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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits.  You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.[/quote]
My hair stylist told me she brought her mother over from Vietnam years ago, and now Mama (who never worked a day here nor learned the language) enjoys a level of medical care that I cannot afford for myself. The stylist was bragging how her mother needs monthly treatments that cost $1000, and she gets them for free (!), but it turned out that I have the same condition - and the same doctor!! - and have to pay a fortune for them. The stylist seemed VERY embarrassed that her immigrant mother got better care than a citizen who has paid income tax for 30 years, and of a sudden she got very quiet.

There is something very wrong with a system that provides better benefits for non-productive immigrants than tax-contributing citizens.[/quote]

She may have been quiet on the outside, but inside she was pleased and actually laughing about how easy it is to take advantage of the idiotic American system. [/quote]

People don't seem to understand that America and (Northern) Europe are high trust cultures.  Most of the recent immigrants to both the US and Europe are from low trust cultures, and think nothing of taking advantage of others unless they are part of their particular ingroup as this is to be expected in their society.

Outside of Japan and to a lesser degree Korea, most Asian cultures (China in particular) are low trust.[/quote]
DP.. you know that there are "real" Americans who also game the system to collect welfare, and rich Americans hide their money in offshore accounts to avoid paying taxes.  How many real Americans use a different addresses to send their kids to better schools?  I think poor people everywhere do what they have to do to get more, and rich people everywhere also do shady things to keep more of their money.[/quote]

Sure, that happens, but what percentage of Americans find such things permissible?

What about many other places in the world where people don't feel like they can trust their government, institutions let alone their neighbors?  When you have low social trust it is hard to build community and stable economic conditions unless you have an authoritarian state. This leads to a lot of corruption and favor trading which is normal in the rest of the world to a much higher degree than in "western" countries (I've spent a few years living/working in Asia and seen this sort of thing).

I'd argue that much of the success in Europe, the US and Japan has been due to prolonged periods of high social trust, which allows for functional institutions, peace and stability leading to high standards of living.  That is why people want to come to those places to live.[/quote]

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