50% of all U.S. immigrants on welfare program(s)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

You chose your plan, they are not all the same. More importantly, You may be having a migraine. A family member of mine had weird flashing in the eyes and it ended up being caused by migraines. You might want to see an actual doctor, instead of Dr. Google before reaching a diagnosis, much less whether your plan will cover it.

All of these plans are missing specialists. How is a person supposed to figure out which specialist they might need in advance? There are so many possible conditions one could get.

But that's a good idea about seeing my general doctor first. The only thing is....I thought migraines were excruciating. Other than the weird flashing, I had no pain and no headache.

Anyway, first thing tomorrow I'm calling my primary care doctor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

Medical insurance policies including catastrophic, typically don't cover vision or dental, and that's been the case whether pre-ACA or after ACA. You typically need a separate vision and dental plan and it's been like that for a very very long time. It has nothing to do with ACA.

The GOP proposal would leave you to pay for your vision issue out of pocket, however much that is. Hope you have enough in savings because that's their plan for you. Good luck and sorry for your misfortune.

Thanks for the well wishes.

But you're wrong about the vision. Vision isn't covered, true - but that's stuff like glasses, refractions, or optional things like Lasik. Retinal problems are considered medical and would have been covered pre ACA. Liberals don't want to admit it, but the Obamacare plans are very spartan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

You chose your plan, they are not all the same. More importantly, You may be having a migraine. A family member of mine had weird flashing in the eyes and it ended up being caused by migraines. You might want to see an actual doctor, instead of Dr. Google before reaching a diagnosis, much less whether your plan will cover it.

All of these plans are missing specialists. How is a person supposed to figure out which specialist they might need in advance? There are so many possible conditions one could get.

But that's a good idea about seeing my general doctor first. The only thing is....I thought migraines were excruciating. Other than the weird flashing, I had no pain and no headache.

Anyway, first thing tomorrow I'm calling my primary care doctor.

You should look at CareFirst BC/BS plans. We have never had issues finding specialists with our individual plans with them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

You chose your plan, they are not all the same. More importantly, You may be having a migraine. A family member of mine had weird flashing in the eyes and it ended up being caused by migraines. You might want to see an actual doctor, instead of Dr. Google before reaching a diagnosis, much less whether your plan will cover it.

All of these plans are missing specialists. How is a person supposed to figure out which specialist they might need in advance? There are so many possible conditions one could get.

But that's a good idea about seeing my general doctor first. The only thing is....I thought migraines were excruciating. Other than the weird flashing, I had no pain and no headache.

Anyway, first thing tomorrow I'm calling my primary care doctor.

You should look at CareFirst BC/BS plans. We have never had issues finding specialists with our individual plans with them.

Thank you, but my part of the county does not have it available. That's another problem with Obamare. The choices have become so limited, and I only had a choice of two insurers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

You chose your plan, they are not all the same. More importantly, You may be having a migraine. A family member of mine had weird flashing in the eyes and it ended up being caused by migraines. You might want to see an actual doctor, instead of Dr. Google before reaching a diagnosis, much less whether your plan will cover it.

All of these plans are missing specialists. How is a person supposed to figure out which specialist they might need in advance? There are so many possible conditions one could get.

But that's a good idea about seeing my general doctor first. The only thing is....I thought migraines were excruciating. Other than the weird flashing, I had no pain and no headache.

Anyway, first thing tomorrow I'm calling my primary care doctor.

You should look at CareFirst BC/BS plans. We have never had issues finding specialists with our individual plans with them.

Thank you, but my part of the county does not have it available. That's another problem with Obamare. The choices have become so limited, and I only had a choice of two insurers.

Where are you? Near major metropolitan center?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits. You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.

Indians too. All kinds of relatives parents here proudly drawing social security and Medicaid and bragging about it without having paid in a dime bc they lived in India their whole working lives and came to live with their kids when they got their precious IT jobs. Fuckers. Why not change the system - the rest of us need to pay in for 40 quarters but they don’t??

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v61n4/v61n4p3.pdf All the sponsors should repay including market rates on section 8, Medicaid, medicare claims and premiums, plus SSI. In the US for 5 years they can get medicare and subsidies. Not a Trump and Sessions fan but this is an issue that must be addressed. Note they have been busy getting doctors prescribing opioids -- where the heck was the Obama admin on that? Simple claims tracking and statistics-far easier than informants etc.

"Exceptions to deeming are made in cases in which the spon- sored noncitizen is indigent or when a sponsored noncitizen or his or her child or parent has been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty, If a sponsored noncitizen receives any means- tested public benefits during the deeming period, the sponsor is liable for repayment of the benefits and subject to legal action if benefits are not repayed."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
But that's a good idea about seeing my general doctor first. The only thing is....I thought migraines were excruciating. Other than the weird flashing, I had no pain and no headache.

Anyway, first thing tomorrow I'm calling my primary care doctor.

I get migraine variant, with just the scotoma (flashing light) that expands outward and eventually melts away. But when I was younger, it was classic migraines.

https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1142731-overview

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

Medical insurance policies including catastrophic, typically don't cover vision or dental, and that's been the case whether pre-ACA or after ACA. You typically need a separate vision and dental plan and it's been like that for a very very long time. It has nothing to do with ACA.

The GOP proposal would leave you to pay for your vision issue out of pocket, however much that is. Hope you have enough in savings because that's their plan for you. Good luck and sorry for your misfortune.

Thanks for the well wishes.

But you're wrong about the vision. Vision isn't covered, true - but that's stuff like glasses, refractions, or optional things like Lasik. Retinal problems are considered medical and would have been covered pre ACA. Liberals don't want to admit it, but the Obamacare plans are very spartan.

I think you are mistaken on that. Most of the people who "lost their plan because of ACA" had LESS coverage, not more. The plans that were eliminated did not even meet the basic standard and provide the basic services that ACA plans do. Any plan that covered more than an ACA plan also would have cost more than an ACA plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My chinese relatives apply for every program they have eligibility for.

Its not uncommon in asian communities to bring your parents over upon retirement and have them apply for benefits. You will see plenty of this on mitbbs and wenxuecity and the like, chinese schools sometimes have seminars on how to apply.

Indians too. All kinds of relatives parents here proudly drawing social security and Medicaid and bragging about it without having paid in a dime bc they lived in India their whole working lives and came to live with their kids when they got their precious IT jobs. Fuckers. Why not change the system - the rest of us need to pay in for 40 quarters but they don’t??

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v61n4/v61n4p3.pdf All the sponsors should repay including market rates on section 8, Medicaid, medicare claims and premiums, plus SSI. In the US for 5 years they can get medicare and subsidies. Not a Trump and Sessions fan but this is an issue that must be addressed. Note they have been busy getting doctors prescribing opioids -- where the heck was the Obama admin on that? Simple claims tracking and statistics-far easier than informants etc.

"Exceptions to deeming are made in cases in which the spon- sored noncitizen is indigent or when a sponsored noncitizen or his or her child or parent has been battered or subjected to extreme cruelty, If a sponsored noncitizen receives any means- tested public benefits during the deeming period, the sponsor is liable for repayment of the benefits and subject to legal action if benefits are not repayed."

How do we get them to address it though? How has this not hit Trump's radar? I don't know if Indians using Section 8 (bc their parents live in), but they definitely use the medicare/Medicaid and freaking brag about how they can get Social Security without ever having contributed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

You chose your plan, they are not all the same. More importantly, You may be having a migraine. A family member of mine had weird flashing in the eyes and it ended up being caused by migraines. You might want to see an actual doctor, instead of Dr. Google before reaching a diagnosis, much less whether your plan will cover it.

All of these plans are missing specialists. How is a person supposed to figure out which specialist they might need in advance? There are so many possible conditions one could get.

But that's a good idea about seeing my general doctor first. The only thing is....I thought migraines were excruciating. Other than the weird flashing, I had no pain and no headache.

Anyway, first thing tomorrow I'm calling my primary care doctor.

You should look at CareFirst BC/BS plans. We have never had issues finding specialists with our individual plans with them.

Thank you, but my part of the county does not have it available. That's another problem with Obamare. The choices have become so limited, and I only had a choice of two insurers.

The free market has failed you, that could have happened with or without ACA. The insurance industry, like any other industry seeks monopolies and looks to eliminate competitors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

You chose your plan, they are not all the same. More importantly, You may be having a migraine. A family member of mine had weird flashing in the eyes and it ended up being caused by migraines. You might want to see an actual doctor, instead of Dr. Google before reaching a diagnosis, much less whether your plan will cover it.

All of these plans are missing specialists. How is a person supposed to figure out which specialist they might need in advance? There are so many possible conditions one could get.

But that's a good idea about seeing my general doctor first. The only thing is....I thought migraines were excruciating. Other than the weird flashing, I had no pain and no headache.

Anyway, first thing tomorrow I'm calling my primary care doctor.

Can be excruciating, but not necessarily. In our case, the patient didn’t even have a headache, just flashing in his vision. It was scary and we went to the ER.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

Medical insurance policies including catastrophic, typically don't cover vision or dental, and that's been the case whether pre-ACA or after ACA. You typically need a separate vision and dental plan and it's been like that for a very very long time. It has nothing to do with ACA.

The GOP proposal would leave you to pay for your vision issue out of pocket, however much that is. Hope you have enough in savings because that's their plan for you. Good luck and sorry for your misfortune.

Thanks for the well wishes.

But you're wrong about the vision. Vision isn't covered, true - but that's stuff like glasses, refractions, or optional things like Lasik. Retinal problems are considered medical and would have been covered pre ACA. Liberals don't want to admit it, but the Obamacare plans are very spartan.

You know what’s spartan? Healthcare for those with no insurance ar all before Obamacare, which led to crazy increases in costs for everyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am scared to DEATH right now. I had some weird flashing in my eye, and when I looked it up, it said it could be a retinal detachment. Problem is, my Obamacare plan has no retinologists, so I will have to go to an ophthalmologist - who cannot do the repair surgery. If it IS a detachment, I will have to pay for the surgery out of pocket, and it will be a FORTUNE. I am really, really worried. The flashing stopped, but I will call a retinologist tomorrow and just pay out of pocket to see him. If it's a detachment, I am SCREWED. I will be paying off the surgery for at least five years.

I looked up some retinologists, and while none took Obamacare, they did take Medicaid and Medicare. That means that poor people, covered under Medicaid, can get necessary surgeries that middle-class people with Obamacare policies cannot. And we are paying a fortune for these policies, while our taxes pay for the poor people on Medicaid. Same with the foreigners taking advantage of the Medicare program. They too can get this surgery covered.

Seems the only people who cannot get medical treatment they need are the middle-class people on Obamacare, paying taxes.

Medical insurance policies including catastrophic, typically don't cover vision or dental, and that's been the case whether pre-ACA or after ACA. You typically need a separate vision and dental plan and it's been like that for a very very long time. It has nothing to do with ACA.

The GOP proposal would leave you to pay for your vision issue out of pocket, however much that is. Hope you have enough in savings because that's their plan for you. Good luck and sorry for your misfortune.

Thanks for the well wishes.

But you're wrong about the vision. Vision isn't covered, true - but that's stuff like glasses, refractions, or optional things like Lasik. Retinal problems are considered medical and would have been covered pre ACA. Liberals don't want to admit it, but the Obamacare plans are very spartan.

You know what’s spartan? Healthcare for those with no insurance ar all before Obamacare, which led to crazy increases in costs for everyone.

Yep, pre-ACA my insurance costs went routinely went up 10%, 20%, 30% virtually every single year. Definitely too much greed in the system. We pay vastly more for routine medical procedures, services and drugs than they do anywhere else in the world and for absolutely no good reason whatsoever other than profiteering. That's GOP healthcare for you.

[Anonymous]

Something like 40% of U.S. citizens do not pay income tax. That's just another form of welfare. They are enjoying benefits without making a contribution.

[Anonymous]

I don't mind paying for other US citizens, my neighbors. I do not want to pay for elderly chinese that abandoned their culture to take advantage of our society

Norman Matloff - You were correct earlier when you suggested that reforms in immigration and welfare policies are related. Last year when the U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform recommended cutting back on family reunification, they specifically mentioned immigrant use of welfare, especially by elderly immigrants.

Concerning Chinese, I don't know how to say this in a nice way, but elderly Chinese immigrants have become especially heavy users of welfare, relative to other nationalities. By "Chinese" I mean people from China, Taiwan and Hong Kong. Among all elderly Chinese immigrants who immigrated to California between 1980 and 1987, 55 percent - more than half! - were on welfare in 1990. That Chinese rate is nearly triple the Mexican rate of 21 percent.

http://www.thesocialcontract.com/artman2/publish/tsc0603/article_550_printer.shtml