50% of all U.S. immigrants on welfare program(s)

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care OP? What have they done to you? Do you get extra money for every child who goes to bed hungry?

Over populated my child's elementary school and half her class is taught in Spanish. Learn to f g speak English for starters and it is not the United States job to feed these children. You come here at least be able to provide for your children.

By all means, move to West Virginia or Alabama if you want your kids to only be around white kids in school. I have some bad news for you about the number of white kids receiving public assistance in those areas, though...

That’s not true though - you could move to Hershey pa, for example, and the schools there are really white (with some Asians but they are all rich). NAMs are barely present and due to the medical center, a number of kids have ivy parents

Surpringly there are a lot less Asians than I thought there would be given the proximity to a medical school/research hospitals

PP here. My mom is from Central PA, and still has a lot of family there. You couldn't pay me enough to move to that part of the country. There are a couple nice areas, but the opioid issue is out of control. I think Dauphin County had the highest number of overdose deaths last year, although that may have been partly because a lot of people were brought in to the major hospitals from smaller surrounding towns. One of my cousin's kids died of an overdose; before he died, when there was a chance he might pull through, the doctor straight-up told her that *if* he survived, they'd need to move out of the area or he'd be right back on drugs as soon as he got out of rehab. Her kids all went to a private school in that area that's highly regarded, fwiw.

Loved central pa. Would move back in a second. I think people like you belong in an anonymous city like dc.

I’m also from central PA ( but not Centralia, LOL). I don’t beleive anybody would move there “in a second.” Makes me doubt this post. State College is the only decent place to live in the whole area.

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Anonymous wrote:My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits. You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.

My hair stylist told me she brought her mother over from Vietnam years ago, and now Mama (who never worked a day here nor learned the language) enjoys a level of medical care that I cannot afford for myself. The stylist was bragging how her mother needs monthly treatments that cost $1000, and she gets them for free (!), but it turned out that I have the same condition - and the same doctor!! - and have to pay a fortune for them. The stylist seemed VERY embarrassed that her immigrant mother got better care than a citizen who has paid income tax for 30 years, and of a sudden she got very quiet.

There is something very wrong with a system that provides better benefits for non-productive immigrants than tax-contributing citizens.

She may have been quiet on the outside, but inside she was pleased and actually laughing about how easy it is to take advantage of the idiotic American system.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits. You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.

My hair stylist told me she brought her mother over from Vietnam years ago, and now Mama (who never worked a day here nor learned the language) enjoys a level of medical care that I cannot afford for myself. The stylist was bragging how her mother needs monthly treatments that cost $1000, and she gets them for free (!), but it turned out that I have the same condition - and the same doctor!! - and have to pay a fortune for them. The stylist seemed VERY embarrassed that her immigrant mother got better care than a citizen who has paid income tax for 30 years, and of a sudden she got very quiet.

There is something very wrong with a system that provides better benefits for non-productive immigrants than tax-contributing citizens.

She may have been quiet on the outside, but inside she was pleased and actually laughing about how easy it is to take advantage of the idiotic American system.

That's why Trump won. America is waking up to the idiocy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits. You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.

My hair stylist told me she brought her mother over from Vietnam years ago, and now Mama (who never worked a day here nor learned the language) enjoys a level of medical care that I cannot afford for myself. The stylist was bragging how her mother needs monthly treatments that cost $1000, and she gets them for free (!), but it turned out that I have the same condition - and the same doctor!! - and have to pay a fortune for them. The stylist seemed VERY embarrassed that her immigrant mother got better care than a citizen who has paid income tax for 30 years, and of a sudden she got very quiet.

There is something very wrong with a system that provides better benefits for non-productive immigrants than tax-contributing citizens.

She may have been quiet on the outside, but inside she was pleased and actually laughing about how easy it is to take advantage of the idiotic American system.

People don't seem to understand that America and (Northern) Europe are high trust cultures. Most of the recent immigrants to both the US and Europe are from low trust cultures, and think nothing of taking advantage of others unless they are part of their particular ingroup as this is to be expected in their society.

Outside of Japan and to a lesser degree Korea, most Asian cultures (China in particular) are low trust.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits. You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.

My hair stylist told me she brought her mother over from Vietnam years ago, and now Mama (who never worked a day here nor learned the language) enjoys a level of medical care that I cannot afford for myself. The stylist was bragging how her mother needs monthly treatments that cost $1000, and she gets them for free (!), but it turned out that I have the same condition - and the same doctor!! - and have to pay a fortune for them. The stylist seemed VERY embarrassed that her immigrant mother got better care than a citizen who has paid income tax for 30 years, and of a sudden she got very quiet.

There is something very wrong with a system that provides better benefits for non-productive immigrants than tax-contributing citizens.

She may have been quiet on the outside, but inside she was pleased and actually laughing about how easy it is to take advantage of the idiotic American system.

People don't seem to understand that America and (Northern) Europe are high trust cultures. Most of the recent immigrants to both the US and Europe are from low trust cultures, and think nothing of taking advantage of others unless they are part of their particular ingroup as this is to be expected in their society.

Outside of Japan and to a lesser degree Korea, most Asian cultures (China in particular) are low trust.

DP.. you know that there are "real" Americans who also game the system to collect welfare, and rich Americans hide their money in offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes. How many real Americans use a different addresses to send their kids to better schools? I think poor people everywhere do what they have to do to get more, and rich people everywhere also do shady things to keep more of their money.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care OP? What have they done to you? Do you get extra money for every child who goes to bed hungry?

Over populated my child's elementary school and half her class is taught in Spanish. Learn to f g speak English for starters and it is not the United States job to feed these children. You come here at least be able to provide for your children.

By all means, move to West Virginia or Alabama if you want your kids to only be around white kids in school. I have some bad news for you about the number of white kids receiving public assistance in those areas, though...

That’s not true though - you could move to Hershey pa, for example, and the schools there are really white (with some Asians but they are all rich). NAMs are barely present and due to the medical center, a number of kids have ivy parents

Surpringly there are a lot less Asians than I thought there would be given the proximity to a medical school/research hospitals

PP here. My mom is from Central PA, and still has a lot of family there. You couldn't pay me enough to move to that part of the country. There are a couple nice areas, but the opioid issue is out of control. I think Dauphin County had the highest number of overdose deaths last year, although that may have been partly because a lot of people were brought in to the major hospitals from smaller surrounding towns. One of my cousin's kids died of an overdose; before he died, when there was a chance he might pull through, the doctor straight-up told her that *if* he survived, they'd need to move out of the area or he'd be right back on drugs as soon as he got out of rehab. Her kids all went to a private school in that area that's highly regarded, fwiw.

Loved central pa. Would move back in a second. I think people like you belong in an anonymous city like dc.

What’s stopping you from moving back? Also, what did you love about that place?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits. You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.

My hair stylist told me she brought her mother over from Vietnam years ago, and now Mama (who never worked a day here nor learned the language) enjoys a level of medical care that I cannot afford for myself. The stylist was bragging how her mother needs monthly treatments that cost $1000, and she gets them for free (!), but it turned out that I have the same condition - and the same doctor!! - and have to pay a fortune for them. The stylist seemed VERY embarrassed that her immigrant mother got better care than a citizen who has paid income tax for 30 years, and of a sudden she got very quiet.

There is something very wrong with a system that provides better benefits for non-productive immigrants than tax-contributing citizens.

She may have been quiet on the outside, but inside she was pleased and actually laughing about how easy it is to take advantage of the idiotic American system.

People don't seem to understand that America and (Northern) Europe are high trust cultures. Most of the recent immigrants to both the US and Europe are from low trust cultures, and think nothing of taking advantage of others unless they are part of their particular ingroup as this is to be expected in their society.

Outside of Japan and to a lesser degree Korea, most Asian cultures (China in particular) are low trust.

DP.. you know that there are "real" Americans who also game the system to collect welfare, and rich Americans hide their money in offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes. How many real Americans use a different addresses to send their kids to better schools? I think poor people everywhere do what they have to do to get more, and rich people everywhere also do shady things to keep more of their money.

Sure, that happens, but what percentage of Americans find such things permissible?

What about many other places in the world where people don't feel like they can trust their government, institutions let alone their neighbors? When you have low social trust it is hard to build community and stable economic conditions unless you have an authoritarian state. This leads to a lot of corruption and favor trading which is normal in the rest of the world to a much higher degree than in "western" countries (I've spent a few years living/working in Asia and seen this sort of thing).

I'd argue that much of the success in Europe, the US and Japan has been due to prolonged periods of high social trust, which allows for functional institutions, peace and stability leading to high standards of living. That is why people want to come to those places to live.

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My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits. You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.


My hair stylist told me she brought her mother over from Vietnam years ago, and now Mama (who never worked a day here nor learned the language) enjoys a level of medical care that I cannot afford for myself. The stylist was bragging how her mother needs monthly treatments that cost $1000, and she gets them for free (!), but it turned out that I have the same condition - and the same doctor!! - and have to pay a fortune for them. The stylist seemed VERY embarrassed that her immigrant mother got better care than a citizen who has paid income tax for 30 years, and of a sudden she got very quiet.

There is something very wrong with a system that provides better benefits for non-productive immigrants than tax-contributing citizens.



She may have been quiet on the outside, but inside she was pleased and actually laughing about how easy it is to take advantage of the idiotic American system.



People don't seem to understand that America and (Northern) Europe are high trust cultures. Most of the recent immigrants to both the US and Europe are from low trust cultures, and think nothing of taking advantage of others unless they are part of their particular ingroup as this is to be expected in their society.

Outside of Japan and to a lesser degree Korea, most Asian cultures (China in particular) are low trust.

I am an asian immigrant and this comment is spot on. I know friends who are trying to game the system and put their parents on medicare. I dont understand how immigrants parents are eligible for Medicare .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits. You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.


My hair stylist told me she brought her mother over from Vietnam years ago, and now Mama (who never worked a day here nor learned the language) enjoys a level of medical care that I cannot afford for myself. The stylist was bragging how her mother needs monthly treatments that cost $1000, and she gets them for free (!), but it turned out that I have the same condition - and the same doctor!! - and have to pay a fortune for them. The stylist seemed VERY embarrassed that her immigrant mother got better care than a citizen who has paid income tax for 30 years, and of a sudden she got very quiet.

There is something very wrong with a system that provides better benefits for non-productive immigrants than tax-contributing citizens.



She may have been quiet on the outside, but inside she was pleased and actually laughing about how easy it is to take advantage of the idiotic American system.



People don't seem to understand that America and (Northern) Europe are high trust cultures. Most of the recent immigrants to both the US and Europe are from low trust cultures, and think nothing of taking advantage of others unless they are part of their particular ingroup as this is to be expected in their society.

Outside of Japan and to a lesser degree Korea, most Asian cultures (China in particular) are low trust.

I am an asian immigrant and this comment is spot on. I know friends who are trying to game the system and put their parents on medicare. I dont understand how immigrants parents are eligible for Medicare .

You're probably aware of the issue of being a "public charge" when you go through the immigration system, and if you act as a guaranteeor how long you have that obligation when sponsoring a relative.

There are quite a few exceptions to being a "public charge".

https://www.uscis.gov/news/fact-sheets/public-charge-fact-sheet

"public charge" is basicically restricted to SSI and TANF, those things that are cash payments.

SNAP, medicaid, chip, energy assistance housing and the like are all things you can qualify for, but it depends on the state. VA for example is more strict than MD when it comes to the time period before you are eligible.

Immigrant parents aren't eligible for medicare, just medicaid, unless they work their 40 quarters first, but people set up ways of paying for that as well (you need to pay about $650 a year in payroll taxes to qualify for 4 quarters).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits. You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.

My hair stylist told me she brought her mother over from Vietnam years ago, and now Mama (who never worked a day here nor learned the language) enjoys a level of medical care that I cannot afford for myself. The stylist was bragging how her mother needs monthly treatments that cost $1000, and she gets them for free (!), but it turned out that I have the same condition - and the same doctor!! - and have to pay a fortune for them. The stylist seemed VERY embarrassed that her immigrant mother got better care than a citizen who has paid income tax for 30 years, and of a sudden she got very quiet.

There is something very wrong with a system that provides better benefits for non-productive immigrants than tax-contributing citizens.

She may have been quiet on the outside, but inside she was pleased and actually laughing about how easy it is to take advantage of the idiotic American system.

People don't seem to understand that America and (Northern) Europe are high trust cultures. Most of the recent immigrants to both the US and Europe are from low trust cultures, and think nothing of taking advantage of others unless they are part of their particular ingroup as this is to be expected in their society.

Outside of Japan and to a lesser degree Korea, most Asian cultures (China in particular) are low trust.

This is very true. Unfortunately, the more the systems are abused, the more once-honest people grow resentful and throw in the towel of civil behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits. You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.


My hair stylist told me she brought her mother over from Vietnam years ago, and now Mama (who never worked a day here nor learned the language) enjoys a level of medical care that I cannot afford for myself. The stylist was bragging how her mother needs monthly treatments that cost $1000, and she gets them for free (!), but it turned out that I have the same condition - and the same doctor!! - and have to pay a fortune for them. The stylist seemed VERY embarrassed that her immigrant mother got better care than a citizen who has paid income tax for 30 years, and of a sudden she got very quiet.

There is something very wrong with a system that provides better benefits for non-productive immigrants than tax-contributing citizens.



She may have been quiet on the outside, but inside she was pleased and actually laughing about how easy it is to take advantage of the idiotic American system.



People don't seem to understand that America and (Northern) Europe are high trust cultures. Most of the recent immigrants to both the US and Europe are from low trust cultures, and think nothing of taking advantage of others unless they are part of their particular ingroup as this is to be expected in their society.

Outside of Japan and to a lesser degree Korea, most Asian cultures (China in particular) are low trust.




I am an asian immigrant and this comment is spot on. I know friends who are trying to game the system and put their parents on medicare. I dont understand how immigrants parents are eligible for Medicare .



You're probably aware of the issue of being a "public charge" when you go through the immigration system, and if you act as a guaranteeor how long you have that obligation when sponsoring a relative.

There are quite a few exceptions to being a "public charge".

https://www.uscis.gov/news/fact-sheets/public-charge-fact-sheet

"public charge" is basicically restricted to SSI and TANF, those things that are cash payments.

SNAP, medicaid, chip, energy assistance housing and the like are all things you can qualify for, but it depends on the state. VA for example is more strict than MD when it comes to the time period before you are eligible.

Immigrant parents aren't eligible for medicare, just medicaid, unless they work their 40 quarters first, but people set up ways of paying for that as well (you need to pay about $650 a year in payroll taxes to qualify for 4 quarters).
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I know an Indian couple who is running a gas station convenience store. They have their dad running the counter and their mom is also on the payroll but does not actually work there. She provides free childcare at home. Anyways both grandparents make it look like they have been working for upto 4 quarters so that they get free medicare for life.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do you care OP? What have they done to you? Do you get extra money for every child who goes to bed hungry?

Over populated my child's elementary school and half her class is taught in Spanish. Learn to f g speak English for starters and it is not the United States job to feed these children. You come here at least be able to provide for your children.

By all means, move to West Virginia or Alabama if you want your kids to only be around white kids in school. I have some bad news for you about the number of white kids receiving public assistance in those areas, though...

That’s not true though - you could move to Hershey pa, for example, and the schools there are really white (with some Asians but they are all rich). NAMs are barely present and due to the medical center, a number of kids have ivy parents

Surpringly there are a lot less Asians than I thought there would be given the proximity to a medical school/research hospitals

PP here. My mom is from Central PA, and still has a lot of family there. You couldn't pay me enough to move to that part of the country. There are a couple nice areas, but the opioid issue is out of control. I think Dauphin County had the highest number of overdose deaths last year, although that may have been partly because a lot of people were brought in to the major hospitals from smaller surrounding towns. One of my cousin's kids died of an overdose; before he died, when there was a chance he might pull through, the doctor straight-up told her that *if* he survived, they'd need to move out of the area or he'd be right back on drugs as soon as he got out of rehab. Her kids all went to a private school in that area that's highly regarded, fwiw.

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Loved central pa. Would move back in a second. I think people like you belong in an anonymous city like dc.

What’s stopping you from moving back? Also, what did you love about that place?

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Nothing like the Foreign IMF’ers who get tax free bloated income and pension, forced retirement at 62 and then “sign up to do a PhD over the next 30 years to continue avoiding US income taxes (if staying here) while drawing their pensions. The southeast Asians do it the most.

The lawless, corrupt, “I’m out to get mine” mentality of these cultures never stops. They rationalize their misbehavior constantly, and like to show off their scams.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing like the Foreign IMF’ers who get tax free bloated income and pension, forced retirement at 62 and then “sign up to do a PhD over the next 30 years to continue avoiding US income taxes (if staying here) while drawing their pensions. The southeast Asians do it the most.

The lawless, corrupt, “I’m out to get mine” mentality of these cultures never stops. They rationalize their misbehavior constantly, and like to show off their scams.

Such behavior makes total sense in the context of their home culture because everyone else is incentivized to do the same. It makes westerners look like rubes in their eyes.

Probably was the same to some degree for the southern Italians when they came to these shores.

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“I’m also from central PA ( but not Centralia, LOL). I don’t beleive anybody would move there “in a second.” Makes me doubt this post.”

New PP here. Not sure why you say that. I miss my home town in central PA just outside of Harrisburg and love going back to visit my folks there. If I had a job I could do there I would have happily moved back.