Your son was breaking all the cookies on the counter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladies & Gents:

My oldest works at Starbucks. He just informed me that not only do they not care if the kids come in and crush cookies but they crush the cookies themselves so they can put new stock out.

It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was.

All the left over foods go home with the workers at night, including most of the packaged cookies. Starbucks is still turning a HUGE profit on your $4.99 grande cups of COFFEE. A pack of crushed cookies isn't going to kill their profit. And again, NOT ACCEPTABLE, but really OP, not your battle to be fighting.

Your kid is 13 months, just wait 6 months before you judge the wild boy crushing cookies. You'll get yours when your little angel tosses her food at you from across the table at your favorite restaurant and you can't calm her, it's not always about how you parent, it's about temperament and personality as well. You'll find this out in due time.

Lady,

It's NOT ABOUT THE COOKIES!

It's about parents not paying attention to their children! How many times we'll have to say this?

I'm the OP and I was honest when I loudly said that I hope someone points out to me that my child is a brat when she acts like that and I don't notice. I'm not saying I'm immune to this. Can you even read? I hope "your oldest" has a better reading comprehension than your so he can get a better job later on.

OP, I think *YOUR* reading comprehension is abhorrent. Did you read anything I wrote? How do you know there weren't extenuating circumstances that were preventing the mom from dealing with her child? Did you stop reading what I wrote after the 1st sentence as you didn't address my question at all. Yes, the child was not behaving as you would have liked him to be, BUT how do you know the mother did not just lose a spouse, a pet, a parent, get a cancer diagnosis, total a car, have a miscarriage... how do you know she wasn't ignoring the child due to a major life event that you weren't privy to?

Please answer me. Thank you.

"It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was. "

Sorry, I agree with the OP. You seem to spend a lot of time in your post writing about cookies and how the cookies don't really matter, etc.

Also, as OP noted, it's not about the CHILD behaving badly, it's about the mother's reaction. So, yes, OP's kid could turn out to be a nightmare at a restaurant, but OP is saying that she would say something or do something about it, rather than ignore or condone it.

[Anonymous]

OP's child is 13 MONTHS OLD. We'll see how she likes it when some smug new mom points out her awful parenting when she is having an awful day and her child is acting out. Grateful indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladies & Gents:

My oldest works at Starbucks. He just informed me that not only do they not care if the kids come in and crush cookies but they crush the cookies themselves so they can put new stock out.

It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was.

All the left over foods go home with the workers at night, including most of the packaged cookies. Starbucks is still turning a HUGE profit on your $4.99 grande cups of COFFEE. A pack of crushed cookies isn't going to kill their profit. And again, NOT ACCEPTABLE, but really OP, not your battle to be fighting.

Your kid is 13 months, just wait 6 months before you judge the wild boy crushing cookies. You'll get yours when your little angel tosses her food at you from across the table at your favorite restaurant and you can't calm her, it's not always about how you parent, it's about temperament and personality as well. You'll find this out in due time.

Lady,

It's NOT ABOUT THE COOKIES!

It's about parents not paying attention to their children! How many times we'll have to say this?

I'm the OP and I was honest when I loudly said that I hope someone points out to me that my child is a brat when she acts like that and I don't notice. I'm not saying I'm immune to this. Can you even read? I hope "your oldest" has a better reading comprehension than your so he can get a better job later on.

OP, I think *YOUR* reading comprehension is abhorrent. Did you read anything I wrote? How do you know there weren't extenuating circumstances that were preventing the mom from dealing with her child? Did you stop reading what I wrote after the 1st sentence as you didn't address my question at all. Yes, the child was not behaving as you would have liked him to be, BUT how do you know the mother did not just lose a spouse, a pet, a parent, get a cancer diagnosis, total a car, have a miscarriage... how do you know she wasn't ignoring the child due to a major life event that you weren't privy to?

Please answer me. Thank you.

"It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was. "

Sorry, I agree with the OP. You seem to spend a lot of time in your post writing about cookies and how the cookies don't really matter, etc.

Also, as OP noted, it's not about the CHILD behaving badly, it's about the mother's reaction. So, yes, OP's kid could turn out to be a nightmare at a restaurant, but OP is saying that she would say something or do something about it, rather than ignore or condone it.

Wow, I was trying to give you a different perspective to the mother's aloof attitude that you and the OP are both glossing over. Let me say it again, is it possible the mother wasn't redirecting her child because the mother was having a bad day, bad to the point that something really BAD happened and she was not able to focus on anything else.

Does that make what I am trying to paint out for you any clearer? I was focusing on the mother, go back and read what I wrote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladies & Gents:

My oldest works at Starbucks. He just informed me that not only do they not care if the kids come in and crush cookies but they crush the cookies themselves so they can put new stock out.

It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was.

All the left over foods go home with the workers at night, including most of the packaged cookies. Starbucks is still turning a HUGE profit on your $4.99 grande cups of COFFEE. A pack of crushed cookies isn't going to kill their profit. And again, NOT ACCEPTABLE, but really OP, not your battle to be fighting.

Your kid is 13 months, just wait 6 months before you judge the wild boy crushing cookies. You'll get yours when your little angel tosses her food at you from across the table at your favorite restaurant and you can't calm her, it's not always about how you parent, it's about temperament and personality as well. You'll find this out in due time.

Lady,

It's NOT ABOUT THE COOKIES!

It's about parents not paying attention to their children! How many times we'll have to say this?

I'm the OP and I was honest when I loudly said that I hope someone points out to me that my child is a brat when she acts like that and I don't notice. I'm not saying I'm immune to this. Can you even read? I hope "your oldest" has a better reading comprehension than your so he can get a better job later on.

OP, I think *YOUR* reading comprehension is abhorrent. Did you read anything I wrote? How do you know there weren't extenuating circumstances that were preventing the mom from dealing with her child? Did you stop reading what I wrote after the 1st sentence as you didn't address my question at all. Yes, the child was not behaving as you would have liked him to be, BUT how do you know the mother did not just lose a spouse, a pet, a parent, get a cancer diagnosis, total a car, have a miscarriage... how do you know she wasn't ignoring the child due to a major life event that you weren't privy to?

Please answer me. Thank you.

"It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was. "

Sorry, I agree with the OP. You seem to spend a lot of time in your post writing about cookies and how the cookies don't really matter, etc.

Also, as OP noted, it's not about the CHILD behaving badly, it's about the mother's reaction. So, yes, OP's kid could turn out to be a nightmare at a restaurant, but OP is saying that she would say something or do something about it, rather than ignore or condone it.

Wow, I was trying to give you a different perspective to the mother's aloof attitude that you and the OP are both glossing over. Let me say it again, is it possible the mother wasn't redirecting her child because the mother was having a bad day, bad to the point that something really BAD happened and she was not able to focus on anything else.

Does that make what I am trying to paint out for you any clearer? I was focusing on the mother, go back and read what I wrote.

Let me bold for you why people think you emphasize the cookies--see above.

[Anonymous]

The chances of this being extenuating circumstances are about 1 in a million. You only have to read this thread to realize there are dozens of parents who have no issue with their child crumbling cookies. Don't you know Starbucks has more cookies in the back. No reason to believe that mom at Starbucks just didn't share the same view as many of the moms / dads on here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladies & Gents:

My oldest works at Starbucks. He just informed me that not only do they not care if the kids come in and crush cookies but they crush the cookies themselves so they can put new stock out.

It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was.

All the left over foods go home with the workers at night, including most of the packaged cookies. Starbucks is still turning a HUGE profit on your $4.99 grande cups of COFFEE. A pack of crushed cookies isn't going to kill their profit. And again, NOT ACCEPTABLE, but really OP, not your battle to be fighting.

Your kid is 13 months, just wait 6 months before you judge the wild boy crushing cookies. You'll get yours when your little angel tosses her food at you from across the table at your favorite restaurant and you can't calm her, it's not always about how you parent, it's about temperament and personality as well. You'll find this out in due time.

Lady,

It's NOT ABOUT THE COOKIES!

It's about parents not paying attention to their children! How many times we'll have to say this?

I'm the OP and I was honest when I loudly said that I hope someone points out to me that my child is a brat when she acts like that and I don't notice. I'm not saying I'm immune to this. Can you even read? I hope "your oldest" has a better reading comprehension than your so he can get a better job later on.

OP, I think *YOUR* reading comprehension is abhorrent. Did you read anything I wrote? How do you know there weren't extenuating circumstances that were preventing the mom from dealing with her child? Did you stop reading what I wrote after the 1st sentence as you didn't address my question at all. Yes, the child was not behaving as you would have liked him to be, BUT how do you know the mother did not just lose a spouse, a pet, a parent, get a cancer diagnosis, total a car, have a miscarriage... how do you know she wasn't ignoring the child due to a major life event that you weren't privy to?

Please answer me. Thank you.

"It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was. "

Sorry, I agree with the OP. You seem to spend a lot of time in your post writing about cookies and how the cookies don't really matter, etc.

Also, as OP noted, it's not about the CHILD behaving badly, it's about the mother's reaction. So, yes, OP's kid could turn out to be a nightmare at a restaurant, but OP is saying that she would say something or do something about it, rather than ignore or condone it.

Wow, I was trying to give you a different perspective to the mother's aloof attitude that you and the OP are both glossing over. Let me say it again, is it possible the mother wasn't redirecting her child because the mother was having a bad day, bad to the point that something really BAD happened and she was not able to focus on anything else.

Does that make what I am trying to paint out for you any clearer? I was focusing on the mother, go back and read what I wrote.

Let me bold for you why people think you emphasize the cookies--see above.

Yes, focus on that, not the latter half of what I wrote of the subsequent post. Very selective of you, maybe YOU were preoccupied with what I wrote and couldn't focus...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladies & Gents:

My oldest works at Starbucks. He just informed me that not only do they not care if the kids come in and crush cookies but they crush the cookies themselves so they can put new stock out.

It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was.

All the left over foods go home with the workers at night, including most of the packaged cookies. Starbucks is still turning a HUGE profit on your $4.99 grande cups of COFFEE. A pack of crushed cookies isn't going to kill their profit. And again, NOT ACCEPTABLE, but really OP, not your battle to be fighting.

Your kid is 13 months, just wait 6 months before you judge the wild boy crushing cookies. You'll get yours when your little angel tosses her food at you from across the table at your favorite restaurant and you can't calm her, it's not always about how you parent, it's about temperament and personality as well. You'll find this out in due time.

Lady,

It's NOT ABOUT THE COOKIES!

It's about parents not paying attention to their children! How many times we'll have to say this?

I'm the OP and I was honest when I loudly said that I hope someone points out to me that my child is a brat when she acts like that and I don't notice. I'm not saying I'm immune to this. Can you even read? I hope "your oldest" has a better reading comprehension than your so he can get a better job later on.

OP, I think *YOUR* reading comprehension is abhorrent. Did you read anything I wrote? How do you know there weren't extenuating circumstances that were preventing the mom from dealing with her child? Did you stop reading what I wrote after the 1st sentence as you didn't address my question at all. Yes, the child was not behaving as you would have liked him to be, BUT how do you know the mother did not just lose a spouse, a pet, a parent, get a cancer diagnosis, total a car, have a miscarriage... how do you know she wasn't ignoring the child due to a major life event that you weren't privy to?

Please answer me. Thank you.

"It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was. "

Sorry, I agree with the OP. You seem to spend a lot of time in your post writing about cookies and how the cookies don't really matter, etc.

Also, as OP noted, it's not about the CHILD behaving badly, it's about the mother's reaction. So, yes, OP's kid could turn out to be a nightmare at a restaurant, but OP is saying that she would say something or do something about it, rather than ignore or condone it.

Wow, I was trying to give you a different perspective to the mother's aloof attitude that you and the OP are both glossing over. Let me say it again, is it possible the mother wasn't redirecting her child because the mother was having a bad day, bad to the point that something really BAD happened and she was not able to focus on anything else.

Does that make what I am trying to paint out for you any clearer? I was focusing on the mother, go back and read what I wrote.

Let me bold for you why people think you emphasize the cookies--see above.

Yes, focus on that, not the latter half of what I wrote of the subsequent post. Very selective of you, maybe YOU were preoccupied with what I wrote and couldn't focus...

Maybe you should have edited your post so that your very first sentence wasn't about cookies and the one that you wanted everyone to remember wasn't buried in the middle.

[Anonymous]

OP here.

I didn't want to get into details but here we go...

She was holding SEVERAL bags with all sorts of fancy brands stamped on them. She was clearly shopping all day long and the kid was BORED. It was a 5 or so yo child and he was tall enough to reach into the little basket and squish one by one and put them back.

I called the mother out when she was about to walk away and the boy finished breaking the 4th cookie.

She was not having a bad day, he was not special needs.

She was pretending she didn't see and he was a spoiled brat.

When a saw her husband then I really understood what kind of person she was. And I can only see where this 5yo will end...

[Anonymous]

I have to side with OP here. Even if the kid was SN (I doubt it though). I have seen way to many parents blame bad behavior on something besides the kid and their parenting. I teach preschool in NOVA and I have seen a number of parents say "oh, he did not get enough to drink or eat today" or " He did not get enough sleep so that is why he is like this."
It is crazy how many excuses parents come up with now. If a kid is ruining merchandise then the parent should be responsible for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to side with OP here. Even if the kid was SN (I doubt it though). I have seen way to many parents blame bad behavior on something besides the kid and their parenting. I teach preschool in NOVA and I have seen a number of parents say "oh, he did not get enough to drink or eat today" or " He did not get enough sleep so that is why he is like this."
It is crazy how many excuses parents come up with now. If a kid is ruining merchandise then the parent should be responsible for it.

Yupam clearly there are a lot of posters here raising little brats. They are projecting their own excuses onto this post. The sad part as these kids are being raised to be very unsuccessful in the real world.
One poster even suggested that the mom might be distracted due to a dead spouse.

God bless you that you deal with these pitiful excuse for parents day in and day out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ladies & Gents:

My oldest works at Starbucks. He just informed me that not only do they not care if the kids come in and crush cookies but they crush the cookies themselves so they can put new stock out.

It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was.

All the left over foods go home with the workers at night, including most of the packaged cookies. Starbucks is still turning a HUGE profit on your $4.99 grande cups of COFFEE. A pack of crushed cookies isn't going to kill their profit. And again, NOT ACCEPTABLE, but really OP, not your battle to be fighting.

Your kid is 13 months, just wait 6 months before you judge the wild boy crushing cookies. You'll get yours when your little angel tosses her food at you from across the table at your favorite restaurant and you can't calm her, it's not always about how you parent, it's about temperament and personality as well. You'll find this out in due time.

Lady you are nuts. I've followed you posts and you miss the mark by a mile and I'm not going to bother to point it out because you are just too damn dense.

I have 3 boys, no longer babies. I have one with a rebellious temperament. However I don't let him run wild and make excuses about his personality. I keep him on a short leash and correct his behavior when he gets out of control. Sure, he has caused scenes, but I don't ignore it. I'm guessing the OP is not an excuse maker like many of you and when her children misbehave she will correct it.

this is not about cookies, temperment, or a mom having a bad day. This is about poor parenting.

[Anonymous]

PP...well said, darlin'! I have a delightful but willful 3 year old and I'm ON IT, and if on the very off chance I miss something his older brother catches it. And THEN if by a rare shot he makes it past those barriers I hope a mom lets me know.

Inappropriate behavior may have a reason but should never be allowed to continue. That's our JOB as parents.

I gotta say though a LOT of you DC mom's are really harsh and mean spirited toward each other. One love people!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the employees weren't concerned, why were you OP?

Maybe the employees knew the cookies were stale would be thrown out soon? Maybe they didn't care?

You do realize that Starbucks has plenty of other cookies in stock to replace the smashed ones, right? Its not as if they are some rare product never to be replaced or that they stock a 100 of them out at one time...

I know, seriously. It's not like starbucks is some struggling local startup kind of place. I actually used to work at starbucks, and the volume of food items that we threw out every evening was astounding. There is lots and lots and lots of cushion there.

You both are fucking ignorant. I managed a restaurant that put fresh baked cookies out. I'd have been pissed if a child had gotten their hands on them and crushed them because Mom is too busy ignoring bad behavior. Every Sunday I counted every single cookie made or frozen and put it into inventory. Then I'd have to go over discrepancies between different weeks with how much was ordered and why I'm short. Telling my owner that "some kid destroyed them" doesn't help my case for why I'm short, but I'm really not supposed to say anything to the mother about it. I still did occasionally when the children were being absolutely heinous, but I could've gotten in a lot of trouble for even saying what OP did.

[Anonymous]

I really don't care if Starbucks lady is the Worst Mother Ever. OP, your OWN HUSBAND was embarrassed by your behavior. You know, the person who is supposed to love you more than anyone else? EMBARRASSED BY YOU. And yet you are so smug that you can't even begin to concede that you might have handled the situation better-- no, you just insult posters who point that out.

You've showed us loud and clear what kind of person you are. Great example you're setting for your daughter.

Now go ahead and tell me how stupid I am.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladies & Gents:

My oldest works at Starbucks. He just informed me that not only do they not care if the kids come in and crush cookies but they crush the cookies themselves so they can put new stock out.

It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was.

All the left over foods go home with the workers at night, including most of the packaged cookies. Starbucks is still turning a HUGE profit on your $4.99 grande cups of COFFEE. A pack of crushed cookies isn't going to kill their profit. And again, NOT ACCEPTABLE, but really OP, not your battle to be fighting.

Your kid is 13 months, just wait 6 months before you judge the wild boy crushing cookies. You'll get yours when your little angel tosses her food at you from across the table at your favorite restaurant and you can't calm her, it's not always about how you parent, it's about temperament and personality as well. You'll find this out in due time.

Lady you are nuts. I've followed you posts and you miss the mark by a mile and I'm not going to bother to point it out because you are just too damn dense.

I have 3 boys, no longer babies. I have one with a rebellious temperament. However I don't let him run wild and make excuses about his personality. I keep him on a short leash and correct his behavior when he gets out of control. Sure, he has caused scenes, but I don't ignore it. I'm guessing the OP is not an excuse maker like many of you and when her children misbehave she will correct it.

this is not about cookies, temperment, or a mom having a bad day. This is about poor parenting.

Actually, no. It's about how the OP is a sanctimonious bitch who embarrasses those around her.