear all that silence from forced birther lawmakers? That’s the silence of satisfaction.

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the hospital cared about 10 year old rape victims, they would have done the abortion and when charged (if, actually), put it to the media. The charges (if any) would be dropped

Do you have any idea what HIPAA is or how it works or how forced birther ghouls enforce the law? Any idea whatsoever?

I think you just like the idea of little girls in peril. I honestly think many of you delight in this mentally. Take it from there because I’m not writing out all the words but I think this excites a lot of you.

Instead of insulting me, why don’t you think about it. It’s my belief that hospitals are doing this to patients deliberately for the ‘cause’

What ‘cause’? Showing the legislature what the laws they passed prohibited? As interpreted by teams of lawyers employed by said hospitals?

From what I see of that law, there was no reason she would have been prevented from having an abortion in Ohio, given her age and risk to her life. The hospital refused, rather than clarify with legislature. The cause meaning turning away legitimate abortion cases to push the idea the state stopped it.

This is not a thing, and there is no mechanism by which to do so, but nice try.

What an abject idiot that PP is. Do they really think doctors call the legislature? Is there some hotline? This is so cringy.

Hospital administrators do, yes

Which legislator do they call? How do they choose?

That’s for them to learn, if they haven’t already. If I’m a hospital administrator, this is something I have posted in my office

Legislatures pass laws, they don't clarify them. It would be up to the executive branch to decide whether or not to prosecute and the judicial branch to decide if such a prosecution was constitutional.

If the laws aren’t clear, do the abortion and let it litigate.

Are you high? Do you want to get convicted for doing your job, then spend the next decade fighting it? Litigation isn’t free. You go ahead and donate $100K to a defense fund for these docs.

+1 The Indiana doctor who was still able to do it legally has been investigated nine ways to Sunday and she didn’t even do anything wrong. Ohio would have taken the original doctor’s license and hung her in a public square.

Having their license pulled is the other threat for doctors and nurses in these forced birther states. That would mean no way to practice medicine while all the lawsuits and investigations were ongoing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the posters blaming the FBI have a way for the federal government to ensure that local law enforcement believes rape reports and takes action— including even collecting the rape kits— i’m all ears.

But testing and taking action on rape kits— heck even 6 days after they’re collected— does nothing at all to protect girls from the consequences of the crime which has already taken place. A rape kit does not detect pregnancy.

So we’re back at the beginning. Why do you think these girls should have to give birth to their rapists babies?

Even the NYT writes articles using words like “almost” in their headlines because they know that rape is an exception.

What are you talking about? There is no rape exception in the Ohio law despite the governor asking for one.

And sadly rape is not an “exception”. There will be at least ten reported pregnancies in girls under 13 in Ohio this year. That doesn’t include the girls whose parents find a way to get them care. It is horrifically common.

In Ohio, she fell under this since the left agrees that 10 years old is too young and will cause bodily harm.

“Abortions beyond this threshold are legal if the provider determines it's a medical emergency and necessary to prevent the pregnant person's death or "serious risk of the substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function."”

Yet she had to leave the state to get an abortion. So your forced birth law is as crappy as everyone is trying to tell you it is while you keep arguing it’s decent. Such a moronic take on the world. Oh, well the law says this, kind of. I guess screw those girls and their lives and future fertility.

Any woke hospital can simply turn people away and blame the law to get media attention.

This is 100% false although I know it’s a talking point that is fed to the pro-life crowd. Doctors are in anguish about being asked to put poorly written laws above their Hippocratic Oath. Pro-lifers just need to admit that they either do not care that women and girls are grievously harmed by these dangerous laws or that they rushed out of the gates way too fast after the fall of Roe and wrote horrible, horrible laws. But blaming the 10-year old rape victim issue on “woke” hospitals is just false and cruel. At no point did the Ohio legislature rush to that poor child’s defense. Instead they went after the doctor who treated her. Your side should be ashamed of how that poor child has been treated by the so-called pro-life crowd.

[Anonymous]

Actually the republican politicians said the victim didn’t exist. They screamed for a weekend on Fox News that it was fake news.
And just left it at that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually the republican politicians said the victim didn’t exist. They screamed for a weekend on Fox News that it was fake news.
And just left it at that.

Democrats hid the identity of the mother until it became clear that the danger was coming from inside the house

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Anonymous wrote:Actually the republican politicians said the victim didn’t exist. They screamed for a weekend on Fox News that it was fake news.
And just left it at that.

Democrats hid the identity of the mother until it became clear that the danger was coming from inside the house

BS No one knew who the mother was because all the reports are confidential. An actual reporter found the case on a local court docket which matched all of the known facts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Actually the republican politicians said the victim didn’t exist. They screamed for a weekend on Fox News that it was fake news.
And just left it at that.

Yup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually the republican politicians said the victim didn’t exist. They screamed for a weekend on Fox News that it was fake news.
And just left it at that.

Democrats hid the identity of the mother until it became clear that the danger was coming from inside the house

Doxxing the mother would dox the identity of the 10 year old victim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually the republican politicians said the victim didn’t exist. They screamed for a weekend on Fox News that it was fake news.
And just left it at that.

Democrats hid the identity of the mother until it became clear that the danger was coming from inside the house

Doxxing the mother would dox the identity of the 10 year old victim.

… when your last argument is doxxing a 10 year old rape victim, you’ve lost the argument.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually the republican politicians said the victim didn’t exist. They screamed for a weekend on Fox News that it was fake news.
And just left it at that.

Democrats hid the identity of the mother until it became clear that the danger was coming from inside the house

Doxxing the mother would dox the identity of the 10 year old victim.

Who needs to be protected from the mother since the rapist was her boyfriend.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actually the republican politicians said the victim didn’t exist. They screamed for a weekend on Fox News that it was fake news.
And just left it at that.

Democrats hid the identity of the mother until it became clear that the danger was coming from inside the house

Since the doctor followed all reporting procedures, as has been exhaustively reported, the mothers identity was known to relevant Ohio officials as soon as the daughter tried to receive care.

But good effort.