Men, be honest, if your wife was fat

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Anonymous wrote:I'm 5'8'', wear size 8 at 160 pounds, and I disgust myself.

If I was a size 14, I would think any attraction to me likely comes from a very niche audience.

Sounds like you have low self esteem. If you have digits for yourself, how is that going to attract others regardless of size? Confidence goes a LONG way. I'd rather date or marry a confident with extra weight that a small sized women who loathes herself. In regards to size I think you'd be surprised.

Sometimes low self esteem is just common sense. I don't delude myself that I'm in good shape, at least. Masking it with "confidence" is being deliberately blind. I know how I look when I'm in a better shape, and how much I SHOULD weigh. Confidence should not be used to mask fat.

There is no such thing as attraction regardless of size. Smaller size gets more attraction. Stop making things up to pretend it isn't so.

You are perpetuating a problem we have today in our culture. Confidence does not mean you should be masking anything. It does mean loving yourself and accepting who you are (but you already knew that). Self esteem absolutely does not equal common sense or eating disorders would not exist. Your post discounting others options does not make it true. Some people have low self esteem no matter how thin they are. Haven't you ever heard of anorexia?!

You and I look at this differently. I don't love my physical self when I'm 20 pounds over my preferred weight, and I don't want to accept it, I want to lose it. I don't think overweight women should be encouraged to "accept" their bodies the way they are. Your position is basically to shield someone from the knowledge that something is wrong with their bodies because it might make them feel bad. The self esteem I meant has nothing to do with your human or personal worth; it means that when you're 20 pounds heavier than you ought to be, that you feel bad about it. That's normal. You SHOULD feel bad about it. You should strive to change that, not strive to normalize that in your head.

I have naturally curly, naturally blond hair. I find women with straight, brown/black/red hair ugly and believe they should do something about it. They should strive to change that and it's a shame they don't.

You're comparing the uncomparable and it's silly. Besides, changing your hair is lots easier than losing 20 pounds.

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Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

Ridiculous. I am 50 years old. Five grown children. 5'5 and 117 pounds. With measurements of 34/24/34, I promise you I do not look like an adolescent boy. You can be fit and still look very feminine.

But your face probably tells a different story and you probably look every bit of 50 and then some. I'm sorry but I'm being honest. Thin women who are over the hill look OLD in the face. Like that actress once said there comes a time in a woman's life when she must choose between her face and her back side. I will choose my face when that time comes. Not there yet. I'm only 30.

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Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

Ridiculous. I am 50 years old. Five grown children. 5'5 and 117 pounds. With measurements of 34/24/34, I promise you I do not look like an adolescent boy. You can be fit and still look very feminine.

But your face probably tells a different story and you probably look every bit of 50 and then some. I'm sorry but I'm being honest. Thin women who are over the hill look OLD in the face. Like that actress once said there comes a time in a woman's life when she must choose between her face and her back side. I will choose my face when that time comes. Not there yet. I'm only 30.

I'm not the poster you're arguing with, but you're clearly too young to talk about this intelligently. When you are fifty plus, you won't fool anyone with a few more pounds. You'll still look old, a bigger old but old still. Your face won't fool anyone. But you'll be compounding it with a fatter body, limited range of clothing, and a host of health risks. I'll take a trim figure over a slightly younger face any day. Because again - that actress was just joking. Keeping the pounds on will not make your face look thirty. You'll still be a fifty, but an older, frumpier fifty. There are virtually no stylish older women who are on the bigger side. All known stylish older women are skinny, seriously skinny.

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Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

Ridiculous. I am 50 years old. Five grown children. 5'5 and 117 pounds. With measurements of 34/24/34, I promise you I do not look like an adolescent boy. You can be fit and still look very feminine.

But your face probably tells a different story and you probably look every bit of 50 and then some. I'm sorry but I'm being honest. Thin women who are over the hill look OLD in the face. Like that actress once said there comes a time in a woman's life when she must choose between her face and her back side. I will choose my face when that time comes. Not there yet. I'm only 30.

I'm not the poster you're arguing with, but you're clearly too young to talk about this intelligently. When you are fifty plus, you won't fool anyone with a few more pounds. You'll still look old, a bigger old but old still. Your face won't fool anyone. But you'll be compounding it with a fatter body, limited range of clothing, and a host of health risks. I'll take a trim figure over a slightly younger face any day. Because again - that actress was just joking. Keeping the pounds on will not make your face look thirty. You'll still be a fifty, but an older, frumpier fifty. There are virtually no stylish older women who are on the bigger side. All known stylish older women are skinny, seriously skinny.

This is very true. Apply the same principle to older men. If they are in shape and their races look old they are still hot. If I were single I would sleep with them. I would not find a fat old man sexy at all. I think a lot of older people are hot and sexy but they are all fit.

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^ stylish older women have to be super skinny?

Hubba hubba

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Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

This is what fat women tell themselves to feel better about their poor lifestyle choices. A fit woman does not, at all, look like an adolescent boy. But sure, keep devouring those twinkies while you blame everyone else for their lack of good taste.

I am really tired of this myth that classic paintings and statues depict a "healthier" type of woman, meaning fat. That's complete bullshit. Outside of Rubens, an outlier with his own personal issues, women on classical paintings are all conventionally trim. Classical Greek and Rodin statues are all of conventionally proportionate women. Go look. They are maybe one size larger than what would be considered ideal today, and they don't have chiseled muscles, but they are NOT fat. Your typical Greek woman in marble would be about 5'6'', smallish breasts, subtly rounded bellies, shapely legs, slender arms and shoulders. Enough with the bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_of_Knidos

I look almost exactly like that sculpture, and I am a size 10. That sculpture looks absolutely nothing like today's models or porn stars.

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Anonymous wrote:^ stylish older women have to be super skinny?

Hubba hubba

Other than her bust, she is skinny.

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Anonymous wrote:^ stylish older women have to be super skinny?

Hubba hubba

According to a google search she is 5'4 145lbs

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Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

This is what fat women tell themselves to feel better about their poor lifestyle choices. A fit woman does not, at all, look like an adolescent boy. But sure, keep devouring those twinkies while you blame everyone else for their lack of good taste.

I am really tired of this myth that classic paintings and statues depict a "healthier" type of woman, meaning fat. That's complete bullshit. Outside of Rubens, an outlier with his own personal issues, women on classical paintings are all conventionally trim. Classical Greek and Rodin statues are all of conventionally proportionate women. Go look. They are maybe one size larger than what would be considered ideal today, and they don't have chiseled muscles, but they are NOT fat. Your typical Greek woman in marble would be about 5'6'', smallish breasts, subtly rounded bellies, shapely legs, slender arms and shoulders. Enough with the bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphrodite_of_Knidos

I look almost exactly like that sculpture, and I am a size 10. That sculpture looks absolutely nothing like today's models or porn stars.

Nobody said anything about models or porn stars. I don't know you so I won't comment on your body, but if you make that statue a woman and dress her in today's clothes, most men will find her height/weight proportionate. She is in no way overweight. She could easily be a size six. Or four. The point is that she's not a "bigger woman".

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Size 14 is fat? That isn't even plus size. I've worn a 14 since our second child was born. These hips aren't going far no matter how many hours I spend at the gym.

No wonder some girls/women starve themselves. They are being compared to Victoria's Secret models or something.

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Anonymous wrote:^ stylish older women have to be super skinny?

Hubba hubba

According to a google search she is 5'4 145lbs

That's pretty trim at her age. Google her in a red carpet dress and you'll see she's seriously skinny. Not remotely "bigger", voluptuous or whatever adjectives they use.

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Anonymous wrote:^ stylish older women have to be super skinny?

Hubba hubba

According to a google search she is 5'4 145lbs

That's pretty trim at her age. Google her in a red carpet dress and you'll see she's seriously skinny. Not remotely "bigger", voluptuous or whatever adjectives they use.

I wish I had her jugs. Just saying.

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In that case, I'd be trading in the clunky minivan for a sleek, sexy sports car.

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Anonymous wrote:Size 14
Would you still be sexually attracted to her?

How tall? Size 14 is not fat for many women.

5feet 7 inches

I am 5'7" a size 14 and I am within the weight suggested as healthy by my doctor. i walk 15000+ steps a day, I average 30 flights of stairs a day, I bycycle 40 minutes 4 times a week. I have very healthy.

A healthy weight at 5'7" would be under 155lbs. I doubt you are a size 14 at that weight and height.

Agree. I'm 5'7, 145 size 8. To be a 14, I'd likely weigh 180+

I was 5'9" 138 and I wore size 10, now I am 155 and wear a 12.

Sizing is weird. I'm 5'9" too and at 138 I wore a size 6. I'm 170 now and wear a size 12.

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Anonymous wrote:Go look at statues of fertility goddesses and Aphrodites. They all have full thighs, bellies, butts. This American obsession with adult women looking like adolescent boys is insane. If you really want an adolescent boy, go get yourself one.

This is what fat women tell themselves to feel better about their poor lifestyle choices. A fit woman does not, at all, look like an adolescent boy. But sure, keep devouring those twinkies while you blame everyone else for their lack of good taste.

American men have distorted views because of the prevalence of fake boobs here. A size 2-4 with 34DD breasts is not the result of being fit. It's a surgical intervention. Go to other countries and look at the fit women. Almost always A cups.

I live in Eastern Europe and I can assure you this is not true. I know plenty of fit, slim women who are C and above. And I'm a fit woman who is a C cup, before you leap in to say I must be a man who doesn't know what he is looking at. The fresh foods and plenty of walking keep most women slim.