Your son was breaking all the cookies on the counter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The chances of this being extenuating circumstances are about 1 in a million. You only have to read this thread to realize there are dozens of parents who have no issue with their child crumbling cookies. Don't you know Starbucks has more cookies in the back. No reason to believe that mom at Starbucks just didn't share the same view as many of the moms / dads on here.

The chances of this woman having a bad day are one in a million? What planet do you live on? Maybe her house was just foreclosed on or she was told her husband was divorcing her or she lost her job.

One in a million, really?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the employees weren't concerned, why were you OP?

Maybe the employees knew the cookies were stale would be thrown out soon? Maybe they didn't care?

You do realize that Starbucks has plenty of other cookies in stock to replace the smashed ones, right? Its not as if they are some rare product never to be replaced or that they stock a 100 of them out at one time...

I know, seriously. It's not like starbucks is some struggling local startup kind of place. I actually used to work at starbucks, and the volume of food items that we threw out every evening was astounding. There is lots and lots and lots of cushion there.

You both are fucking ignorant. I managed a restaurant that put fresh baked cookies out. I'd have been pissed if a child had gotten their hands on them and crushed them because Mom is too busy ignoring bad behavior. Every Sunday I counted every single cookie made or frozen and put it into inventory. Then I'd have to go over discrepancies between different weeks with how much was ordered and why I'm short. Telling my owner that "some kid destroyed them" doesn't help my case for why I'm short, but I'm really not supposed to say anything to the mother about it. I still did occasionally when the children were being absolutely heinous, but I could've gotten in a lot of trouble for even saying what OP did.

Starbucks is a meat market compared to a lowly restaurant. Apples & oranges.

And you are a potty mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ladies & Gents:

My oldest works at Starbucks. He just informed me that not only do they not care if the kids come in and crush cookies but they crush the cookies themselves so they can put new stock out.

It is totally unfavorable behavior, I say "unfavorable" because we really have no way of knowing if the child was being "bad" or if his father just died and mom was "zoned" out, if he was "special needs", if mom didn't notice or what the story was.

All the left over foods go home with the workers at night, including most of the packaged cookies. Starbucks is still turning a HUGE profit on your $4.99 grande cups of COFFEE. A pack of crushed cookies isn't going to kill their profit. And again, NOT ACCEPTABLE, but really OP, not your battle to be fighting.

Your kid is 13 months, just wait 6 months before you judge the wild boy crushing cookies. You'll get yours when your little angel tosses her food at you from across the table at your favorite restaurant and you can't calm her, it's not always about how you parent, it's about temperament and personality as well. You'll find this out in due time.

Lady you are nuts. I've followed you posts and you miss the mark by a mile and I'm not going to bother to point it out because you are just too damn dense.

I have 3 boys, no longer babies. I have one with a rebellious temperament. However I don't let him run wild and make excuses about his personality. I keep him on a short leash and correct his behavior when he gets out of control. Sure, he has caused scenes, but I don't ignore it. I'm guessing the OP is not an excuse maker like many of you and when her children misbehave she will correct it.

this is not about cookies, temperment, or a mom having a bad day. This is about poor parenting.

You've followed my posts? Which are mine because I'm new to this thread and I'd love to hear which posts you think are mine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

I didn't want to get into details but here we go...

She was holding SEVERAL bags with all sorts of fancy brands stamped on them. She was clearly shopping all day long and the kid was BORED. It was a 5 or so yo child and he was tall enough to reach into the little basket and squish one by one and put them back.

I called the mother out when she was about to walk away and the boy finished breaking the 4th cookie.

She was not having a bad day, he was not special needs.

She was pretending she didn't see and he was a spoiled brat.

When a saw her husband then I really understood what kind of person she was. And I can only see where this 5yo will end...

The irony is we all see what type of person you are, OP. You seem to be an entitled jusdge bitch.

[Anonymous]

09:05 you're not stupid. You're entitled to your opinion like everybody else.

There are all kinds of people on the loose in this world. I've been embarrassed by ppl I love and honestly it doesn't make me love them less.

Some people avoid conflict others face it. We know each other and it's pretty predictable by now who will do what between us.

My attitude was not worth any praise but someone had to say something to this woman.

DCUM are know for being on the MYOB side. I'm not that kind of person and I'm not ashamed of it. OTOH, that woman will be pointed out and embarrassed by her son forever if she doesn't take any action.

[Anonymous]

and I don't care, honey.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here.

I didn't want to get into details but here we go...

She was holding SEVERAL bags with all sorts of fancy brands stamped on them. She was clearly shopping all day long and the kid was BORED. It was a 5 or so yo child and he was tall enough to reach into the little basket and squish one by one and put them back.

I called the mother out when she was about to walk away and the boy finished breaking the 4th cookie.

She was not having a bad day, he was not special needs.

She was pretending she didn't see and he was a spoiled brat.

When a saw her husband then I really understood what kind of person she was. And I can only see where this 5yo will end...

The irony is we all see what type of person you are, OP. You seem to be an entitled jusdge bitch.

[Anonymous]

And very few of you answered my original question..

What would you have done if you saw the boy doing it?

What would you have done if it was your child crushing the cookies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And very few of you answered my original question..

What would you have done if you saw the boy doing it?

What would you have done if it was your child crushing the cookies?

I probably would have said nothing if it were someone else's child. I would have left that up to the employees. If it were my child or grandchild, I would have leaned down to his/her ear, softly said that we don't do that with cookies (or whatever the product) in a store, and I would have paid for any/all that were crumbled. I would not have just ignored.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't have let my child crush the cookies, but if I did space out for some weird reason and not notice my kid crushing ALL the cookies, I would have offered to pay for them. If I had noticed someone else's kid doing it and they weren't paying attention, I probably would have tried to move the cookies back on the counter, or ask the kid why he was doing it, to distract him from doing it. Depending on the situation I may have gotten the woman's attention politely and pointed out what was happening and said something like "I guess he wants you to buy all those", like I was joking. If she didn't do anything after that, I would let it go. I wouldn't have done what the OP did.

[Anonymous]

Me Cookie Monster. Me love cookies. Mommies yell at each other on E Street and on computer. About cookies. E Street sound like scary place. Me stay on Sesame Street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I probably would've said something too---like hey kid, quit doing that. I never bother with oblivious parents, but most children respond to a firm tone and command---especially if they haven't ever had an adult in charge in their lives before.....

I don't care what my child was doing (FWIW It doesn't matter too much as my child does have more discipline than this) but if a stranger scolded my child I would be furious.

why? it takes a village to raise a child, especially if the parent isn't doing her job.

[Anonymous]

NP here. I have read through all of the posts and am both surprised and confused that so many are angry with the OP. Before I get flamed ( and I know I will, so I'm bracing for it) please just let me finish and read on, before you stop here and just start flaming.

I have two sons (3 and 5), do I've been through my fair share of tough days, just as so many of you have, and know all about having to teach children to keep little hands to themselves. I know about being cranky myself, about being preoccupied and o standings, and I know about having my DS be cranky, tired, and a handful (often those things overlap). None of that has ever observed me of having to keep an eye on one (or now both) of my children. I really dislike it intensely when I am sitting in a restaurant (and yes, I take my children out to eat) and children are RUNNING around the tables. It gives me indigestion. My sons sit at the table, quietly, until it is time to leave. Why? Because we have TRAINED them to behave that way. No whips and chains or leg irons. We just worked at it. And other parents just look at their charging 5 and 6 and 7 year olds who knock into our table (last week spilling my son's water glass into his lap) and shrug and tell me how "lucky" I am. No. I'm not "lucky". It wasn't any EASIER for me to stop MY child from crushing cookies in Starbucks than it was for YOU, I just DID it. I didn't make EXCUSES and I didn't make excuses for other parents either. We need to hold people accountable. The OP isn't being a witch.

[Anonymous]

Observed=obsolved. Sorry!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. I have read through all of the posts and am both surprised and confused that so many are angry with the OP. Before I get flamed ( and I know I will, so I'm bracing for it) please just let me finish and read on, before you stop here and just start flaming.

I have two sons (3 and 5), do I've been through my fair share of tough days, just as so many of you have, and know all about having to teach children to keep little hands to themselves. I know about being cranky myself, about being preoccupied and o standings, and I know about having my DS be cranky, tired, and a handful (often those things overlap). None of that has ever observed me of having to keep an eye on one (or now both) of my children. I really dislike it intensely when I am sitting in a restaurant (and yes, I take my children out to eat) and children are RUNNING around the tables. It gives me indigestion. My sons sit at the table, quietly, until it is time to leave. Why? Because we have TRAINED them to behave that way. No whips and chains or leg irons. We just worked at it. And other parents just look at their charging 5 and 6 and 7 year olds who knock into our table (last week spilling my son's water glass into his lap) and shrug and tell me how "lucky" I am. No. I'm not "lucky". It wasn't any EASIER for me to stop MY child from crushing cookies in Starbucks than it was for YOU, I just DID it. I didn't make EXCUSES and I didn't make excuses for other parents either. We need to hold people accountable. The OP isn't being a witch. [/quote

God, why is this so hard to understand? There is a gentle and discreet way to intervene, and a rude, bitchy, passive aggressive, obnoxious way to intervene. The OP chose the latter, and then went on her holier-than-thou tirade on DCUM. Is it really "surprising and confusing" that people would take issue with that? Or is there no decency and kindness left in society?

Everyone who is defending the OP always jumps in with their "I work so hard at parenting" story. Okay, okay, we get it. You are all great mothers! Non-smushed cookies for all of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NP here. I have read through all of the posts and am both surprised and confused that so many are angry with the OP. Before I get flamed ( and I know I will, so I'm bracing for it) please just let me finish and read on, before you stop here and just start flaming.

I have two sons (3 and 5), do I've been through my fair share of tough days, just as so many of you have, and know all about having to teach children to keep little hands to themselves. I know about being cranky myself, about being preoccupied and o standings, and I know about having my DS be cranky, tired, and a handful (often those things overlap). None of that has ever observed me of having to keep an eye on one (or now both) of my children. I really dislike it intensely when I am sitting in a restaurant (and yes, I take my children out to eat) and children are RUNNING around the tables. It gives me indigestion. My sons sit at the table, quietly, until it is time to leave. Why? Because we have TRAINED them to behave that way. No whips and chains or leg irons. We just worked at it. And other parents just look at their charging 5 and 6 and 7 year olds who knock into our table (last week spilling my son's water glass into his lap) and shrug and tell me how "lucky" I am. No. I'm not "lucky". It wasn't any EASIER for me to stop MY child from crushing cookies in Starbucks than it was for YOU, I just DID it. I didn't make EXCUSES and I didn't make excuses for other parents either. We need to hold people accountable. The OP isn't being a witch.

I know you think you've trained your child and it is through hard work that he sits at a table, and that is probably partially true. However, AS A FORMER KINDERGARTEN TEACHER (sorry I had to put that in caps, as to offend someone that apparently finds that phrase annoying) I know that when I trained a classroom full of children to walk in a straight line (or whatever), there were always 2 or 3 that seemed incapable of doing it, despite the positive reinforcement, negative consequences, etc. that worked like a charm with the others. Some kids have trouble with impulse control, some are not developmentally ready to perform the task at hand. Some of these kids had troubled parents, and some had stellar parents with perfectly behaved older siblings. Despite my "training" and hard work, some kids are more difficult than others to manage. I'm sorry that this is so hard for some to grasp!