You don't have to support them. I just don't agree with stereotyping all of them as if they are drug dealing, thieves or murderers, who enjoy being here illegally so they can mooch of the system and not pay taxes. It's not an accurate view. |
Nah, all those things got taken care of before immigrants and all those things will be done if they left. Life goes on - mexicans or no mexicans |
NP - not all of them. I agree with you. but that doesn't change the fact that all of the illegals are, matter fact, illegals and, therefore, broke the laws. |
Can you tell me about a time in US history when there weren't immigrants to take on heavy labor jobs? Or are Latin American immigrants the only ones you have a problem with? |
Apparently RC and Contextual reasoning is not your strong suite, please read slowly and comprehend it before replying. |
Sneaking into any country to work and live is illegal. Therefore, they are not "undocmented immigrants" they are illegal aliens. They are law breakers. LAWLESS, just like the corrupt and filthy countries they come from mainly the Latin-speaking mosquito-infested cesspools south of Texas. My thinking is if these people will break immigration laws they are likely to break other laws too like running stop signs (a friend of mine was terribly injured because an illegal alien paid no attention/did not understand our traffic laws) or steal whatever they feel necessary to fake it or make it like they do in their own filthy country. People who have to break the law to sneak into the country are desparate or they are criminals and want to sneak in to commit their crimes undetected. I am all for giving people a hand to help. but such people should do so through proper legal channels which is why we have --drumroll please, embassies in about every country in the world where people can petition to be let in. Naturally, if such people are illiterate, evil, or diseased and cannot or will not go through the process then I do not want people like that in my country, certainly not in my neighborhood and not in my school system where teacher resources are already overextendend and now they have to coddle these people with teaching them in their own language. WHAT THE HELL? If I moved to another country and demanded they teach my children in my language I would expect to be treated with the greatest of disdain at being so vile and offensive to the host country. I see illegal aliens as vile scammers and spammers not to be trusted. Not all of them of course, you cannot paint them all with the same brush, but the majority of them are this way, coming in and expecting handouts and getting benefits they did not earn and do not deserve. To reiterate: i am talking about illegal immigrants, not immigrants who used proper, legal channels to enter this country. Personally, I think immigration is great: more immigrants means more people buying food, shelter, clothing increasing demand thus stimulating the economy to produce more supply, and America has huge swaths of land virtually uninhabited. Why, we could fit all the population of El Salavador in Wyoming, and all the people of Guatamala in the swamps of Louisiana if we wanted to. There is plenty room for more people, room for a billion more. Just think of a billion new citizens all buying cars, and clothes, and computers, our economy would be forced to expand to accomodate them. But they need to get here lawfully and not be a drain on the safety net which is for emergency situations, not a substitute for employment. |
X 1000 It's not fair to people who are applying legally and who sometimes wait patiently for years. |
Out of touch with wages? Minimum wage, at the lowest level, is 15, 080. And out of touch with financial reality? $24 an hour for someone with little to no education? Outside of sports brawn doesn't pay what 'brain' and skill does. And let's touch on reality as a whole. Through high school your education is free. Poor, they will feed you too. Get your diploma there are trade schools, some public and some private, all across the country (many high schools have such vocational programs as well) that will teach you mechanics, construction, welding, electrical and plumbing, all of which can earn a person a much better than average wage. Poor and can't afford it? Federal aid is available. And one more thing, those kind of jobs can't be outsourced. So, why would any high school educated American want to work in the fields for 50k when they could do any of the above? |
But what you're not getting is that the majority are sending their money home - stimulating their home-country's economy. Not ours. And you really think they want to live in the swamps of Louisiana? Get serious. |
No sorry this is bullshit. We cannot have 100% open borders. We will be overwhelmed. |
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I think they do typically pay taxes and work pretty hard at low level jobs.
The ones I know typically love their children and want opportunities for them. I think that the lobby groups who get them benefits such as in state college tuition are way out of line though. Sorry - but you need to pay for that. Legal immigrants are entitled to none of that. They can't even take out student loans. Many of them are talented hard working members of our society but they're sent home after a while regardless. Do if you go to another country and set up shop you either Kay or they kick you out. |
Hey! You're dissing the Cajuns and Creoles now. The bayou is home to many Coon-asses (they call themselves that). It's better than you think although I admit it isn't the life for everyone. I am just demonstrating there are large swaths of land sparsely inhabited that could be developed to make room for more people. It was just as an example. I could have used the empty prairies of Kansas and Nebraska as an example too |
There are actually work visas where you can come and legally work a seasonal job here (such as painting) for x number of months and then you go home. |
| I've had it with lazy, legal, entitled workers. At least people coming here have some hustle. |
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