Husband Wants Me To Stop Co-Sleeping.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's also clearly established that infants in a parent's bed are more likely to die. One NIH study showed 70% of kids who died of SIDS were bedsharing when they died.

My cousin lost her baby boy this way and screams it from the rooftops not to make the same mistake. Bed sharing isn't just bad for you mentally it's dangerous for the baby. There's a reason pediatricians tell you to put the baby in a bassinet or crib. They've seen what happens when bedsharing goes wrong.

Obviously we're talking young babies here, but OP wants a second kid.



Please cite the study that you mention. SUIDS and SIDS are not the same thing. SIDS is a subcategory of SUID and is a cause assigned to infant deaths that cannot be explained after a thorough case investigation including autopsy, a scene investigation, and review of clinical history. SIDS is also called Cot/crib death. "Although the cause is unknown, it appears that SIDS might be associated with defects in the portion of an infant's brain that controls breathing and arousal from sleep."

There is absolutely a way to bedshare safely, the problem is that most people start it (on purpose or through exhaustion) without first determining how to do it safely. There is a safe sleep 7 - must be breastfeeding exclusively,, no pillows or duvets, bed away from the wall, no blankets above the hips, no smoking of any kind by either parent, sober parents, firm mattress (no memory foam), healthy FULL TERM with no weight issues, and no swaddling.

No wires including cell phone chargers and bed should be low-profile or on the floor. Baby should be on their back with mom next to them. Baby is not supposed to be between mom and dad. You can also only safely cosleep in a bed. Not a recliner or couch.

Furthermore, many people dresses babies for bedsharing as they woulld if the baby were in a crib by themselves. Babies who bedshare do not need sleeping bags or fleece pajamas. Rooms should be cool for sleeping 65-72 is ideal. No jewelry, mom should wear tight-fitted clothing and long hair should be pulled back completely.


So many people will say they never bedshare but the AAP even admits that this occurs more than expected:

"Parent-infant bed-sharing for all or part of sleep duration is common. In 1 national survey for the period 2001–2010, 46% of parents responded that they had shared a bed with their infant (8 months or younger) at some point in the preceding 2 weeks, and 13.5% reported that they usually bed-shared.174 In another national survey, any bed-sharing was reported by 42% of mothers at 2 weeks of infant age and 27% of mothers at 12 months of infant age.175 In a third study, almost 60% of mothers of infants from birth to 12 months of age reported bed-sharing at least once.176 The rate of routine bed-sharing is higher among some racial/ethnic groups, including black, Hispanic, and American Indian/Alaska Native parents/infants.20,22,174 There are often cultural and personal reasons why parents choose to bed-share, including convenience for feeding (breast or formula), comforting a fussy or sick infant, helping the infant and/or mother sleep better, bonding and attachment, and because it is a family tradition.175,177 In addition, many parents may believe that their own vigilance is the only way that they can keep their infant safe and that the close proximity of bed-sharing allows them to maintain vigilance, even while sleeping.178 Some parents will use bed-sharing specifically as a safety strategy if the infant sleeps in the prone position23,178 or there is concern about environmental dangers, such as vermin or stray gunfire."

Part of the issues with many studies is the bedsharing includes sharing the same surface with an adult, which includes couch, recliner, etc.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How about this? DH has high anxiety and only watching Netflix in his study, by himself, calms him down. We haven't slept in the same bed for a year. What should I do?


Well for starters you should create your own thread in the relationship forum.

But if you want to lean with the majority of this thread, DH should watch TV it makes him happy, it's wrong of you to infringe upon his happiness. You can bond with him at another time.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP lives here. Sounds like she is American born and raised. Who cares what is the norm somewhere else in the world? It is not just about sex, talking at night, having the plans for the next day, falling asleep, having a partner. Not to mention htat OP admitted that she is doing this for herself.
She needs to ask herself why is she using her 1 year old for emotional support?


Why can’t they do all of that and then go to sleep in separate beds? Personally, when I sleep I sleep... it makes zero difference who is next to me, but if it gives comfort to my young kids, I am very happy to do it. DH is 46... he can sleep on his own

Except in her case, it gives comfort to her, she clearly posted that her son is fine on his own. Plus she goes to bed at 8 pm! To her dh, she is like a nanny to his child, not a wife. You must have an unhappy marraige if you are even married. Happily married people like to fall sleep and go to bed together. Heck, unhappily married people like to go to bed together and hope to improve their relationship, even with talking things out. It is not just about sex, it is companionship.
Now, if OP said her son has health issues, screams at night, and needs to be soothed, sure, but she openly said she is anxious about being apart from her child. Do you think that small tiny detail is irrelevant? SHe is anxious to be apart, even in the same house from her kid. That is not normal, that indicates more than just sleeping apart issues.


Yes, and it's not healthy for the child.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's also clearly established that infants in a parent's bed are more likely to die. One NIH study showed 70% of kids who died of SIDS were bedsharing when they died.

My cousin lost her baby boy this way and screams it from the rooftops not to make the same mistake. Bed sharing isn't just bad for you mentally it's dangerous for the baby. There's a reason pediatricians tell you to put the baby in a bassinet or crib. They've seen what happens when bedsharing goes wrong.

Obviously we're talking young babies here, but OP wants a second kid.



Please cite the study that you mention. SUIDS and SIDS are not the same thing. SIDS is a subcategory of SUID and is a cause assigned to infant deaths that cannot be explained after a thorough case investigation including autopsy, a scene investigation, and review of clinical history. SIDS is also called Cot/crib death. "Although the cause is unknown, it appears that SIDS might be associated with defects in the portion of an infant's brain that controls breathing and arousal from sleep."

There is absolutely a way to bedshare safely, the problem is that most people start it (on purpose or through exhaustion) without first determining how to do it safely. There is a safe sleep 7 - must be breastfeeding exclusively,, no pillows or duvets, bed away from the wall, no blankets above the hips, no smoking of any kind by either parent, sober parents, firm mattress (no memory foam), healthy FULL TERM with no weight issues, and no swaddling.

No wires including cell phone chargers and bed should be low-profile or on the floor. Baby should be on their back with mom next to them. Baby is not supposed to be between mom and dad. You can also only safely cosleep in a bed. Not a recliner or couch.

Furthermore, many people dresses babies for bedsharing as they woulld if the baby were in a crib by themselves. Babies who bedshare do not need sleeping bags or fleece pajamas. Rooms should be cool for sleeping 65-72 is ideal. No jewelry, mom should wear tight-fitted clothing and long hair should be pulled back completely.


So many people will say they never bedshare but the AAP even admits that this occurs more than expected:

"Parent-infant bed-sharing for all or part of sleep duration is common. In 1 national survey for the period 2001–2010, 46% of parents responded that they had shared a bed with their infant (8 months or younger) at some point in the preceding 2 weeks, and 13.5% reported that they usually bed-shared.174 In another national survey, any bed-sharing was reported by 42% of mothers at 2 weeks of infant age and 27% of mothers at 12 months of infant age.175 In a third study, almost 60% of mothers of infants from birth to 12 months of age reported bed-sharing at least once.176 The rate of routine bed-sharing is higher among some racial/ethnic groups, including black, Hispanic, and American Indian/Alaska Native parents/infants.20,22,174 There are often cultural and personal reasons why parents choose to bed-share, including convenience for feeding (breast or formula), comforting a fussy or sick infant, helping the infant and/or mother sleep better, bonding and attachment, and because it is a family tradition.175,177 In addition, many parents may believe that their own vigilance is the only way that they can keep their infant safe and that the close proximity of bed-sharing allows them to maintain vigilance, even while sleeping.178 Some parents will use bed-sharing specifically as a safety strategy if the infant sleeps in the prone position23,178 or there is concern about environmental dangers, such as vermin or stray gunfire."

Part of the issues with many studies is the bedsharing includes sharing the same surface with an adult, which includes couch, recliner, etc.



You need to get a life.
Anonymous
Her 1 year old is her emotional blanket.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about this? DH has high anxiety and only watching Netflix in his study, by himself, calms him down. We haven't slept in the same bed for a year. What should I do?


Well for starters you should create your own thread in the relationship forum.

But if you want to lean with the majority of this thread, DH should watch TV it makes him happy, it's wrong of you to infringe upon his happiness. You can bond with him at another time.


I invented it! For purposes of having dcum tear down the hubby.
Anonymous
The fact that her husband feels like a sperm donor says all you need to know
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP lives here. Sounds like she is American born and raised. Who cares what is the norm somewhere else in the world? It is not just about sex, talking at night, having the plans for the next day, falling asleep, having a partner. Not to mention htat OP admitted that she is doing this for herself.
She needs to ask herself why is she using her 1 year old for emotional support?


Why can’t they do all of that and then go to sleep in separate beds? Personally, when I sleep I sleep... it makes zero difference who is next to me, but if it gives comfort to my young kids, I am very happy to do it. DH is 46... he can sleep on his own


In our case, kids go to bed at 8 and DH and I at 10:30/11:30. We spend 3 hours eating dinner, talking, having sex and watching shows. When we are both about to fall asleep, one of us moves to the baby’s bedroom... I have no clue what is weird or bad about that....

Why? Not judging, but why does one of you go to baby's bedroom?


Because our son wakes up at night and needs a pacifier or a little milk. Being next to him is just much more convenient. My other kids did this until 2, then they started finding their pacifier or water on their own
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's also clearly established that infants in a parent's bed are more likely to die. One NIH study showed 70% of kids who died of SIDS were bedsharing when they died.

My cousin lost her baby boy this way and screams it from the rooftops not to make the same mistake. Bed sharing isn't just bad for you mentally it's dangerous for the baby. There's a reason pediatricians tell you to put the baby in a bassinet or crib. They've seen what happens when bedsharing goes wrong.

Obviously we're talking young babies here, but OP wants a second kid.



Please cite the study that you mention. SUIDS and SIDS are not the same thing. SIDS is a subcategory of SUID and is a cause assigned to infant deaths that cannot be explained after a thorough case investigation including autopsy, a scene investigation, and review of clinical history. SIDS is also called Cot/crib death. "Although the cause is unknown, it appears that SIDS might be associated with defects in the portion of an infant's brain that controls breathing and arousal from sleep."

There is absolutely a way to bedshare safely, the problem is that most people start it (on purpose or through exhaustion) without first determining how to do it safely. There is a safe sleep 7 - must be breastfeeding exclusively,, no pillows or duvets, bed away from the wall, no blankets above the hips, no smoking of any kind by either parent, sober parents, firm mattress (no memory foam), healthy FULL TERM with no weight issues, and no swaddling.

No wires including cell phone chargers and bed should be low-profile or on the floor. Baby should be on their back with mom next to them. Baby is not supposed to be between mom and dad. You can also only safely cosleep in a bed. Not a recliner or couch.

Furthermore, many people dresses babies for bedsharing as they woulld if the baby were in a crib by themselves. Babies who bedshare do not need sleeping bags or fleece pajamas. Rooms should be cool for sleeping 65-72 is ideal. No jewelry, mom should wear tight-fitted clothing and long hair should be pulled back completely.


So many people will say they never bedshare but the AAP even admits that this occurs more than expected:

"Parent-infant bed-sharing for all or part of sleep duration is common. In 1 national survey for the period 2001–2010, 46% of parents responded that they had shared a bed with their infant (8 months or younger) at some point in the preceding 2 weeks, and 13.5% reported that they usually bed-shared.174 In another national survey, any bed-sharing was reported by 42% of mothers at 2 weeks of infant age and 27% of mothers at 12 months of infant age.175 In a third study, almost 60% of mothers of infants from birth to 12 months of age reported bed-sharing at least once.176 The rate of routine bed-sharing is higher among some racial/ethnic groups, including black, Hispanic, and American Indian/Alaska Native parents/infants.20,22,174 There are often cultural and personal reasons why parents choose to bed-share, including convenience for feeding (breast or formula), comforting a fussy or sick infant, helping the infant and/or mother sleep better, bonding and attachment, and because it is a family tradition.175,177 In addition, many parents may believe that their own vigilance is the only way that they can keep their infant safe and that the close proximity of bed-sharing allows them to maintain vigilance, even while sleeping.178 Some parents will use bed-sharing specifically as a safety strategy if the infant sleeps in the prone position23,178 or there is concern about environmental dangers, such as vermin or stray gunfire."

Part of the issues with many studies is the bedsharing includes sharing the same surface with an adult, which includes couch, recliner, etc.



You need to get a life.


And people need to stop quoting false facts as truths to fear monger.
Anonymous
No way they have another kid. Her dh isn't an idiot, he knows this is going to happen again and it will be even worse with 2 kids. Op, get some therapy to deal with your issues. If you don't, you'll either end up with just 1 kid or 2 kids and divorced.

It's great your husband has been understanding, but you've been incredibly selfish and that understanding does not last forever.
Anonymous
If you really want another kid, gotta stop the co sleeping with this one. He is over 1 yr old and a great sleeper. So I think your husband is being reasonable. Do it now, it will be much easier to transition the baby at this age then at 18 mos. Just do it. It will be harder the longer you wait.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP lives here. Sounds like she is American born and raised. Who cares what is the norm somewhere else in the world? It is not just about sex, talking at night, having the plans for the next day, falling asleep, having a partner. Not to mention htat OP admitted that she is doing this for herself.
She needs to ask herself why is she using her 1 year old for emotional support?


Why can’t they do all of that and then go to sleep in separate beds? Personally, when I sleep I sleep... it makes zero difference who is next to me, but if it gives comfort to my young kids, I am very happy to do it. DH is 46... he can sleep on his own


In our case, kids go to bed at 8 and DH and I at 10:30/11:30. We spend 3 hours eating dinner, talking, having sex and watching shows. When we are both about to fall asleep, one of us moves to the baby’s bedroom... I have no clue what is weird or bad about that....

Why? Not judging, but why does one of you go to baby's bedroom?


Because our son wakes up at night and needs a pacifier or a little milk. Being next to him is just much more convenient. My other kids did this until 2, then they started finding their pacifier or water on their own


This is a rookie move. I promise you if you weren't in there, they would find the pacis on their own. Children have done this for eons without their parents. Enterprising parents buy several of the same pacis and sprinkle them around the bed.

All that being said, the different between you and OP is that it works for you and your DH. It's not working for OP and her DH. His gripe is legit, and OP needs to deal with her issues. he is absolutely right to not have another baby with her right now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Her 1 year old is her emotional blanket.


Exactly.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:OP lives here. Sounds like she is American born and raised. Who cares what is the norm somewhere else in the world? It is not just about sex, talking at night, having the plans for the next day, falling asleep, having a partner. Not to mention htat OP admitted that she is doing this for herself.
She needs to ask herself why is she using her 1 year old for emotional support?


Why can’t they do all of that and then go to sleep in separate beds? Personally, when I sleep I sleep... it makes zero difference who is next to me, but if it gives comfort to my young kids, I am very happy to do it. DH is 46... he can sleep on his own


In our case, kids go to bed at 8 and DH and I at 10:30/11:30. We spend 3 hours eating dinner, talking, having sex and watching shows. When we are both about to fall asleep, one of us moves to the baby’s bedroom... I have no clue what is weird or bad about that....

Why? Not judging, but why does one of you go to baby's bedroom?


Because our son wakes up at night and needs a pacifier or a little milk. Being next to him is just much more convenient. My other kids did this until 2, then they started finding their pacifier or water on their own


This is a rookie move. I promise you if you weren't in there, they would find the pacis on their own. Children have done this for eons without their parents. Enterprising parents buy several of the same pacis and sprinkle them around the bed.

All that being said, the different between you and OP is that it works for you and your DH. It's not working for OP and her DH. His gripe is legit, and OP needs to deal with her issues. he is absolutely right to not have another baby with her right now
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This part, but people want to gloss over this to promote their agenda.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP lives here. Sounds like she is American born and raised. Who cares what is the norm somewhere else in the world? It is not just about sex, talking at night, having the plans for the next day, falling asleep, having a partner. Not to mention htat OP admitted that she is doing this for herself.
She needs to ask herself why is she using her 1 year old for emotional support?


Why can’t they do all of that and then go to sleep in separate beds? Personally, when I sleep I sleep... it makes zero difference who is next to me, but if it gives comfort to my young kids, I am very happy to do it. DH is 46... he can sleep on his own


In our case, kids go to bed at 8 and DH and I at 10:30/11:30. We spend 3 hours eating dinner, talking, having sex and watching shows. When we are both about to fall asleep, one of us moves to the baby’s bedroom... I have no clue what is weird or bad about that....

Why? Not judging, but why does one of you go to baby's bedroom?


Because our son wakes up at night and needs a pacifier or a little milk. Being next to him is just much more convenient. My other kids did this until 2, then they started finding their pacifier or water on their own


This is a rookie move. I promise you if you weren't in there, they would find the pacis on their own. Children have done this for eons without their parents. Enterprising parents buy several of the same pacis and sprinkle them around the bed.

All that being said, the different between you and OP is that it works for you and your DH. It's not working for OP and her DH. His gripe is legit, and OP needs to deal with her issues. he is absolutely right to not have another baby with her right now
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This part, but people want to gloss over this to promote their agenda.



Not really. I think OP can have it all if she wants to. She needs to spend time with her husband after the baby goes to bed and join the baby after 10 or so. I do agree though that she should stop cosleeping before the new baby arrives.

I don’t agree with the “rule” that husband and wife HAVE to sleep together. That’s what some couple want and it’s not good for others. My parents slept in separate beds since for everyone because my dads snores. They have a great marriage. Of course they need to spend time together ALONE, but it does not need to be from 9pm to 6am. DH and I take vacation every year alone. We used to go out once a week (pre-Covid), now we exercise together every day and play tennis often. And we never sleep in the same bed.
So I have a problem with the “rule”, but I support OP’s DH if all he wants is more alone time with his wife...
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