FCPS's "reduced quality of public education due to the illegal situation"

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Let's look at this in practical terms. These kids are here. Some of them have parents who came illegally and some have parents who came illegally. But they are being raised here now. They're growing up as American kids. The school system is legally obligated to educate all children who live here. The school system does not make immigration policy. I think we should be able to agree that it is better to educate a generation than create a generation that can't participate in society. In other words, if you think you don't like Hispanic immigrants now, just imagine how much you wouldn't like it if none of their kids ever learned English or graduated from high school.


Great perspective.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Here's a statistic for you: 2 to 3 new public schools have to be built in Loudoun County every year.



Which school system in the area isn't overwhelmed with influx of new students? And BTW the vast majority of new students are here legally.
Anonymous
Just like flight attendants tell passengers to put on their air mask before helping others, we need to do the same for our country. To preserve our American standard of living, which is the envy of much of the world, we have to control immigration and only let in those who will help make this country better. Otherwise, the US will become just like the 3rd world crapholes immigrants are escaping. Those with skills, not the world’s peasants, should be our immigration priority. Stop the policy of “family reunification” that JFK started. I’m liberal about many things, but immigration policy is not one of them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's look at this in practical terms. These kids are here. Some of them have parents who came illegally and some have parents who came illegally. But they are being raised here now. They're growing up as American kids. The school system is legally obligated to educate all children who live here. The school system does not make immigration policy. I think we should be able to agree that it is better to educate a generation than create a generation that can't participate in society. In other words, if you think you don't like Hispanic immigrants now, just imagine how much you wouldn't like it if none of their kids ever learned English or graduated from high school.


Great perspective.


The problem is you don't lay out the welcome mat and create a magnet for these types of populations in the first place. This started over 30 years ago with lack of housing enforcement and turning a blind eye and now you have entire pyramids that are overrun. Classic case is Annandale HS which has gone from a great school to average to below average in less than 15 years

Its basically too late at this point. Once the first generation comes everyone else follows suit once they come over

Almost all the schools inside the beltway are overun at this point, the Route 1 corridor is the same, and Herndon has another cluster of failure

Roughly 1/3 of Fairfax is elite at this point, the second 1/3 is fine, but the bottom 1/3 is a hellhole. If you look at the trend lines the problem is just getting worse. Part of the reason Loudoun keeps adding schools is the white flight out of FCPS. The elites living in the top 1/3 of Fairfax have no idea whats going on in the county and if things truely go south they can always go to private school. It's the middle 1/3 that has to deal with the consequences.
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Anonymous wrote:Let's look at this in practical terms. These kids are here. Some of them have parents who came illegally and some have parents who came illegally. But they are being raised here now. They're growing up as American kids. The school system is legally obligated to educate all children who live here. The school system does not make immigration policy. I think we should be able to agree that it is better to educate a generation than create a generation that can't participate in society. In other words, if you think you don't like Hispanic immigrants now, just imagine how much you wouldn't like it if none of their kids ever learned English or graduated from high school.


Great perspective.


The problem is you don't lay out the welcome mat and create a magnet for these types of populations in the first place. This started over 30 years ago with lack of housing enforcement and turning a blind eye and now you have entire pyramids that are overrun. Classic case is Annandale HS which has gone from a great school to average to below average in less than 15 years

Its basically too late at this point. Once the first generation comes everyone else follows suit once they come over

Almost all the schools inside the beltway are overun at this point, the Route 1 corridor is the same, and Herndon has another cluster of failure

Roughly 1/3 of Fairfax is elite at this point, the second 1/3 is fine, but the bottom 1/3 is a hellhole. If you look at the trend lines the problem is just getting worse. Part of the reason Loudoun keeps adding schools is the white flight out of FCPS. The elites living in the top 1/3 of Fairfax have no idea whats going on in the county and if things truely go south they can always go to private school. It's the middle 1/3 that has to deal with the consequences.


+1

Wealthy people in both parties (Democrats and Republicans) send their kids to Private school or live in the area that are not affected by illegal immigration. It’s the Middle class that has to watch their schools deteriorate and watch while class sizes get larger as more and more money gets allocated to ESOL.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Let's look at this in practical terms. These kids are here. Some of them have parents who came illegally and some have parents who came illegally. But they are being raised here now. They're growing up as American kids. The school system is legally obligated to educate all children who live here. The school system does not make immigration policy. I think we should be able to agree that it is better to educate a generation than create a generation that can't participate in society. In other words, if you think you don't like Hispanic immigrants now, just imagine how much you wouldn't like it if none of their kids ever learned English or graduated from high school.


Great perspective.


The problem is you don't lay out the welcome mat and create a magnet for these types of populations in the first place. This started over 30 years ago with lack of housing enforcement and turning a blind eye and now you have entire pyramids that are overrun. Classic case is Annandale HS which has gone from a great school to average to below average in less than 15 years

Its basically too late at this point. Once the first generation comes everyone else follows suit once they come over

Almost all the schools inside the beltway are overun at this point, the Route 1 corridor is the same, and Herndon has another cluster of failure

Roughly 1/3 of Fairfax is elite at this point, the second 1/3 is fine, but the bottom 1/3 is a hellhole. If you look at the trend lines the problem is just getting worse. Part of the reason Loudoun keeps adding schools is the white flight out of FCPS. The elites living in the top 1/3 of Fairfax have no idea whats going on in the county and if things truely go south they can always go to private school. It's the middle 1/3 that has to deal with the consequences.


+1

Wealthy people in both parties (Democrats and Republicans) send their kids to Private school or live in the area that are not affected by illegal immigration. It’s the Middle class that has to watch their schools deteriorate and watch while class sizes get larger as more and more money gets allocated to ESOL.


You mean, what you perceive as "illegal immigration". Please provide some facts to support your "boogeyman" fantasy.
Anonymous
I respect the low-income/ESOL families who move and try to improve their situation.

Lazy, entitled coal workers? Not so much.
Anonymous
How many nations of the world would provide illegal immigrants with a free education, translation services/language lessons, free meals, subsidized housing, etc.?

I can’t think of any except the US. Man, we’re stupid.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Let's look at this in practical terms. These kids are here. Some of them have parents who came illegally and some have parents who came illegally. But they are being raised here now. They're growing up as American kids. The school system is legally obligated to educate all children who live here. The school system does not make immigration policy. I think we should be able to agree that it is better to educate a generation than create a generation that can't participate in society. In other words, if you think you don't like Hispanic immigrants now, just imagine how much you wouldn't like it if none of their kids ever learned English or graduated from high school.


Great perspective.


The problem is you don't lay out the welcome mat and create a magnet for these types of populations in the first place. This started over 30 years ago with lack of housing enforcement and turning a blind eye and now you have entire pyramids that are overrun. Classic case is Annandale HS which has gone from a great school to average to below average in less than 15 years

Its basically too late at this point. Once the first generation comes everyone else follows suit once they come over

Almost all the schools inside the beltway are overun at this point, the Route 1 corridor is the same, and Herndon has another cluster of failure

Roughly 1/3 of Fairfax is elite at this point, the second 1/3 is fine, but the bottom 1/3 is a hellhole. If you look at the trend lines the problem is just getting worse. Part of the reason Loudoun keeps adding schools is the white flight out of FCPS. The elites living in the top 1/3 of Fairfax have no idea whats going on in the county and if things truely go south they can always go to private school. It's the middle 1/3 that has to deal with the consequences.


+1

Wealthy people in both parties (Democrats and Republicans) send their kids to Private school or live in the area that are not affected by illegal immigration. It’s the Middle class that has to watch their schools deteriorate and watch while class sizes get larger as more and more money gets allocated to ESOL.


You mean, what you perceive as "illegal immigration". Please provide some facts to support your "boogeyman" fantasy.


Get in your luxury suv and Ride down route 7 past seven corners into baileys crossroafs take 236 west thriugh annandale go south and take a tour of springfield head east through franconia and then head south down route 1 into culmore. That whole area

Also check out herndon

Illegals everywhere sucking down tax dollars screwing the middle class wake up limousine liberal
Anonymous
Numbers for everyone:


https://www.alexandriava.gov/uploadedFiles/dchs/adultservices/UndocumentedImmigrantsinVAandNOVA.pdf

FAIRFAX LARGEST UNDOCUMENTED POPULATIONS
El Salvador, Hondouras, Korea, Bolivia and Guatelmala


POPULATION: 83,000
SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES
FROM STATE FIGURES
96% of children 3 to 17
enrolled in school


CENTRAL AMERICAN MINORS
  • From October 1, 2015, to January 31, 2016, 24,616 families and 20,455 unaccompanied children—the vast majority from Central America—were apprehended at the southwestern US border, double the total from the same time period the year before.

    205 were placed in Alexandria in 2014--13 in every 1,000 school children, the highest ratio of any jurisdiction in the country

    1,023 were placed in Fairfax in 2014


  • http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/09/20/2-state-unauthorized-immigrant-populations/



    A variety of other countries dominate the unauthorized immigrant population in other states. El Salvador is the leading birth country in the District of Columbia, Maryland and Virginia.
    Anonymous
    Whoops meant to say hybla valley and groveton down route 1 culmore is in baileys
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:Let's look at this in practical terms. These kids are here. Some of them have parents who came illegally and some have parents who came illegally. But they are being raised here now. They're growing up as American kids. The school system is legally obligated to educate all children who live here. The school system does not make immigration policy. I think we should be able to agree that it is better to educate a generation than create a generation that can't participate in society. In other words, if you think you don't like Hispanic immigrants now, just imagine how much you wouldn't like it if none of their kids ever learned English or graduated from high school.


    Great perspective.


    The problem is you don't lay out the welcome mat and create a magnet for these types of populations in the first place. This started over 30 years ago with lack of housing enforcement and turning a blind eye and now you have entire pyramids that are overrun. Classic case is Annandale HS which has gone from a great school to average to below average in less than 15 years

    Its basically too late at this point. Once the first generation comes everyone else follows suit once they come over

    Almost all the schools inside the beltway are overun at this point, the Route 1 corridor is the same, and Herndon has another cluster of failure

    Roughly 1/3 of Fairfax is elite at this point, the second 1/3 is fine, but the bottom 1/3 is a hellhole. If you look at the trend lines the problem is just getting worse. Part of the reason Loudoun keeps adding schools is the white flight out of FCPS. The elites living in the top 1/3 of Fairfax have no idea whats going on in the county and if things truely go south they can always go to private school. It's the middle 1/3 that has to deal with the consequences.


    If anyone has a right to complain about this, it's Native Americans. You should just shut up with ignorant nonsense.
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous wrote:Let's look at this in practical terms. These kids are here. Some of them have parents who came illegally and some have parents who came illegally. But they are being raised here now. They're growing up as American kids. The school system is legally obligated to educate all children who live here. The school system does not make immigration policy. I think we should be able to agree that it is better to educate a generation than create a generation that can't participate in society. In other words, if you think you don't like Hispanic immigrants now, just imagine how much you wouldn't like it if none of their kids ever learned English or graduated from high school.


    Great perspective.


    The problem is you don't lay out the welcome mat and create a magnet for these types of populations in the first place. This started over 30 years ago with lack of housing enforcement and turning a blind eye and now you have entire pyramids that are overrun. Classic case is Annandale HS which has gone from a great school to average to below average in less than 15 years

    Its basically too late at this point. Once the first generation comes everyone else follows suit once they come over

    Almost all the schools inside the beltway are overun at this point, the Route 1 corridor is the same, and Herndon has another cluster of failure

    Roughly 1/3 of Fairfax is elite at this point, the second 1/3 is fine, but the bottom 1/3 is a hellhole. If you look at the trend lines the problem is just getting worse. Part of the reason Loudoun keeps adding schools is the white flight out of FCPS. The elites living in the top 1/3 of Fairfax have no idea whats going on in the county and if things truely go south they can always go to private school. It's the middle 1/3 that has to deal with the consequences.


    +1

    Wealthy people in both parties (Democrats and Republicans) send their kids to Private school or live in the area that are not affected by illegal immigration. It’s the Middle class that has to watch their schools deteriorate and watch while class sizes get larger as more and more money gets allocated to ESOL.


    You mean, what you perceive as "illegal immigration". Please provide some facts to support your "boogeyman" fantasy.


    Get in your luxury suv and Ride down route 7 past seven corners into baileys crossroafs take 236 west thriugh annandale go south and take a tour of springfield head east through franconia and then head south down route 1 into culmore. That whole area

    Also check out herndon

    Illegals everywhere sucking down tax dollars screwing the middle class wake up limousine liberal


    So they are low-income and speak Spanish. WTF do you assume these people are illegal?
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:Numbers for everyone:


    https://www.alexandriava.gov/uploadedFiles/dchs/adultservices/UndocumentedImmigrantsinVAandNOVA.pdf

    FAIRFAX LARGEST UNDOCUMENTED POPULATIONS
    El Salvador, Hondouras, Korea, Bolivia and Guatelmala


    POPULATION: 83,000
    SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCES
    FROM STATE FIGURES
    96% of children 3 to 17
    enrolled in school


    CENTRAL AMERICAN MINORS
  • From October 1, 2015, to January 31, 2016, 24,616 families and 20,455 unaccompanied children—the vast majority from Central America—were apprehended at the southwestern US border, double the total from the same time period the year before.

    205 were placed in Alexandria in 2014--13 in every 1,000 school children, the highest ratio of any jurisdiction in the country

    1,023 were placed in Fairfax in 2014


  • http://www.pewhispanic.org/2016/09/20/2-state-unauthorized-immigrant-populations/



    A variety of other countries dominate the unauthorized immigrant population in other states. El Salvador is the leading birth country in the District of Columbia, Maryland and Virginia.



    Assuming those estimates are accurate:

    Out of the estimated 83,000 undocumented people living in Fairfax, 24% are children; and 93% of those are enrolled in schools.

    So 18,525 children out of 189,000 in FCPS; 9.8% undocumented.

    https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps
    17% ESOL
    28% FARM
    25% Hispanic

    So less than 1/2 of those people you despise are illegal.
    Anonymous
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    Anonymous wrote:Let's look at this in practical terms. These kids are here. Some of them have parents who came illegally and some have parents who came illegally. But they are being raised here now. They're growing up as American kids. The school system is legally obligated to educate all children who live here. The school system does not make immigration policy. I think we should be able to agree that it is better to educate a generation than create a generation that can't participate in society. In other words, if you think you don't like Hispanic immigrants now, just imagine how much you wouldn't like it if none of their kids ever learned English or graduated from high school.


    Great perspective.


    The problem is you don't lay out the welcome mat and create a magnet for these types of populations in the first place. This started over 30 years ago with lack of housing enforcement and turning a blind eye and now you have entire pyramids that are overrun. Classic case is Annandale HS which has gone from a great school to average to below average in less than 15 years

    Its basically too late at this point. Once the first generation comes everyone else follows suit once they come over

    Almost all the schools inside the beltway are overun at this point, the Route 1 corridor is the same, and Herndon has another cluster of failure

    Roughly 1/3 of Fairfax is elite at this point, the second 1/3 is fine, but the bottom 1/3 is a hellhole. If you look at the trend lines the problem is just getting worse. Part of the reason Loudoun keeps adding schools is the white flight out of FCPS. The elites living in the top 1/3 of Fairfax have no idea whats going on in the county and if things truely go south they can always go to private school. It's the middle 1/3 that has to deal with the consequences.


    +1

    Wealthy people in both parties (Democrats and Republicans) send their kids to Private school or live in the area that are not affected by illegal immigration. It’s the Middle class that has to watch their schools deteriorate and watch while class sizes get larger as more and more money gets allocated to ESOL.


    You mean, what you perceive as "illegal immigration". Please provide some facts to support your "boogeyman" fantasy.


    Get in your luxury suv and Ride down route 7 past seven corners into baileys crossroafs take 236 west thriugh annandale go south and take a tour of springfield head east through franconia and then head south down route 1 into culmore. That whole area

    Also check out herndon

    Illegals everywhere sucking down tax dollars screwing the middle class wake up limousine liberal


    So they are low-income and speak Spanish. WTF do you assume these people are illegal?



    If they are legal, they should have no problem producing evidence of that, hmmm? Like a birth certificate or passport?
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