CYA and SYA merger?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merger is meant to make stronger not expand. Neither club was a powerhouse on their own. By just expanding 2 mediocre clubs is just making a bigger mediocre club. The only way this works out is if you combine the clubs and contract the teams to 2/3 of the merger and hope the talent buys in. I see a lot of top kids moving on to other more established clubs.

This logic does not make sense. If I play cya or SYA travel and I am a top player and you take the other club’s top players and put them on my team and drop the weaker players, my team will be better. Do the same with the coaches too and the top travel team in each age / gender is better. This gives the club better marketing material as they’ll win more and will be harder to make the top team. Yes, the weaker A team players from the two separate clubs might leave. So?

They want the weaker players to stay, keep paying them, and be OK with being on a lesser team for the glory of playing for FC Valor...

Jesus, some people just want, need to be angry about everything.

Some kids just want to play fairly competitive soccer for a reasonable price. Two nearby clubs combining player pools does make them more competitive overall. These are not clubs with ECNL ambitions and there is plenty of room in the marketplace for community clubs like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merger is meant to make stronger not expand. Neither club was a powerhouse on their own. By just expanding 2 mediocre clubs is just making a bigger mediocre club. The only way this works out is if you combine the clubs and contract the teams to 2/3 of the merger and hope the talent buys in. I see a lot of top kids moving on to other more established clubs.

This logic does not make sense. If I play cya or SYA travel and I am a top player and you take the other club’s top players and put them on my team and drop the weaker players, my team will be better. Do the same with the coaches too and the top travel team in each age / gender is better. This gives the club better marketing material as they’ll win more and will be harder to make the top team. Yes, the weaker A team players from the two separate clubs might leave. So?

But you are being blinded by the fact neither club is a very good club.

The best of 2 average at best clubs still equals an A team full of average kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merger is meant to make stronger not expand. Neither club was a powerhouse on their own. By just expanding 2 mediocre clubs is just making a bigger mediocre club. The only way this works out is if you combine the clubs and contract the teams to 2/3 of the merger and hope the talent buys in. I see a lot of top kids moving on to other more established clubs.

This logic does not make sense. If I play cya or SYA travel and I am a top player and you take the other club’s top players and put them on my team and drop the weaker players, my team will be better. Do the same with the coaches too and the top travel team in each age / gender is better. This gives the club better marketing material as they’ll win more and will be harder to make the top team. Yes, the weaker A team players from the two separate clubs might leave. So?

They want the weaker players to stay, keep paying them, and be OK with being on a lesser team for the glory of playing for FC Valor...

Jesus, some people just want, need to be angry about everything.

Some kids just want to play fairly competitive soccer for a reasonable price. Two nearby clubs combining player pools does make them more competitive overall. These are not clubs with ECNL ambitions and there is plenty of room in the marketplace for community clubs like this.

Agreed 1000% Let it be. This makes a lot of sense for these clubs, and longer term will work well.

[Anonymous]

For the most part, Sya has stronger teams and they can promote a handful of strong cya players. Win/win.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merger is meant to make stronger not expand. Neither club was a powerhouse on their own. By just expanding 2 mediocre clubs is just making a bigger mediocre club. The only way this works out is if you combine the clubs and contract the teams to 2/3 of the merger and hope the talent buys in. I see a lot of top kids moving on to other more established clubs.

This logic does not make sense. If I play cya or SYA travel and I am a top player and you take the other club’s top players and put them on my team and drop the weaker players, my team will be better. Do the same with the coaches too and the top travel team in each age / gender is better. This gives the club better marketing material as they’ll win more and will be harder to make the top team. Yes, the weaker A team players from the two separate clubs might leave. So?

DD plays for a small club on a team that has largely been together since U9. They do very well considering the club size and DD is happy playing with girls she's known for years, so we'll stay. If they ever merged and broke up the team, I think that would be an opportunity to explore other options, not blindly follow the club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merger is meant to make stronger not expand. Neither club was a powerhouse on their own. By just expanding 2 mediocre clubs is just making a bigger mediocre club. The only way this works out is if you combine the clubs and contract the teams to 2/3 of the merger and hope the talent buys in. I see a lot of top kids moving on to other more established clubs.

This logic does not make sense. If I play cya or SYA travel and I am a top player and you take the other club’s top players and put them on my team and drop the weaker players, my team will be better. Do the same with the coaches too and the top travel team in each age / gender is better. This gives the club better marketing material as they’ll win more and will be harder to make the top team. Yes, the weaker A team players from the two separate clubs might leave. So?

They want the weaker players to stay, keep paying them, and be OK with being on a lesser team for the glory of playing for FC Valor...

Jesus, some people just want, need to be angry about everything.

Some kids just want to play fairly competitive soccer for a reasonable price. Two nearby clubs combining player pools does make them more competitive overall. These are not clubs with ECNL ambitions and there is plenty of room in the marketplace for community clubs like this.

They were community clubs this year. They had rec teams and travel teams. The rec teams are staying separate, so I don't think you can consider them community clubs any longer. They don't exist to serve the local kids, they exist to create "elite" teams and let the local kids pay to support those elite teams and play on the 4th team in NCSL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For the most part, Sya has stronger teams and they can promote a handful of strong cya players. Win/win.

why would those handful join SYA teams and not look at Hernon, Loudon, Mclean, FCV... If your team is being broken up anyway and you are having to try out for a new team, why would they both limit themselves and decide to stick with the club that dismantled their current team?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Merger is meant to make stronger not expand. Neither club was a powerhouse on their own. By just expanding 2 mediocre clubs is just making a bigger mediocre club. The only way this works out is if you combine the clubs and contract the teams to 2/3 of the merger and hope the talent buys in. I see a lot of top kids moving on to other more established clubs.

This logic does not make sense. If I play cya or SYA travel and I am a top player and you take the other club’s top players and put them on my team and drop the weaker players, my team will be better. Do the same with the coaches too and the top travel team in each age / gender is better. This gives the club better marketing material as they’ll win more and will be harder to make the top team. Yes, the weaker A team players from the two separate clubs might leave. So?

DD plays for a small club on a team that has largely been together since U9. They do very well considering the club size and DD is happy playing with girls she's known for years, so we'll stay. If they ever merged and broke up the team, I think that would be an opportunity to explore other options, not blindly follow the club.

Why would you explore other options meaning a wholesale change over a slight change?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the most part, Sya has stronger teams and they can promote a handful of strong cya players. Win/win.

why would those handful join SYA teams and not look at Hernon, Loudon, Mclean, FCV... If your team is being broken up anyway and you are having to try out for a new team, why would they both limit themselves and decide to stick with the club that dismantled their current team?

A lot of people don't want to drive all the way from centreville to Mclean or Loudoun for practices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the most part, Sya has stronger teams and they can promote a handful of strong cya players. Win/win.

why would those handful join SYA teams and not look at Hernon, Loudon, Mclean, FCV... If your team is being broken up anyway and you are having to try out for a new team, why would they both limit themselves and decide to stick with the club that dismantled their current team?

A lot of people don't want to drive all the way from centreville to Mclean or Loudoun for practices.

Chantilly to Hernon is a 10 minute drive, and Herndon isn't the reason Larla's team was dismantled

[Anonymous]

Are they going to take SYA's CCL spots or are they going to take Chantilly's VPL slot?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are they going to take SYA's CCL spots or are they going to take Chantilly's VPL slot?

All these questions are answered and available on the website posted earlier in this this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are they going to take SYA's CCL spots or are they going to take Chantilly's VPL slot?

CCL. It’s bigger and stronger league currently

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:07s in SYA are really good. I suspect CYA kids and parents may have to look elsewhere if they are looking for top team

If that happens, what is the point of the merger? If I have a kid at CYA who is actually good, and their team is dissolving, why wouldn’t I look elsewhere - at least McLean isn’t responsible for the kids team falling apart?

Financial is the reason. which can back fire. My opinion based on watching both clubs play at multiple age brackets is SYA is general better. Kids will just leave if they are relegated to third team. Which is going to happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are they going to take SYA's CCL spots or are they going to take Chantilly's VPL slot?

All these questions are answered and available on the website posted earlier in this this thread.

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