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They are not secret thoughts. There are plenty of interviews with Israeli Arabs if you care to see them online or speak to them in real life. Which you don't. |
| And some of us are speaking from personal experience. What makes you think there are no Palestinians or even what you like to call “Israeli Arabs” (Palestinians who happen to be Israeli citizens now) on this site. Palestinians are real people whom we can all speak with with and learn their story. They are not political pawns whose narrative gets to be decided by Israeli Jews. |
There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. There are 15 million Jews if we are lucky. 20% of Israel’s population is Arab. There are more Muslims living IN Tel Aviv than there are Jews living in the entire Arab world. You’re saying that the Arab Israeli Knesset members live in fear? A Muslim judge was on the panel that eventually sent PM Olmert to prison. |
You’re Palestinian writing as we speak from Gaza or the West Bank? Or are you an Israeli Arab writing freely criticizing your own government? I can’t argue with someone about how they “feel” but I’m happy to hear about your family’s history and why you are comfortable presenting the entire Arab Israeli sentiment as your own. |
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What, are you trying to dox or threaten this person by asking them where they are from and where they reside now? It only takes a minute for the pro-Israeli side to decide to become menacing.
This person, wherever they are, has the right to their own narrative. We don’t need the Israeli propaganda narrative shoved down our throats about how good the minorities have it in Israel and how awful it is elsewhere for minorities, especially when a genocide is being enacted on Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank and Israelis use “whataboutism” and Islamophobic and anti-Arab tropes to try to distract from the egregious war crimes they are committing daily. |
It is not about "needing" or shoving anything down throats, it is just that people disagree with you and think that what you are saying is incorrect. Just because you are very angry and passionate doesn't mean that you are right. It is possible that you are wrong about things. |
All of them feel this way? Each and every one of them? |
If you are not shoving it down our throats, then please let the pro-Palestinian students have the right to protest, please allow Middle Eastern studies departments to teach as they wish, please register AIPAC as a foreign lobby group, and please please please don’t take our U.S. taxpayer money to commit war crimes. |
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What about all the Israeli flags on campus. If you are Palestinian, Muslim, Lebanese, Syrian, Egyptian, American, etc that flag is seen as a symbol of oppression, apartheid and genocide.
Surely that makes many students uncomfortable, afraid and terrified. Why does only one religion enjoy the protection and promotion of the US government over all others? |
No one has to do any of this just because you say so. What, you think that you can use rherotical traps to back people into doing what you want? |
Maybe just try not to think about Israel and Jews just for a few minutes. Christians don't talk about Jews or Muslims all the time, Jews don't talk about Christians or Muslims all the time, but all Muslims talk about all the time is the Jews are doing this Israel is doing this look look look at what they are doing now, and then demanding that the rest of us are supposed to take an action that they are cleverly not vocalizing, but want us to figure out for ourselves. Just leave the rest of us out of it, do what you want to Jews and Israel, and see how it goes. |
Judge Dismisses Harvard Antisemitism Lawsuit by a Former Student 12/4/25 Two protesters in the encounter with Mr. Segev were charged with misdemeanor assault and a hate crimes violation, though the charges were later dropped. In his ruling, Judge Stearns wrote that “while the court does not condone an assault on a fellow student by campus protesters,” nothing in Mr. Segev’s complaint “plausibly supports the notion that his assailants’ conduct was motivated by race-based antisemitism.” |
The pro-Israeli side is aiming to have a chokehold grasp on our universities, media and on U.S. politics and then acting like they are doing nothing. I am going to leave this conversation after this since it looks like I am arguing with committed Zionists, which always goes nowhere. But for the rest of you, be very aware. Our politicians, universities and mainstream media have immense financial and lobby pressure to back Israel. You will not often find the voices of Palestinians, or Arabs, or Muslims in mainstream media. In the coming months, there will be more demonization of these communities as Israel becomes more and more desperate to control the narrative. Already the Ellison family, who are the largest financial backers of Friends of the Israeli Defense Forces, are buying CBS and Tik Tok and installing pro Israel narratives there. Don’t trust the mainstream media as your only source on the Israel or Middle East issue. There are daily atrocities and war crimes in the West Bank and Gaza, paid for by our tax dollars, that we don’t see in mainstream media. Seek out alternative sources, especially news and stories from Palestinians. Arabs and Muslims for a better perspective. Learn about AIPAC and Israeli lobby influence on US politics. Meet Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims in person. There are so many of them in America and they are the kindest people! Don’t let media or pro-Israeli or right wing fear mongering define what you think of Palestinians, Arabs or Muslims. Let them tell their own stories and listen to them. |
You are telling us who not to trust, but why do we need to trust you? |
Why do we need to let Iran shape our worldview? |